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To tell those who lecture me on vaping to Fuck Off

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Dogsitterwoes · 17/06/2023 13:52

AIBU. No, let them lecture you
YANBU - Yes, be rude to them

I'm in my 50s and was a long term smoker. I switched to vaping in January. I am considerate and only vape outdoors and move away from other people or into a smoking area. People sometimes
comment, there's a brief convo around my giving up smoking, and 9 out of 10 respond nicely in a 'well done you' kind of way.

The 1 out of 10 though start lecturing me on the evils of vaping. These can be complete strangers, or acquaintances. They go on and on.
Usual themes:

  1. Just as bad for you or worse for you than smoking.
  2. Children are vaping.
  3. Environmental impact of disposables.

I respond politely. I acknowledge there is a concern around all of this, and
1 - I know they aren't exactly good for me but I think they are not as bad as cigarettes, and it's my intension to also stop vaping this year
2 - I agree the manufacturer's should stop targeting non-smokers with the sweet flavours
3 - I agree, I use a rechargeable, but there's probably a lot more all of us could be doing for the environment.

But they do not let it drop. I've literally been lectured at on and on.

YANBU to stop being polite after my initial response and tell them that if I stopped vaping today, I'd be back on the fags tomorrow so mind their own fucking business?

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bladebladebla1 · 23/06/2023 19:25

Well; this escalated. Chill out everyone, Jesus!

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 19:40

Tryagainplease · 23/06/2023 14:22

You’re also a hypocrite because you are not listening to anything that the other side is saying - you’ve been given statistics, very well reasoned arguments, lots of information on how effective vaping is for smoking cessation etc etc and you haven’t taken in a word of it. You just keep blindly and dumbly decrying “vaping is vile and stinky” and tbh, it’s a little grating.

I think you need to look up the word hypocrite. I am allowed to have my own opinion and I shall ‘decry’ all I like - and yes vaping is very vile and stinky!

PencilsInSpace · 23/06/2023 19:40

bonfirebash · 23/06/2023 19:13

@PencilsInSpace 9 watts apparently
I vape 10mg at 11.5

Oh right, that doesn't sound too bad then. 12 or 18mg at 8.8 watts here.

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 19:43

humblemeep · 23/06/2023 15:11

Some people on here are just determined to say vaping is "disgusting ", wasting our time.

Again, we're proud that we've managed to give up smoking for something less dangerous. I'll await these studies that have been mentioned regarding how dangerous vaping is, but in the meantime I'm sure that it's healthier than smoking.

My mum had asthma from inhaling my father's smoke, funnily enough me vaping around her doesn't affect her at all.

The NHS are promoting vaping as a smoking cessation method.

It's my business how often I vape. As previously stated you don't get as big a hit from vaping as you do from cigarettes.

I'm tired of the whole popcorn lung tales, they've been proven incorrect, as they were only linked to eliquid sold illegally in the US, mainly containing cannabis, from what I've read.

I don't drink a lot, maybe 2 units every 3 to 4 weeks, I don't gamble or spend a lot of money on unhealthy food, takeaways etc. I don't subohm vape, my small pen ecig doesn't produce huge clouds of vapour and I don't vape in crowds.

And are you ‘proud’ of causing innocent other people respiratory distress? Nothing to be proud of at all. It might be your business his often you vape but it is also other peoples business when they are breathing in this vile crap.

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 19:47

PencilsInSpace · 23/06/2023 18:14

I swear if someone wrote 'Vaping makes your head fall off' you'd be there saying 'Yes, exactly!!! It's disgusting!!' 😂

I would be yes! Wish that did happen..

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 19:48

Appalonia · 23/06/2023 18:41

So are all the self righteous pp on here going to stop driving their cars, stop flying on holiday, stop eating junk food for the sake of all our health? No? Didn't think so. So STOP moralsing about vapes which have been PROVEN to be 95% safer than cigarettes.I

And yes, I agree, they shouldn't be marketed or sold to minors, but that's a different issue.

And what about the other 5%??

Tryagainplease · 23/06/2023 19:50

bladebladebla1 · 23/06/2023 19:25

Well; this escalated. Chill out everyone, Jesus!

Apparently, it’s an emotive topic. Who knew Grin

Tryagainplease · 23/06/2023 19:54

Appalonia · 23/06/2023 18:41

So are all the self righteous pp on here going to stop driving their cars, stop flying on holiday, stop eating junk food for the sake of all our health? No? Didn't think so. So STOP moralsing about vapes which have been PROVEN to be 95% safer than cigarettes.I

And yes, I agree, they shouldn't be marketed or sold to minors, but that's a different issue.

It’s a good point. There are far, far more things people could be doing that are destructive to theirs and other people’s health than vaping. And I’m talking about ex smokers, not vaping hide clouds and not doing so directly in people’s faces.

I will say again - I don’t vape - but I honestly cannot recall ever coming across anyone vaping massive clouds right in other people’s faces. Most vapers I now end up standing in the smoking shelter with other smokers (which is a shame for them, actually - not sure how that effects their ability to stay off cigarettes but then I’m no expert)

ToughLoveLDN · 23/06/2023 20:17

You haven't really quit smoking at all though have you, you've just switched to vaping

PencilsInSpace · 23/06/2023 20:19

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 19:47

I would be yes! Wish that did happen..

