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AIBU not to cancel DD's party despite the house next door being in mourning?

453 replies

Padstow58 · 24/06/2023 11:50

It's my DD's birthday today. 13 and very excited. For weeks she's been planning a party at our house and for 8 girls to sleep over in the tent in our garden. She's decorated our garden and it's all ready.

Next door are a retired couple and a few weeks ago, he was taken into hospital. We've been keeping in touch with the lady neighbour so have been aware that he's not been doing too well.

This morning she let me know he died in the night.

DH now says they are a house of mourning and it would be disrespectful to hold a party next door.

But I think, as sad as it is, that it's not fair to cancel DD's party that she's been planning and looking forward to for so long.

We are detached and I'll make sure they are quiet out there after 10pm so hopefully they won't be disturbed too much by it all.

Does that sound reasonable?

OP posts:
LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:33

bringincrazyback · 24/06/2023 14:29

This is one of the most self-absorbed things I have ever read on Mumsnet. Your 'baby only got one chance of a shower', what does that even mean? This wasn't done for the baby that hadn't even arrived yet, this was about you and what you wanted. The least you could have done was keep your guests' cars out of the mourners' way, and as for a 'visual reminder that life goes on'... words fail me.

The car situation couldn’t be helped to be honest. It’s a main road and a few of our guests had young children with them so couldn’t park further away. It’s very much a first come first served area for parking.

Qilin · 24/06/2023 14:33

pinkhousesarebest · 24/06/2023 12:38

If this was a child who had died, or a young mother, the response would have been entirely different sadly. Yes you should cancel the party. As others have said, life goes on for you and your dcs luckily, and you can easily reschedule.
Am astounded by the lack of empathy ( or breeding) in the responses😮

If it was a child then I think it would be a different situation anyway. The sound of other children having fun would be too close for comfort I suspect. But that isn't the situation here.

bumblefeline · 24/06/2023 14:36

Cancel the party and it's not fair on any of your neighbours on a hot night with windows open to here shrieking coming from your garden.

Youknowaboutthepaint · 24/06/2023 14:36

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:33

The car situation couldn’t be helped to be honest. It’s a main road and a few of our guests had young children with them so couldn’t park further away. It’s very much a first come first served area for parking.

OMG you're making it worse. A short walk with young children trumps people wanting to get into a funeral procession?

On the day of DH's funeral, although the funeral directos said they'd block the road if necessary, the neighbours (I don't know who) had gone out early and put cones out to keep the road clear.

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:37

Qilin · 24/06/2023 14:33

If it was a child then I think it would be a different situation anyway. The sound of other children having fun would be too close for comfort I suspect. But that isn't the situation here.

Definitely if it was a child’s death it would be different. But it wasn’t, it was an elderly man and sadly it was to be expected.

TrueScrumptious · 24/06/2023 14:37

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:33

The car situation couldn’t be helped to be honest. It’s a main road and a few of our guests had young children with them so couldn’t park further away. It’s very much a first come first served area for parking.

Er, of course it could be helped. You tell your guests to park further away, small children or not.

SlippySarah · 24/06/2023 14:37

The UK is much too over cautious and sentimental about death. Life goes on. And I say this as someone who has suffered very significant bereavement of a close family member who died very young. Let your daughter have a good night. Life is too short not to do the thongs that bring you joy.

Qilin · 24/06/2023 14:38

Riapia · 24/06/2023 13:18

Is the party important enough to your DD for her to go and explain to the neighbour why it must go ahead?

You'd really expect a 13y child to be able to do that?

TrueScrumptious · 24/06/2023 14:39

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:37

Definitely if it was a child’s death it would be different. But it wasn’t, it was an elderly man and sadly it was to be expected.

That doesn’t make it different. And if it was expected, you had more time to prepare and warn your guests.

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:39

Youknowaboutthepaint · 24/06/2023 14:36

OMG you're making it worse. A short walk with young children trumps people wanting to get into a funeral procession?

On the day of DH's funeral, although the funeral directos said they'd block the road if necessary, the neighbours (I don't know who) had gone out early and put cones out to keep the road clear.

To be fair we didn’t know it was the funeral day until my guests stated to arrive and someone from the house came out asking if they could park somewhere else. As I said my guests physically couldn’t do that but if they could they would have definitely tried to help out

FavouritePlace · 24/06/2023 14:39

You could get her to bring round photo albums and tell stories about her husband, the girls will love that sort of thing especially funny and happy memories.

This can’t be real. Confused

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:40

SlippySarah · 24/06/2023 14:37

The UK is much too over cautious and sentimental about death. Life goes on. And I say this as someone who has suffered very significant bereavement of a close family member who died very young. Let your daughter have a good night. Life is too short not to do the thongs that bring you joy.

