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AIBU to think this is grim. Funeral.

633 replies

ThatFraggle · 22/06/2023 19:24

A group of mourners all in normal funeral clothes. Some more formal, some less. Some not black. Fine.

Then a group of three girls. They looked older than primary school age, but younger than A level.

The one was in a skintight mini dress she kept having to pull down.

The other two were in those hotpants-vest combo unitard things people seem to wear these days. Basically like a spanx leotard, coming a couple of inches below the bum.

Yes, it's hot. And yes, people can wear what they like, but surely there's a time and a place, and a funeral is not the place.

AIBU that if it were my young teens coming down for a funeral dressed like that, I'd tell them to go back upstairs and get changed?

OP posts:
AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 25/06/2023 19:29

Do PP know that there are many female vicars around?
Twice now vicars have been automatically assumed to be male...

HulaChick · 25/06/2023 19:30

O agree with you - disrespectful & not appropriate for a funeral. There are numerous other clothes they could have worn to stay cool & yet be appropriate. Seems to me a lit of parents just don't teach their children what's acceptable & what's not these days.

Vintagejazzing · 25/06/2023 21:18

FuneralDisaster · 25/06/2023 19:28

It's more than fine, it's pretty common to wear jeans and leggings to church

Hmm "for him"
It was a female friend. So you're very telling there
She didn't feel disrespected at all. No one did comment on my outfit being inappropriate. Because despite your desperate attempts to pretend otherwise people don't care

I'm a Catholic. I assumed you were talking about the ordination of a Priest. Not sure, in any case, why it matters whether it was a male or female. The point is, it was still disrespectful. Why do you assume, because no one said anything directly to you, that everyone approved of your outfit?

FuneralDisaster · 25/06/2023 21:55

Vintagejazzing · 25/06/2023 21:18

I'm a Catholic. I assumed you were talking about the ordination of a Priest. Not sure, in any case, why it matters whether it was a male or female. The point is, it was still disrespectful. Why do you assume, because no one said anything directly to you, that everyone approved of your outfit?

Since you assume the priest was male (CofE ordinations are still priests) and were wrong you can't see you are wrong about your assumption people care what I wore? It wasn't disrespectful in the slightest.

Maybe CofE is much less judge.

Bubblesoffun · 25/06/2023 23:01

Thisisbollocksmark · 25/06/2023 19:17

What was the funny bit?

You, your the funny bit.
why do we need to see someone’s bralette?

Thisisbollocksmark · 25/06/2023 23:09

Bubblesoffun · 25/06/2023 23:01

You, your the funny bit.
why do we need to see someone’s bralette?

What difference does it make to your life, precisely?

I mean, apart from the wear and tear on your pearls.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 25/06/2023 23:33

Glittertrauma · 25/06/2023 13:44

I think you're absolutely right. I'm shocked at all the posters saying it doesn't matter as they are only teens. Teens need to be guided on what is and isn't appropriate. There are some horrendously entitled adults who have no idea how to behave, no respect for others and no thought in their heads that isn't about themselves. I can only imagine they start life as children and teenagers who never get educated on boundaries like this.

It's not that 'it doesn't matter', just that it would be extremely rude to make these girls feel uncomfortable for their dress at a funeral. I do wonder at the posters who have the head space to notice what people at a funeral would be wearing, never mind start a thread to incite as many snide comments as possible. I think they're lacking.

What could those girls have done given that they were already in attendance? Rushed home to change and missed the funeral? Hidden their wrong and shocking selves behind a curtain...?

I imagine that these girls will have clocked what other people are wearing and/or somebody close to them might guide them about funeral attire in future but if that doesn't happen, so what? Judgement is impotent and achieves absolutely nothing other than to give the bosom hoick-er a frisson of pleasure for their spite. Sad for them that they crave that so badly. People always notice.

It's not that people don't notice inappropriate clothing, any more than they don't notice spelling errors, it's just that some of us don't feel the need to pull people up on things that actually do not matter in the real world.

