Chrissy Teigen surrogacy

[HermioneKipper]

Just announced a 4th baby via a surrogate.

Its just so breathtakingly entitled to buy a woman’s body - especially when you already have 3 children?!

No regard for the safety of the surrogate’s body or thought for the baby who would be ripped from their mother at birth.

These people sicken me

Yes I’m sure the baby is going to be loved and have every opportunity in life.
But how will he/she feel when they realise that their birth mother literally sold them?

Maybe I need more educating so what is the problem if all parties involved are happy to go through the surrogacy journey? I 1000% agree if the surrogate is doing it out of desperation for money etc I really do not agree with that but I know a couple who had twins via surrogacy their surrogate was so happy to do this for them and says it’s the best gift she’s ever gave anyone and the couple have 2 beautiful babies so why is that a bad thing? Not trying to be funny what I maybe need more educating x

It’s documented that babies recognise their mothers in the womb and removing a baby from their mother at birth can cause all sorts of attachment issues

I always wanted 4 children. I have a diary from when I was 6 where I drew my 4 children. I had HG thou, and was very very ill, so I do not have 4 children and am so happy to have 2 healthy ones. She is a selfish narcissistic woman and her husband is the same. Gross.

I'm morally against surrogacy. I think it's disgusting tbh. When I read about Chrissy and John I was further disgusted.

I have every sympathy for what they went through with the loss of their baby last year. I can't even imagine it. But I have experienced years of infertility so I do understand the yearning. However it doesn't excuse them paying someone else to have a baby- when they just had another one themselves. There only a few months between babies.

It's like they're trying to create this 'perfect' family Chrissy said she dreamed off as a child. 2 girls and 2 boys. So many other issues in terms of this baby boy being the only one on the family not having been carried by Chrissy- how will he feel about that? Will he feel like a replacement for Jack.

Also the surrogate. Who knows what her thinking was/is. She was probably well compensated though and now she has rich celebs friends for life woohoo.

How do you plan to check whether the baby is OK with going through the surrogacy journey?

Adoption is child focused and surrogacy is about what adults want
It’s so spot on @MrsPelligrinoPetrichor

we should start MN dictionary and your description of surrogacy should go straight into it.

@Fairyliz and their other mother bought them

Adoption used to be all about the childless couple becoming a family, no thought about the birth mother or adopted child. Now the main priority is the child and recognition that they may have issues with being adopted. Egg and sperm donation rules have also changed as recognition that child gave a right to their genetic history.

Surrogacy has a feel of how adoption used to be, and it feels as if we are going backwards.

The problem isn't so much for the surrogate having the baby ripped away from her, it's for the baby being ripped away from his or her mother.

I listened to this the other day: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n1s4

It's about organ trafficking. In the programme, they're very clear that however much someone says they consent to selling their organ, they cannot truly consent because there is always exploitation involved. Organ tourism was banned in the U.K. in 2022.

Surrogacy is just the same. Buying and selling babies is immoral and always exploitative.

If poorer people can't sell a kidney to a dying rich person then surrogacy shouldn't be allowed either. Having had 2 kids and a couple of miscarriages I would far rather donate a kidney than go through a pregnancy as it would be less physically/mentally traumatic.

The only person I would be a surrogate for is my sister (there a few people to whom I would donate a kidney!), altruistic surrogacy is fine and I think this country broadly gets it right with just expenses but if it's commercial and the buyer is significantly wealthier than the surrogate then nope it's exploitation

Paid to though

@MargotBamborough to be fair I didn’t ask my son wether he was happy to be conceived either lol

In what way specifically is adoption child focused while surrogacy is what the adult wants?

Person A has a baby and gives it up because they don’t want it, couple B want a child… it’s the same in both cases.

In many cases the adoptive parents pick through a brochure of the biological mother and potential child. It’s not this 100% altruistic thing.

I wouldn't necessarily trust women on TikTok saying they enjoy being surrogates. If they're desperate and there's a financial motivation that's exactly what they would say. You see the same thing with sex workers. In some cases the men exploiting them probably force them to do it.

In any case it's harmful to the baby.

You cannot see a difference between giving a child who already exists a home and having one made to order @Sissynova?

I actually rather liked being pregnant and would consider doing it for someone I really loved but I don't think it's legal where I live and even if it were, I've had five miscarriages so I'm not sure anyone would want to put their precious embryo in my uterus anyway!

Did you read her statement on it?

She said about being very careful with her surrogate, that the first transfer failed, they were with her all the way, looks like she practically moved in.

Ladies who sign up as surrogates do so knowing what they are getting into and set their price.

I think you're being very unfair here, for starters they explored this after the death of their son

Adoption is child focused and surrogacy is about what adults want.
100%

@Sissynova the child will come first though. The adoptive parents go through rigorous process and will be given guidance on attachment issues. The child has a right to know who their birth parents are. The adoption agency/social workers etc match the parents

Very easy to judge unless you have had a miscarriage or stillbirth

I have great sympathy for women in that situation, however that doesn't justify or excuse exploiting another woman's body.

Yes. The stillbirth must have been absolutely awful.

Which makes it hard to justify why she'd inflict that potential scenario on another woman when she has three lovely children.

@MargotBamborough the only case I know of personally, the surrogate remains in contact with the parents and is part of the children's life and I guess could be likened to open adoption

I believe the kids are fully aware they grew in the surrogate and she gave birth to them

I don't know how it worked at the time, I didn't know them then but my perception was that she'd have been around them as a baby frequently like she still is now

They all seem really happy 🤷‍♀️

They already have three lovely children though. They didn't need to do this. I can't imagine what they went through with the loss of their son and I can imagine having a powerful need to have another child after going through that. But they did have another child after going through that. One who is currently only five months old. Shouldn't that be enough for any family?

I also wanted 4. For many reasons but also have HG.
(30 weeks into 4th pregnancy, with HG again!) And I've had friends who've offered to be a surrogate for me. (The HG has me in hosptial so much it really does need lots of planning.) But I couldn't put a baby or other woman through that, I'd rather stop with the children I had or just do the prep to ensure I've got 9 months in a dark room/hosptial and the kids are all prepared etc. My 7 year old comes and sits with me after school and we count the days until I'm all better and there's a baby, so he is super excited for both.
HG is a fucker. I'm so sorry you have had it ruin pregnancy for you x