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To think that secondary school uniform rules are ridiculous?

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TrulyFlumptious · 21/06/2023 15:20

Just for transparency, my DC are nursery and primary school age, so I currently have no skin in this game.

When I was in school (I’m in my late 30s, for reference) primary and secondary uniforms were very similar. Shirt and tie, branded cardi/jumper, plain black shoes and black or grey skirt/trousers. This was the standard from reception up to year 11.

Over the years, primary uniforms have gotten a bit more casual. Branded polo tops in place of shirts and ties seem to be the standard now. I have 3 primary schools near me and I can’t remember the last time I saw a small child in a shirt and tie.

However secondaries, even the local community schools, now seem to be channelling private school style uniforms as standard. My old school now insists on blazers, school issue tights, and uniform skirts in a school-particular check pattern. This seems to be standard process across most senior schools now. You also barely go a week without seeing a story about a child getting into trouble for not wearing the uniform tights, being put in a weeks isolation for forgetting their jumper, or children being forced to keep their blazers on in heatwaves whilst their teachers are in short sleeves or summer dresses.

AIBU to think this is completely ridiculous and getting out of hand? The argument of “this is preparing them for work” is totally arbitrary now - the world has changed, especially since covid, and barely anyone wears a shirt, tie or blazer to work any more. Most office workers are in smart casual and can adapt their dress for their own comfort levels, and even in the jobs that do require uniform it usually consists of branded polos/tees, or a tunic. What exactly are these students being “prepared” for? Yes, there should be some uniform rules in place to ensure students are not inappropriately dressed, but as far as I can see, these ridiculously over-complicated uniforms are out of touch, out of date, and do not fit in with modern society. I feel they are used simply as a means of control.

And don’t even get me started on the cost.

What do you think?

YANBU – senior school uniforms are ridiculously over-complicated, out of touch, and need to go back to basics
YABU – school uniforms are as strict and complicated as they should be.

OP posts:
katierocks · 10/12/2023 21:43

DappledThings · 10/12/2023 16:13

Some people seem to make a big deal out of uniform being uncomfortable, but I guess that depends on what's being worn and what you're doing? So for me and my sisters, wearing a skirt/shirt/tie/jumper at school wasn't all of a sudden more uncomfortable because we'd arrived home, particularly since all we were doing a lot of the time was either watching telly, doing homework or just lounging around. And even if we did hang around after school with friends somewhere, they would all still be in uniform too so it wasn't seen as an issue.
Yep, totally the same. Uniform wasn't uncomfortable at school or at home. People talk on here about not being able to relax in jeans either and changing when they get home. I don't get it. None of my clothes are uncomfortable. Sitting on the sofa in jeans is the same as sitting on the sofa in school uniform or in joggers.

I've just been reading this thread whilst eldest is sitting next to me on the sofa. She was performing at a school concert this afternoon; it finished at 5pm, got home at 6pm, and she's still in her uniform. Neither of us can see what all the fuss is about.

fedupofnightshifts · 11/12/2023 18:47

@pointythings how much did they wear uniform before it got washed; did you find any difference between that and when they wore non uniform clothes?

pointythings · 11/12/2023 19:13

@fedupofnightshifts it depended - white shirts/polos need more washing than a blazer or school skirt, for example. And it's also weather dependent. In summer, uniform was definitely worse because of the materials involved - wearing comfortable natural fabrics just means you get less sweaty, grubby and smelly. And actually the same applied in winter because the mix of polyester and central heating is also not great.

Stellium · 11/12/2023 20:11

Sitting on the sofa in jeans

Jeans have a tight waist band/aren't as flexible, I like to sit with my legs pulled up and it's much easier in joggers/leggings/PJ bottoms/Normal trousers with elasticated waistbands and softer materials. I can't feel the waist band when I sit in some bottoms and I like it that way. I used to refuse to wear jeans as a child as I found them to be uncomfortable around the waist, elasticated only for me back then 24/7 haha.

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