KimberleyClark · 25/06/2023 23:33

Thisisbollocksmark · 25/06/2023 23:09

What difference does it make to your life, precisely?

I mean, apart from the wear and tear on your pearls.

AIBU would be very quiet if people only posted about stuff that affected them directly.

Rainydaysandicecream · 26/06/2023 01:54

FuneralDisaster · 25/06/2023 19:28

It's more than fine, it's pretty common to wear jeans and leggings to church

Hmm "for him"
It was a female friend. So you're very telling there
She didn't feel disrespected at all. No one did comment on my outfit being inappropriate. Because despite your desperate attempts to pretend otherwise people don't care

I agree with pp. Of course people won't have commented or said it to you at church, but at least some of them will have found the revealing playsuit (as you described it) inappropriate dress for the ordination you were attending. I'm afraid you are deceiving yourself if you think otherwise.

You are probably right that some people won't care, but you are wrong in thinking everyone won't.

EasterBreak · 26/06/2023 01:55

Yes mum.

Rainydaysandicecream · 26/06/2023 01:57

Mothers can be very wise, people should listen to them more 😉

CelestiaNoctis · 26/06/2023 02:00

If you don't know what relation they are then it sounds like you were a random to this funeral tbh. I would be surprised they were allowed in if I looked back at photos but if I was there at the time I wouldn't notice because I'd be, you know, mourning and grieving. Clearly your co workers funeral or something.

Begsthequestion · 26/06/2023 02:08

Theoldgreygoose · 23/06/2023 20:52

She is COMMENTING on MN, and judging. Commenting = express an opinion or reaction in speech or writing. Which is what she did.

People with good manners and breeding do not comment on what others are wearing - especially to a bunch of random strangers. They might say something behind closed doors to family or friends, that is not what judgy pants OP has done.

"good breeding"?

What are you, a posh horse?

twoandcooplease · 26/06/2023 03:34

ThatFraggle · 25/06/2023 16:38

*Jesus didn't teach us to judge

Well then, what are you all doing on AIBU because it is literally a place for offering up judgements.

Pahaha sorry that really tickled me
What a comeback 😂😂👏

5128gap · 26/06/2023 07:20

Rainydaysandicecream · 25/06/2023 18:46

I don't think they'd wear the extremely short shorts or clubbling wear to an important job interview though. Their parents might also advise against it. They'd dress with more thought and respect for the occasion.

Why does someone's funeral deserve less respect than a job interview?

Neither have the slightest to do with 'respect' and are two entirely different things. In a job interview in most industries the candidate wants to look like they would fit with the culture of the workplace, which extends to clothes. Its not about respect for the panel, its pure pragmatism to signal you look like you could work there so you get the job.
Girls attending a funeral are highly unlikely to want to signal anything to random attendees like the OP, and unless the deceased was also preoccupied with attire they wouldn't be disrespecting their wishes.
Occasions are not something to respect, people are. And unless the OP is claiming the deceased and/or close family would have seen the clothes as a deliberate act of offence, no disrespect occurred. Although if it were my funeral and my DGD, I'd take a fairly dim view of the OP calling it 'grim' all over MN. As that would be disrespectful to my family.

RachaelN · 26/06/2023 07:23

changeyerheadworzel · 25/06/2023 17:15

It was ok. The fact it still annoys you so much speaks volumes.

If you knew my family and the context, you would know this wasn't ok and that it was done on purpose out of disrespect.

Vintagejazzing · 26/06/2023 09:23

FuneralDisaster · 25/06/2023 21:55

Since you assume the priest was male (CofE ordinations are still priests) and were wrong you can't see you are wrong about your assumption people care what I wore? It wasn't disrespectful in the slightest.

Maybe CofE is much less judge.

Your jumps of logic are strange. Because I, as a Catholic living in Ireland, assumed when you used the word Ordination you were talking about a male, that means I am wrong about all assumptions?

