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Parent gifts/Inheritance- unfair?

429 replies

ducksandquackers · 11/06/2023 18:14

I’ll start with a little background, my parents were both from low income families, my dad went on to be a lawyer and my mum a teacher. My dad is now 77 my mum passed away 6 years ago.
I have one brother, he’s 50, I’m 42. He has one daughter who is 18, I have one son who is 8 months.
When my mum passed away my dad sold their home, bought a small one bedroom flat. Never really thought twice about what happened with the money. I guess I assumed it was out away in savings or something similar.
My brother is an accountant, makes £150,000+ a year, his wife passed away 7 years ago, he used her life insurance to pay off their mortgage and has been financially comfortable since. I’m a nurse, my husband a police officer. We aren’t struggling per se but in my family we are the worst off.

We met for a family meal last night, my brother, niece, husband, dad and son. I asked my niece if the new student loan changes would impact her as she’s due to go to uni after summer. She said no, she wouldn’t be getting a student loan. My husband joked asking how she would afford everything then and she said “Grandad gave me money for course fees and Accomodation”. I could tell my dad and brother didn’t want that to be something I knew.
I questioned my brother today. He told me when my dad sold the house, he gave a chunk of the money (£150,000) to my niece. At the time I’d said I’d never have children, so he wanted to give it to his granddaughter now rather than once he’s gone and can’t see her make use of it. My brother and I would get the split of the flat he’s currently in, anything left in pensions and some moneys he’s saved after he passes.
Now when I didn’t have kids this would be fair I think. I get that. But I do have a son now, not only has he missed out on a grandma on my side, and a grandad young enough to be able to play and look after him, he’s missed out on holidays with grandparents and all sorts. But also, he’s missed out on inheritance.
For years my brother has been putting £500-£1000 a month in savings for my niece, so she has a good amount in savings anyway. My husband and I have a mortgage and don’t make enough to save that sort of money for my son. My husbands parents won’t leave much in the way of inheritance and what they do is split between 6 grandkids.

So AIBU to think it’s not fair my niece gets all the money from my parents house? Even if she was the only grandchild at the point of the deal? She isn’t now and surely my son is just as entitled to that as she is? Should I talk to my dad?

OP posts:
jenandberrys · 11/06/2023 19:25

SchoolShenanigans · 11/06/2023 19:22

Why are you being so personal to OP?

Because someone who describes a grandchild who has lost their mother, in the way the OP has, sounds unpleasant. IMO her view on what her son is 'entitled' to sounds grabby. I find it odd that you didn't understand that.

Hannahsbananas · 11/06/2023 19:26

ducksandquackers · 11/06/2023 19:24

No not really, my dad has a habit of forgetting where he came from, got some money (albeit from working hard and I appreciate that) and let it go to his head, my brother and his wife were accountants, a career he approved of. Was never happy with my career path or that I chose to marry someone who also would never be earning large amounts.

It sounds as though you’re the one bitter and twisted about your career path, and jealous that your brother is on a more secure financial footing.
Presumably your own choice? 🤷🏻‍♀️
Why should someone gift you large amounts of money to make it “fair”?

jenandberrys · 11/06/2023 19:28

You are being pretty unpleasant about your family. It seems very obvious you resent their financial success/security. No wonder they don't want to sub you for the choices you made, when you seem so disparaging of their lives and choices.

Lefteyetwitch · 11/06/2023 19:31

ducksandquackers · 11/06/2023 19:24

No not really, my dad has a habit of forgetting where he came from, got some money (albeit from working hard and I appreciate that) and let it go to his head, my brother and his wife were accountants, a career he approved of. Was never happy with my career path or that I chose to marry someone who also would never be earning large amounts.

At some point it's reasonable for parents to have a favourite.
As adults with their own personality it's easy to like and dislike certain aspects of a human.

Maybe he disliked your fmjob choices because you can be so grabby?

ladydimitrescu · 11/06/2023 19:32

She lost her mum. I think as far as unfair goes, she's had her fill of it.

batsandeggs · 11/06/2023 19:32

You’re sounding more bitter, resentful and just generally unpleasant the more you post and reveal. Your dad made the gift based on your statement that you would never be having kids. Your brother and his salary, savings or circumstances have nothing to do with anything. And I bet your niece would rather have her mother than have her tuition and accommodation paid for. Let it go, you’ll get what you get when your dad passes. How sad that you’re more concerned with that than family relationships.

Basilthymerosemary · 11/06/2023 19:32

Politics and International Relations … dare I say she’s about as logical as the politicians who have been running the country lately, the future for politics is looking bright 👀

You should very bitter. Don't be unkind to your niece- she did nothing wrong.

ProfessorXtra · 11/06/2023 19:32

Second time in 2 days where the Ops claims about a sibling being the golden child, but it not ringing true.

