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To be quite rude to kids wanting to engage with me?

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Brieandcran · 27/06/2023 13:04

I know - I sound like a really horrible person here and maybe I am, but I’m wondering about this.

It feels like nearly every time I take my very young children to a park or soft play someone else’s child or children latches onto us and it’s really irritating. Today I was at the playground in the morning and two little boys were there and would not stop trying to get my attention. I was saying to my eldest that a piece of equipment was for bigger children and these two kids were shouting across me that no it wasn’t, they went on it, watch, watch. I ignored at first but ended up saying something like ‘thank you but I need to focus on my own children.’ Then ‘where is your mummy or daddy?’ But they just carried on.

I also had it at soft play (with a different family) where someone actually had a go at ME for their misbehaviour and I had to quite sharply say they weren’t my kids!

I don’t want to be unpleasant about it but when they don’t listen to not now, go and find your mummy or whatever - what the hell do you do? I really want to be playing with my own children not someone else’s!

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Frazzledmum123 · 28/06/2023 10:59

@MiddleParking Yeah I get you point, I'm thinking of our specific local one though where there is an area for climbing, swings, general large soft things to fall on/climb over but then an area with proper toys too which my daughter always liked and where we could play together but with different toys to what we had at home. But even in the more traditional ones a parent should always be watching, even periodically so that of a child is non stop bothering someone then you intervene. Saying the odd thing to you if fine but the OP is talking about kids who just won't leave you alone. I don't think any setting excuses that. And I think if a parent closes to be with their child for whatever reason, they shouldn't have to end up parenting someone else child. It's not bothering anyone for you to go and hover over your child (unless you are physically in the way) but it is bothering people to allow your teaching them to be independent to affect those around you. IMO anyway

EarringsandLipstick · 28/06/2023 11:10

Cotonsugar · 28/06/2023 10:32

A cold stare and not replying usually works☺️

Horrible to do that to a child - would you really ignore them and give them a cold stare?!!

Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 11:19

DataNotLore · 28/06/2023 10:00

@Brieandcran

If an another parent started to make conversation with you, say a comment about the weather, would you tell them to go away?

It is interesting because there have been times when another adult has done something similar and it is hard to deal with. I had this at the airport once when someone tried to engage me in conversation about where I was travelling to, he was off to visit family and clearly wanting to share his excitement, but I wasn’t there for a happy reason and I really wanted to be left alone. I think generally most - not all - adults will recognise when someone is responding politely but not wanting to chat.

The difference with children is that they don’t have these social cues as a rule and will demand attention in ways that are overt and difficult to ignore. So on one occasion I remember, one little girl kept trying to lift my toddler up and I kept having to tell her to stop. I did it in a ‘nice’ way - ‘she’s not old enough, she doesn’t enjoy that love’ but where an adult would take the hint kids don’t. Then she started asking for some blueberries DD was eating - okay, but then rifling through our bag looking for more. Told her to stop because you can’t ignore that but it does mean you’re sort of ‘parenting’ someone else’s child and when your own take every ounce of energy from your soul some days, it’s a more saintly person than me who would not get fed up of it. And from the voting I think most people agree.

@Goldbar i hesitated before saying this but before this thread I thought you were one of MNs more sensible posters. It’s a shame in some ways because Lord knows we need them.

It is one thing someone saying I think YABU. OK - it’s hard not to feel something when you feel it but I get not everyone sees the world in the same way. What is nearly as wearing as random kids is when posters decide something is happening and keep on and on and on saying that it did despite being told over and over it did not.

You have said:

I find adults shadowing tiny children really irritating when they clog up the soft play. Get out of the older kids section and leave it for, well, the older kids

At no point had I indicated this happened. It didn’t. I have told you it didn’t.

The best thing you can do is take your squashable tinies and find somewhere more suitable for them. Most soft plays have an age-appropriate section for tiny children (the under-5s section).

Yes. This is where we always are. You’ve been told this.

If you're not in the soft play structure making an exhibition of yourself, you won't attract other people's children like flies

Deliberately trying to make out your own version of events so you can get an insult in.

If they're in the little kids section, you tell them to get out and if they don't, you ask staff/parents to intervene

So you finally concede we are doing nothing wrong, although interestingly you still insist that my job is to sort other children as well as supervising my own, and the parents are doing nothing wrong but OK.

Then you say

Far from moaning at other people's children, we should be trying to stay out of their way as much as possible and apologising for our presence. Because having adults impose themselves in children's play spaces changes the dynamic for all the children using them.

Again, your language here is purposeful so I’ll respond with like - any adult apologising to children for pushing a toddler on a swing is quite frankly madder than a box of frogs.

if they turn up at the playground and there's another parent there drawing a crowd with bubbles/their monster impression/pretending to be a snorting pig, what do you expect them to do?

You have been told over and over this is not what happens, what we are posting about. No one is pretending to be a snorting pig (funny choice that) I am pushing my child on a swing, or steadying a wobbly just-walker on a rocker, or similar. There are quite a few parents on this thread saying this happened to them when swimming, I’m sure you’ll decide they were doing a Shamu impersonation but I am fairly certain they were swimming.