THIS!!!!!!!

TrueScrumptious · 24/06/2023 14:41

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:39

To be fair we didn’t know it was the funeral day until my guests stated to arrive and someone from the house came out asking if they could park somewhere else. As I said my guests physically couldn’t do that but if they could they would have definitely tried to help out

Why couldn’t they park somewhere else? This makes no sense. You park further away and walk, small children in tow, or in a pushchair or pram.

Qilin · 24/06/2023 14:41

Youknowaboutthepaint · 24/06/2023 13:22

On the actual day of the death, wouldn't you expect the neighbours to feel a bit sad themselves? When DH died none of our friends and neighbours "went into mourning" but most were shocked and sad, adjusted their normal lives for a few days.

I guess it depends on your local neighbourhood. Many people nearly know their neighbours these days. Many may not even know a neighbour has died.

If it was someone I only knew to say hello to in passing I'd be sad for the family, but my normal day to day life wouldn't be adjusted I don't think. I'd still be going to work, etc.

SeaSaltAir · 24/06/2023 14:42

I hope a 13 year old hosts a party next door to you when your husband dies.

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:42

FavouritePlace · 24/06/2023 14:39

You could get her to bring round photo albums and tell stories about her husband, the girls will love that sort of thing especially funny and happy memories.

This can’t be real. Confused

I was just thinking of ways to help the lady be a part of the party celebration but I did see reading back that her sister is there so it’s not needed anyway and I expect they are having their own night in and plans. Hope your daughter and her friends have a great night OP. Just make sure they keep the noise down after 1am

FavouritePlace · 24/06/2023 14:43

I wouldn’t have wanted a child to change their party plans. Carry on OP.

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 14:43

SeaSaltAir · 24/06/2023 14:42

I hope a 13 year old hosts a party next door to you when your husband dies.

How rude !

Youknowaboutthepaint · 24/06/2023 14:44

Qilin · 24/06/2023 14:41

I guess it depends on your local neighbourhood. Many people nearly know their neighbours these days. Many may not even know a neighbour has died.

If it was someone I only knew to say hello to in passing I'd be sad for the family, but my normal day to day life wouldn't be adjusted I don't think. I'd still be going to work, etc.

But OP clearly does know her neighbour. She knew he was in hospital, the details and progression of his illness and his widow came to tell her of his passing within hours.

mummyh2016 · 24/06/2023 14:44

@LilyTuesday can't stop digging that hole can you Shock

Qilin · 24/06/2023 14:46

What…. The same day? And until the early hours? Doubt it.

My FIL died during covid on a warm day. Even as he was dying - I wasn't there as wasn't allowed but knew he was in his last moments due to contact with Dh at the time - I could hear children playing all around me in their gardens. Whilst telling Dd abd consoling her we could hear children playing football, children running around gardens, adults cutting their lawns or having BBQs. It had absolutely no bearing on me and how I felt, nor for Dd, Dh, MIL or BIL - all returned ti our home when he was gone.

If there was noise all night it would have done, but that would be the case regardless of what had happened tbh.

So I'd say have the party but if they aren't very quiet by 10pm they come indoors to sleep.

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 24/06/2023 14:46

Youknowaboutthepaint · 24/06/2023 14:44

But OP clearly does know her neighbour. She knew he was in hospital, the details and progression of his illness and his widow came to tell her of his passing within hours.

That doesn't mean they're especially close though.

GoodChat · 24/06/2023 14:49

LilyTuesday · 24/06/2023 13:57

I had a baby shower on the day of my neighbours funeral (well they lived directly opposite) the only issue really for them was that they had to walk a little up the road to the funeral cars as my guests had parked along the road and took a lot of the space. As a mark of respect, when they were leaving all the guests at my party went out the front to wave them off. I think it helped them that we provided a visual reminder that life still goes on. My baby shower was over by the time they got back to the house where they had the after party and they were partying themselves long after my guests were! Keep the party OP. Your daughter only gets to turn 13 once. My baby only got once chance of a shower. I was due 3 weeks later. Life goes on 💐

A mark of respect would be to be considerate of the fact there'd be a funeral procession and make space for it - not to wave at the mourners as they trekked to the cars ffs

Youknowaboutthepaint · 24/06/2023 14:50

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 24/06/2023 14:46

That doesn't mean they're especially close though.

I think if they're close enough that the widow came to tell them almost straight away, they're close enough to care enough to move the party indoors as a mark of respect. Or postpone it a week or so if the girls prefer to stick with the original plan.

Pottedpalm · 24/06/2023 14:50

just go round and speak to her while she has family there. She may decide to go and stay elsewhere. The noise might be a welcome distraction and she probably would hate it to be cancelled.

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