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To think that social standing affects the desire to associate with strangers?

165 replies

LazyJack · 27/06/2023 19:36

I am in a very popular tourist and sailing destination. I’ve been sitting enjoying a glass of wine in the harbour and listening to a conversation unfolding on a bench on the quayside. The participants did not stop talking at eachother for around an hour and had never met prior to them sharing a bench overlooking the harbour. It led me to wondering whether your upbringing/‘class’ makes you more or less inclined to find common ground with strangers.

I am middle class, and am disinterested in any opinions on this - I can’t help my upbringing or my life. It is what it is. I will not enter into protracted conversation with strangers - I’ll exchange pleasantries and carry on with my day. I’m not interested in whether they thought their pudding in the pub down the road was overpriced or which day is bin day in Sutton Coldfield. Yet these strangers managed to prattle on for a full hour about completely inconsequential dross - they were incredibly loud so it was difficult to ignore, and they were quite close.

So; if you’re working class, do you try harder to find common ground with people? Do you try hard to be friendly? Why?

OP posts:
Saschka · 27/06/2023 22:12

The most garrulous bores I’ve ever had inflicted on me were middle class middle aged men, who loved the sound of their own voices a bit too much. Sutton Coldfield bin day would have been a blessed relief in comparison with “a long reminiscence with no apparent point, about former colleagues you’ll never meet”.

StormShadow · 27/06/2023 22:14

Is this not about region more than class?

Screamingabdabz · 27/06/2023 22:16

Saschka · 27/06/2023 22:12

The most garrulous bores I’ve ever had inflicted on me were middle class middle aged men, who loved the sound of their own voices a bit too much. Sutton Coldfield bin day would have been a blessed relief in comparison with “a long reminiscence with no apparent point, about former colleagues you’ll never meet”.

Oh God yes. Middle aged MC men - or pompous arses as I call them. Insufferable.

FKATondelayo · 27/06/2023 22:16

OP is definitely in Salcombe and annoyed that Brummies are allowed in.

FKATondelayo · 27/06/2023 22:18

Saschka · 27/06/2023 22:12

The most garrulous bores I’ve ever had inflicted on me were middle class middle aged men, who loved the sound of their own voices a bit too much. Sutton Coldfield bin day would have been a blessed relief in comparison with “a long reminiscence with no apparent point, about former colleagues you’ll never meet”.

100%.

No Matt, I don't give a fuck why you think Brexit is ghastly or what your loft conversion plans are.

Cakeorchocolate · 27/06/2023 22:20

I'd say it has everything to do with personality and little to do with class.

I'm working class and avoid socialising as much as possible.

My dad is working class and can talk to anyone he comes across.

Landndialamrhf · 27/06/2023 22:22

I can’t help my upbringing or my life
you can try not to be an aggy snob though

nameschangg · 27/06/2023 22:23

Ime it's the middle classes who are always trying to chat particularly at the school gates. I just think they are nosy or trying to show off. I'm upper class & don't talk to anyone outside my circle. Even with my staff, some of whom who have been working for me for years I don't exchange anything more than a few pleasantries.

Butchyrestingface · 27/06/2023 22:28

Maybe they're just a bit less evolved than you, OP, floating up there majestically on your puffy white, bin-free cloud, a thousand leagues above the mundane cares of the madding crowd back in Sutton Coldfield.

JudgeRudy · 27/06/2023 22:34

I'm baffled why you thought this interaction was related to 'class'. I'm not so daft to think there aren't topics that might be more closely associated with one class, eg I'm working class and would be unlikely to be discussing polo or tuition fees. But subjects like the weather, what happened to the lost submarine or train strikes are pretty class neutral, as I feel is the 'dross' you mentioned.
Some people are more extroverted, some less so.
Genuinely, what makes you think talking 'twaddle' (loudly) is something working class people actively try to engage in? How is it different to for example, the business man on the train berating the service he's recieved after hes paid X much his season ticket?

Mapletreelane · 27/06/2023 22:51

I think OP is a troll or a trash journo looking for a story as they've not come back and the post sounds a bit dodgy and goady.

Where are you @LazyJack

Nooneknowswhatgoesonbehindcloseddoors · 27/06/2023 23:47

nameschangg · 27/06/2023 22:23

Ime it's the middle classes who are always trying to chat particularly at the school gates. I just think they are nosy or trying to show off. I'm upper class & don't talk to anyone outside my circle. Even with my staff, some of whom who have been working for me for years I don't exchange anything more than a few pleasantries.

Hahahahahahaha! hahahahahahahaha! hahahahahahahah!

Malarandras · 27/06/2023 23:58

This is a personality thing not a class thing. On paper I’m very middle class yet I’d quite happily go weeks at a time not speaking to anyone other than my immediate family.

J0S · 28/06/2023 00:00

If the OP was middle class she would know that the word she should I have used in her first post is “ uninterested “ not “ disinterested”.

Uninterested means a lack of interest.

Disinterested means impartial or unbiased.

LaSalleRoom · 28/06/2023 00:03

I think it’s a confidence thing maybe. Confident people talk more to strangers I find.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 28/06/2023 00:17

It's not a class thing, it's a personality type

UsingChangeofName · 28/06/2023 00:24

YABU.
Nothing to do with class and everything to do with personality.

Theoldgreygoose · 28/06/2023 01:07

I'm in NZ so don't consider myself of any class, but I am happy to talk to complete strangers about things. I am a receptionist, so I am used to doing this, but even when I was quite young I would talk to anyone who talked to me - and I am far from being extrovert, I just enjoy talking!

cassiatwenty · 28/06/2023 01:09

Mapletreelane · 27/06/2023 19:45

Are you Hyacinth Bucket OP?

Grin
Sheranovermytoes · 28/06/2023 04:21

I've heard it all now.

CanIBlameEricaJong · 28/06/2023 05:38

I think that Upper class are the worst for small talk - "do you know Flimbim, I was at school with Mitsy, you must eat at Enrichos" etc- style nonsense. Put any two UC Brits in the same corner of a country and they will find each other and bore the life out of anyone around trying to "place" each other. WC/MC - amateurs by comparison.

I'm MC and would talk to anyone (though not - perhaps - the OP).

Mercurial123 · 28/06/2023 06:44

When you think that every inane MC situation has been covered, some idiot finds another one to discuss.

JimmyHalpert · 28/06/2023 06:48

Clearly being a rude snob is a middle class trait.

Sigmama · 28/06/2023 06:57

It's all about personality and curcumstance. Those 2 people may have been incredibly lonely and it was the first conversation they with another human being for ages. Describing it as 'prattle' makes you sound like an insufferable snob. Would it have been better if they were discussing politics or art?

Sigmama · 28/06/2023 06:57

*circumstance

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