YABU is one thing. YABU because of my fictitious version of events I’m going to keep on and on repeating is really exhausting and so dull. Please pack it in.

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GGee123 · 28/06/2023 11:47

Probationnotontarget · 28/06/2023 06:55

He's now a very confident, self assured 9 year old who still loves chatting to everyone he meets!

So you’ve still not told him his confidence isn’t welcome? You’ve raised a rude child

Haha that literally made me laugh out loud! Crazy how literally anything on here can be twisted.

I (at least hope!) am self aware enough to read people's reaction to him & his attentions have only ever been warmly received. Trust me, I would soon intervene if that was not the case. He's not rude or pushy, he's just a normal, well balanced confident child - tbh I wish I had his confidence then & now!!

Coffeelotsofcoffee · 28/06/2023 12:13

I dunno I find this weird.
Also your not really facilitating friendships for your children if u have this attitude.why not just be friendly?

Also on a broader level there seems to be soo many child hating threads on mumsnet .
Just find the whole thing odd. Sorry.

MyNDfamily · 28/06/2023 12:27

One piece of advice. Your kids are watching you, and they learn so much from us. Becareful you don't teach your children to be unfriendly. I'm autistic and I'm very aware of my social interactions in front of my children. I have to model how to behave with others so they can learn. Just try to be polite and say goodbye if you don't want to engage. I don't know how old your DC are but when they go to school they will want to make friends and need to know how. My kids struggle more due to having an autism mother, so this is a thing if that makes sense. I am not trytto be rude or mean in my post. Just offer advice.

QueenoftheNimbleFlyingCat · 28/06/2023 12:39

mainsfed · 28/06/2023 10:12

But that part of the day is when the parent needs to be engaged the most because their child's behaviour is impacting someone who is just trying to do her job.

The parent can be glued to their phone when it doesn't affect someone else.

It's ironic that you're talking to me about basic manners when you're letting your kids be rude to check out staff.

When have I said I allowed my kids to be rude?

mewkins · 28/06/2023 12:45

Coffeelotsofcoffee · 28/06/2023 12:13

I dunno I find this weird.
Also your not really facilitating friendships for your children if u have this attitude.why not just be friendly?

Also on a broader level there seems to be soo many child hating threads on mumsnet .
Just find the whole thing odd. Sorry.

Weird considering it was once a very child centred forum and mainly about parenting advice.

I don't understand why you'd go to a soft play or a park with a little one if you didn't want any engagement from other kids. You are literally in a space which exists for them. If you just want to play with your child on their own, set up a swing and ball pool in your own garden.

ChocChipHandbag · 28/06/2023 12:50

mewkins · 28/06/2023 12:45

Weird considering it was once a very child centred forum and mainly about parenting advice.

I don't understand why you'd go to a soft play or a park with a little one if you didn't want any engagement from other kids. You are literally in a space which exists for them. If you just want to play with your child on their own, set up a swing and ball pool in your own garden.

I must have missed the memo that said anyone who is a parent has to “love kids” in general.

I love my own child. Other people’s I can very much take or leave. My DH is the same. I think we still qualify as parents who are allowed to seek and give advice on a forum don’t we?

Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 12:53

Going to a park or soft play is not for my benefit (trust me!) it is for my own children.

Does anyone actually go to soft play, not for their children, but so they can interact with random kids? That would be a tad unusual I would say.

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GreenNoel94 · 28/06/2023 12:53

It does happen but I don’t see it as a big deal. Do you only have one young child op?
I’ve caught my eldest talking to another adult in the play ground while I was hovering over my youngest, I apologised and reminded her not to talk to strangers but when you have more than one child and there’s a big age gap then it’s hard to play with both at the same time, it’s not like my 9 year old is going to stick by the baby swings and slides. I also get a lot of children that stick to us, ds has a speech delay and we were taught to speak clearly and more animated and I think other children are drawn to this. They usually just play with the kids or say “look at me” and I go “wow good job” or something similar and that’s it, no big deal I certainly wouldn’t stop taking my children out because of it. We’re not ready to let dd out unsupervised so we find ourselves having other peoples children over regularly and I also help out in ds class on occasion so I’m used to other peoples kids. It’ll be far easier for your dc to make friends if you’re a bit kinder/warmer to children that aren’t your own.

mewkins · 28/06/2023 12:54

ChocChipHandbag · 28/06/2023 12:50

I must have missed the memo that said anyone who is a parent has to “love kids” in general.

I love my own child. Other people’s I can very much take or leave. My DH is the same. I think we still qualify as parents who are allowed to seek and give advice on a forum don’t we?

You don't have to love kids (apart from your own). But you kind of have to accept that if you go to a place which is designed for children to have fun in, there will be other children there and you can't stop them talking to you. If you don't like other children or older children, go to a special baby and toddler session or don't go at all rather than going, getting pissed off and then being rude to kids.

Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 12:56

I do understand that. I have particular sympathy to parents (usually mothers, let’s face it) who are sat trying to feed a baby while a toddler and older child hare off in different directions.

