There are two sexes…

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Well just that really….I have gay, straight, bi sexual and transsexual friends and absolutely have no problem with that, very much a do what makes you happy person.

Butttt….AIBU to think the world is going a bit mad with all the non-female, cis female and whatever other labels are floating about. I’m a woman and that’s that, you are either biologically a male or biologically a female and I don’t mean that in an insensitive way dress how you like and date who you like but surely we can’t just be inventing different/new sexes and telling straight women they are no longer a woman they are now XYZ?

@Julioop PCOS stands for Poly Cystic Ovary Syndrome I.e. you have to have ovaries to have it.

Funnily enough only females get PCOS. I know, let’s call them women. We can then call all the people who can’t get PCOS non-women. Shocker that means there are just two sexes women and non-women.

I used to have PCOS pre menopause - It is not a DSD.

It won't be long before a man tells us that he has PCOS because he's got too much hair and finds it difficult to conceive.

I'm surprised at how many people think that disorders of sexual development or intersex conditions make a third sex.

I wonder if this misunderstanding has come about by accident? Or is it a result of the 'I' being tacked onto LGBTQIA, and subsequent disinformation campaigns?

Sealions are lions!!

Educate yourself and do better, bigot

On another thread just in the past few days a male person wrote that women were “a constellation of statistically linked elements that together describe something almost intangible and linguistically elusive”

and then added

"I'm an adult human, and I recognise within myself a constellation of data points that I identify as female”.

Do you think that this is something you would agree with to categorise female people?

Because you don’t seem to understand that biology is really very basic and reliable. Even though it is also incredibly complex, the very principles of categorising sex is basic. But hey, maybe this male person’s definition of ‘female’ suits your purpose better.

Very rare outliers. Outliers are outside of the normal categories and normal definition. They don't change the categories or the definition.

Thank you for your service in patiently explaining reality, again, for whose who have uncritically swallowed the lies of gender ideologues. As PP have said, I hope at least some lurkers are noting the lack of critical thinking and even basic respect evident from some posters who confidently blaze in to educate us bigots, armed with nothing but crap they have read on twitter

Well if nothing else this thread has proved beyond all reasonable doubt that nominative determinism is alive and well. 🙂

Matt Walsh uses, what I think is, a good question:
Q: How many legs does a human being have?
A: Two
Q: So are people born with a missing leg not human beings? Are people who lose a leg no longer human beings?

This is just a basic example that not every foetus develops as expected. DSD is a foetus not developing as expected, but it still has a sex of either male or female. A trans person can have surgery but their sex is unchanged.

It’s not a misunderstanding it’s a deliberate tactic to bolster gender identity theory.

It’s being used to prove a falsehood and sadly people with DSD are not being respected when they ask to be kept out of the trans umbrella, the trans debate etc.

Hilarious 😂😂😂

This thread illustrates why it is important that not every thread on this topic is swiftly whisked away to the "naughty corner" of the sex and gender board. The ignorance on display is astounding. I hope some of the knowledgable posters have managed to debunk some of the myths and misunderstandings on display.

On Caster, the Court of Arbitration for Sport award has been made public and makes clear the DSD applicable to Caster and its effects.
It is not that long and worth a read for those who are concerned that a "woman with high testosterone levels" has been unfairly treated.

Sources?

Sounds like you are the one denigrating other cultures because they don't fit in with your binary view on gender.

But if you are born a woman you don’t need an adjective for confirmation, it is what you are. There are so many appropriate adjectives that women can use to describe themselves, clever, funny, black, mixed race, white, old, young, adult, ,menopausal, fat, skinny, working, pregnant, British, French etc etc etc, all of which add to your knowledge of that woman, your understanding of her.

so cis as an adjective is unnecessary, she is a woman, that’s a given, we all understand that, it’s the other parts of her life , history and heritage that make her a vibrant adult human female being.

and incidentally using the adjective trans in the context trans woman is equally ridiculous, you might as well talk about a feline dog, or a feathered horse, the adjectives have no meaning or relevance to the noun.

if people want to invent a new word and call themselves transwomen then let them, that is one for the language police to figure out, but don’t start adding adjectives to the word my sex uses to describe ourselves and assuming that that makes you one of us.

https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2010/oct/11/two-spirit-people-north-america

https://www.ihs.gov/lgbt/health/twospirit/

Here is somewhere for you to start with. I am sure if you use google you will come up with more.

The second link refers to the very rare population with differences of sex development. So they were othered as well. Sure ‘revered’ sounds nice, but they were in reality ‘othered’.

I think previous posters continually use the term intersex because it fits with their view of sex being some kind of spectrum. Using the term DSD with the word 'disorder' in it probably doesn't fit as well into their thought processes.

Why are people using DSD's to justify their odd reasoning when DSD's are literally based on the fact that there are two sexes.

We don't have a binary view on gender, what we have is a binary knowledge about sex

If anything DSDs prove that there are only two sexes. A man with a DSD might have female looking genitals, but he is still a man. As a man who takes hormones and has his genitals changed to look female, is still a man.

Damn those pesky facts,they ruin everything.

Brilliant 😆😆

Reminds me of this article

www.parents.com/pregnancy/everything-pregnancy/transgender-man-gives-birth-to-healthy-baby-talks-navigating/

So woman gives birth 🤣

Yes, good old PIV sex makes babies, who knew?

Why is cultural appropriation bad, but appropriating two spirit culture to uphold gender ideology, which is white male focused ideology, good?

A friend told me last week that there are middle aged men claiming they are going through "menopause" - no doubt as a result of all the focus during the last couple of year on the effect of menopause on women in the workplace. Women can't even have the shit stuff to ourselves.