Well there you go, that's why your posts are not worth taking seriously.

I just hope you are not actually a 'clinician' as you claim.

PencilsInSpace · 23/06/2023 20:31

Most vapers I now end up standing in the smoking shelter with other smokers (which is a shame for them, actually - not sure how that effects their ability to stay off cigarettes but then I’m no expert)

It's not great. Vaping is one of the most effective tools we have for quitting smoking but the early days can still be tough. Being made to stand next to smokers does not help. Also, of course, vapers are not smokers yet they are being subjected to second hand smoke.

It's something PHE were very clear about in their guidance for businesses and employers:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/use-of-e-cigarettes-in-public-places-and-workplaces

To tell those who lecture me on vaping to Fuck Off
PencilsInSpace · 23/06/2023 20:45

OTOH, vapers can be extremely effective advocates towards those who are still smoking. Over the years I've persuaded quite a few smokers to give vaping a try through chats in the smoking shelter so perhaps the net harm cancels out.

(Of course nobody quits in order to reduce net harm at a societal level, we quit because we care about our own health and the health of our loved ones)

humblemeep · 23/06/2023 20:49

@Mybusyday luckily I don't live next door to you, because I'm sure you're a nightmare of a neighbour.

Tbh I don't care about people as petty as you, I am proud that I don't smoke anymore.

I'm bowing out of the thread because I'm tired of reading the same thing again and again from you. You have your opinion, but a lot of your comments are just plain childish.

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 21:41

ToughLoveLDN · 23/06/2023 20:17

You haven't really quit smoking at all though have you, you've just switched to vaping

This

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 21:43

PencilsInSpace · 23/06/2023 20:19

Well there you go, that's why your posts are not worth taking seriously.

I just hope you are not actually a 'clinician' as you claim.

Oh so it’s ok for you to have a go at me but you don’t like it when I bite back? Strange that…
Might be that one day you might need a clinician like me - especially if you carry on with your lethal habit..

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 21:44

PencilsInSpace · 23/06/2023 20:45

OTOH, vapers can be extremely effective advocates towards those who are still smoking. Over the years I've persuaded quite a few smokers to give vaping a try through chats in the smoking shelter so perhaps the net harm cancels out.

(Of course nobody quits in order to reduce net harm at a societal level, we quit because we care about our own health and the health of our loved ones)

You must be so proud….,

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 21:45

humblemeep · 23/06/2023 20:49

@Mybusyday luckily I don't live next door to you, because I'm sure you're a nightmare of a neighbour.

Tbh I don't care about people as petty as you, I am proud that I don't smoke anymore.

I'm bowing out of the thread because I'm tired of reading the same thing again and again from you. You have your opinion, but a lot of your comments are just plain childish.

Bye bye then

OneTC · 23/06/2023 23:19

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 19:48

And what about the other 5%??

We're in the glass is 95% full mindset 😎

TidyHomeTidyMind · 24/06/2023 06:09

Flippin heck, is mybusyday (clearly not busy at all) still going?
I have the most crippling urge to go outside and blow vape clouds at my neighbours washing......although they smoke weed so it probably won't finish them off!

Tryagainplease · 24/06/2023 07:20

Mybusyday · 23/06/2023 21:43

Oh so it’s ok for you to have a go at me but you don’t like it when I bite back? Strange that…
Might be that one day you might need a clinician like me - especially if you carry on with your lethal habit..

You are definitely not a clinician.
My money is on GP receptionist.

Mommyofvikings · 24/06/2023 07:24

BringMeTea · 17/06/2023 14:26

Fuck 'em. I would drop anyone who felt they had the right to do this. I find any vapour aroma less nauseating than people's perfume/aftershave. I don't vape but sanctimonious gobshites really fuck me off.

Exactly this! People should mind their own business and get over themselves

TidyHomeTidyMind · 24/06/2023 07:42

@Tryagainplease I don't think mybusyday works.....they don't have time with all of the curtain twitching, washing to be brought in and spamming (I mean posting😉) on mn.
I think clinician might be another word for self appointed life guru!

Mybusyday · 24/06/2023 08:05

TidyHomeTidyMind · 24/06/2023 06:09

Flippin heck, is mybusyday (clearly not busy at all) still going?
I have the most crippling urge to go outside and blow vape clouds at my neighbours washing......although they smoke weed so it probably won't finish them off!

Gosh your neighbourhood must really stink

Mybusyday · 24/06/2023 08:08

Tryagainplease · 24/06/2023 07:20

You are definitely not a clinician.
My money is on GP receptionist.

What you don’t think I’m a clinician because I don’t agree with you vaping? Ok then..

Mybusyday · 24/06/2023 08:09

Mommyofvikings · 24/06/2023 07:24

Exactly this! People should mind their own business and get over themselves

How can they mind their own business when vapers are making it their business by affecting their health!

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