Like with most things, when you can see someone’s trying you tend to be more patient. It is when it is assumed that you’re fine with it that it is a tad frustrating. As for it not being a big deal - it depends. Sometimes it is a big deal, to be honest.

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Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 12:56

Sorry - above was a reply to @GreenNoel94

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ChocChipHandbag · 28/06/2023 12:57

mewkins · 28/06/2023 12:54

You don't have to love kids (apart from your own). But you kind of have to accept that if you go to a place which is designed for children to have fun in, there will be other children there and you can't stop them talking to you. If you don't like other children or older children, go to a special baby and toddler session or don't go at all rather than going, getting pissed off and then being rude to kids.

Well, if you go on a parenting forum you should accept that they exist for all types of parents, or don’t go on them at all rather than getting pissed off and being rude to posters who love kids less than you do.

Frazzledmum123 · 28/06/2023 12:59

@mewkins Maybe because a park is free and a full set up in your garden isn't? Maybe because soft play is usually in a huge room full of things you couldn't fit in tbe average house? Maybe because you have spent the morning in the garden with a ball already and fancy a change of scenery? Maybe because your house is a tip and if you are at home you would be easily distracted doing chores? Maybe because you have nothing in for lunch and your kids like the food at soft play? I mean it's not hard to imagine that leaving your home does not mean you automatically want to play with other people's kids just because you are taking yours somewhere kid friendly?

mewkins · 28/06/2023 13:02

ChocChipHandbag · 28/06/2023 12:57

Well, if you go on a parenting forum you should accept that they exist for all types of parents, or don’t go on them at all rather than getting pissed off and being rude to posters who love kids less than you do.

How is that being rude? I'm pointing out the obvious- if you're in a space for kids there will be kids around and you definitely won't like how all of them behave.

My kids are way too old for softplay now but everyone knows that you don't go there expecting peace and quiet - if the worst that happens is that a child speaks to you, I'd count it as a win 😄

You can be any type of parent you like and clearly there are all sorts on here.

Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 13:05

Not liking how a kid behaves is one thing, but when that behaviour directly impacts on you it is reasonable to do something about it. This is the problem really, a lot of the time it becomes impossible to ignore.

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mewkins · 28/06/2023 13:05

Frazzledmum123 · 28/06/2023 12:59

@mewkins Maybe because a park is free and a full set up in your garden isn't? Maybe because soft play is usually in a huge room full of things you couldn't fit in tbe average house? Maybe because you have spent the morning in the garden with a ball already and fancy a change of scenery? Maybe because your house is a tip and if you are at home you would be easily distracted doing chores? Maybe because you have nothing in for lunch and your kids like the food at soft play? I mean it's not hard to imagine that leaving your home does not mean you automatically want to play with other people's kids just because you are taking yours somewhere kid friendly?

Yes but there will definitely be other children there and if that's a problem for you then don't go.

MiddleParking · 28/06/2023 13:06

Frazzledmum123 · 28/06/2023 12:59

@mewkins Maybe because a park is free and a full set up in your garden isn't? Maybe because soft play is usually in a huge room full of things you couldn't fit in tbe average house? Maybe because you have spent the morning in the garden with a ball already and fancy a change of scenery? Maybe because your house is a tip and if you are at home you would be easily distracted doing chores? Maybe because you have nothing in for lunch and your kids like the food at soft play? I mean it's not hard to imagine that leaving your home does not mean you automatically want to play with other people's kids just because you are taking yours somewhere kid friendly?

Why do you think parks and soft plays can afford better stuff than you as an individual?

Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 13:07

I am not sure how anyone could extrapolate that some of us have a problem with other children being there from this thread!

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mewkins · 28/06/2023 13:12

Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 13:07

I am not sure how anyone could extrapolate that some of us have a problem with other children being there from this thread!

Your issue is with some (not all) children. If you go somewhere busy with lots of kids there will definitely be a proportion of kids there who won behave as you'd like them too. In a few years when your child is old enough to go off on their own this will take the form of other kids pushing, kicking footballs at or knocking over your own child. You can't control that either unfortunately. So you either accept that this is what happens at soft play or you choose not to go. Both are valid options.

Frazzledmum123 · 28/06/2023 13:12

@mewkins Having other children around isn't a problem for me, entertaining other people's children at the expense of my own is. I've no problem them playing with my child and as I said before I'd back off and leave them to it if this was the case. I've no problem having a 2 minute conversation with them either but like the OP I do have a problem when the child then ignores yours and latches on to you as the parent and won't leave whilst their parent ignores them. I dont think this is something I should have to deal with just because I've taken my child to a place for children?

Brieandcran · 28/06/2023 13:16

@mewkins of course but it doesn’t mean I have to either enjoy it or put up with it. No one is suggesting children spontaneously combust and vanish, but I do think a cursory eye from parents and intervening is reasonable.

I think the comparisons to dogs are valid - some people just object to dogs anywhere but most people aren’t bothered unless the dog starts bothering them.

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