Yet you assume that no one cares about what people wear to Church ceremonies anymore because no one directly commented to you about an unsuitable outfit you wore to an Ordination? It doesn't even seem to occur to you that, just because people said nothing, it doesn't mean they were silently annoyed or taken aback but were too polite to comment?

Rainydaysandicecream · 26/06/2023 10:25

5128gap · 26/06/2023 07:20

Neither have the slightest to do with 'respect' and are two entirely different things. In a job interview in most industries the candidate wants to look like they would fit with the culture of the workplace, which extends to clothes. Its not about respect for the panel, its pure pragmatism to signal you look like you could work there so you get the job.
Girls attending a funeral are highly unlikely to want to signal anything to random attendees like the OP, and unless the deceased was also preoccupied with attire they wouldn't be disrespecting their wishes.
Occasions are not something to respect, people are. And unless the OP is claiming the deceased and/or close family would have seen the clothes as a deliberate act of offence, no disrespect occurred. Although if it were my funeral and my DGD, I'd take a fairly dim view of the OP calling it 'grim' all over MN. As that would be disrespectful to my family.

I'm sorry, it seems we just profoundly disagree on this.
I consider it disrespectful to the deceased, the family, to God to wear clubbing/beach wear to a funeral or ordination. Certain clothing is appropriate to certain activities and not others. Swimwear is absolutely fine at a beach or pool but not suitable elsewhere, for example. Similarly, hotpants and revealing playsuits are appropriate to wear on some occasions and not others. But I don't think this is the teens' fault, they should have been guided as to what was suitable.
I wouldn't allow my daughter to turn up in micro shorts at a funeral any more than I'd let my son attend in his cycling shorts and a vest top. They are also young teens so the same sort of ages as the kids here.
Neither should parents have to purchase outfits specially for them of course. I don't think they need wear black and lots of casual clothing would be fine for a child or teen to wear. School trousers etc would be fine too.

Hotsummerlatenightstrolls · 26/06/2023 12:32

I saw a woman who wore a hoodie with bright pink cycling shorts I had to stop myself from laughing she looked at me. It's a sight for sore eyes, seriously. I agree people should wear what they want but it doesn't mean it looks good.

potniatheron · 26/06/2023 12:48

I remember when I was early teens had to go to a fmaily funeral and did not own a funeral appropriate outfit. Wardrobe was all jeans and t shirts. So my grandmother made me wear my navy school blazer. Got a few strange looks but better than jeans and a t shirt.

The main objective of parenting is socialising your children so that they can eventually navigate life independently and know how to behave appropriately in the adult world. Wearing sombre clothes to a funeral is part of that.

Dixiechickonhols · 26/06/2023 12:58

Children wearing uniforms at funerals definitely used to be a thing. It would usually be the smartest clothing they had.

gannett · 26/06/2023 13:17

Based on this thread I am absolutely going to write in my will that clubbing outfits will not just be acceptable but encouraged at my funeral. I would love my funeral to be a rave-up, really.

TheaBrandt · 26/06/2023 13:21

Me too. Hot pants or don’t bother coming.

Hotsummerlatenightstrolls · 26/06/2023 14:05

If that's what you want people to wear at your funeral then that's fine. If people want a more traditional funeral then that's okay. I think the posters above me have shown how much this has affected them that now they are planning their funerals 🙄

frambly · 26/06/2023 14:29

Presumably the front-line mourners were the ones to state that there was no dress code?
there was no dress code. they respected that.
i struggle to see where the disrespect lies here?
They turned up. that was respectful of them.
i don't hear that they were on their phones all through the service. that was respectful of them.
i didn't read that they used foul language, or threw food at the wake? that was respectful of them.
the last funeral i attended was no dress code. the sons and daughters of the deceased referred to their father by his first name, as they have all their lives. Disrespectful? nah! none of anyone's business!