Both Ops obsessed over money and how they are owed because the sibling earns more. Both banging on about what they have lost how hard things are for them.

and in both cases, it sounds like the sibling is closer to family because the Op has an attitude problem with their family.

AnnaKorine · 11/06/2023 19:34

I don’t know why you are getting such a hard time. It’s clear the grand daughter has plenty of financial support from her father and it would have been nice for you to be afforded the same opportunity. I can understand why that hurts a bit. MN is really funny about inheritance. Yes they can spend it how they want but it would be nice for it to feel fair as a family member.

WittynotPretty · 11/06/2023 19:34

Unfortunately, the golden child isn’t necessarily the one who takes on the care of elderly parents. By default, the burden seems to fall more on the ‘lesser’ child - the one with the (perceived) less demanding career, or none, the one who’s more ‘available’ and ‘good at looking after people’ or ‘more organised’ ie. a daughter.

ladydimitrescu · 11/06/2023 19:34

Basilthymerosemary · 11/06/2023 19:32

Politics and International Relations … dare I say she’s about as logical as the politicians who have been running the country lately, the future for politics is looking bright 👀

You should very bitter. Don't be unkind to your niece- she did nothing wrong.

This - what a nasty thing to say about your niece. You are clearly bitter, but that is just downright spiteful.

saraclara · 11/06/2023 19:36

But I do have a son now, not only has he missed out on a grandma on my side, and a grandad young enough to be able to play and look after him, he’s missed out on holidays with grandparents and all sorts.

And your niece has missed out on having a mother since she was 11 years old.

You said you weren't having children, your father saw his only grandchild losing her mother at a very young age. I can entirely understand why he did what he did.

Noicant · 11/06/2023 19:37

She lost her mum, your dad made the decision before you had a child. If something had also happened to your brother then your niece would have had some financial security. I can’t imagine how DH and DD would feel if I died. I think your dad should even it up later but he made the best decision he could with the information he had at the time.

I think you need to be a bit more compassionate towards your niece here and your brother who lost his wife.

ProfessorXtra · 11/06/2023 19:38

AnnaKorine · 11/06/2023 19:34

I don’t know why you are getting such a hard time. It’s clear the grand daughter has plenty of financial support from her father and it would have been nice for you to be afforded the same opportunity. I can understand why that hurts a bit. MN is really funny about inheritance. Yes they can spend it how they want but it would be nice for it to feel fair as a family member.

It’s not inheritance because the father is still alive. He decided to help out his grand child. As a gift. At the time op was adamant she wasn’t having kids. So there was only ever going to be one grandchild to consider.

and Op is getting a hard time because she whining about what her son is missing out on but has no empathy for a teenager whose mum died when she was a child and is missing out on a lot. Op then grilled her about her finances and then is having a pop at her own niece.

Lefteyetwitch · 11/06/2023 19:38

WittynotPretty · 11/06/2023 19:34

Unfortunately, the golden child isn’t necessarily the one who takes on the care of elderly parents. By default, the burden seems to fall more on the ‘lesser’ child - the one with the (perceived) less demanding career, or none, the one who’s more ‘available’ and ‘good at looking after people’ or ‘more organised’ ie. a daughter.

Sometimes on MN I wonder. Are they the golden child. Or are they just likeable as a human compared to the other person?

SchoolShenanigans · 11/06/2023 19:38

FirstDogOnTheMoon · 11/06/2023 19:24

You sound really bitter OP.

You aren’t entitled to the money and neither is your son. This isn’t yours and your brothers money, it shouldn’t have been ‘split 50/50’. You DF decided to give a lump sum to your niece, who is her own person. That was his choice. Maybe he will give something to your child, maybe not. But this isn’t about your brother and you, it’s a private thing between your DF and his granddaughter.

I hope she smashes university and gets an amazing job and gives you two fingers to be honest. You’re saying some mean stuff about your family and it’s all because you’re bitter about money. It’s not your nieces fault, don’t blame her.

How horrible are you?!

All OP wants is to be treated fairly. That's normal for any siblings.

Hannahsbananas · 11/06/2023 19:40

AnnaKorine · 11/06/2023 19:34

I don’t know why you are getting such a hard time. It’s clear the grand daughter has plenty of financial support from her father and it would have been nice for you to be afforded the same opportunity. I can understand why that hurts a bit. MN is really funny about inheritance. Yes they can spend it how they want but it would be nice for it to feel fair as a family member.

Why should op be “afforded the same opportunity”?
She presumably had the same educational opportunities as her brother, why should she be looked after by her father as a grown adult with a family of her own because she hasn’t maximised her own earning power??

whumpthereitis · 11/06/2023 19:40

ducksandquackers · 11/06/2023 19:18

Frankly, my brother was always my dads favourite, and my niece benefited greatly from that. My brother didn’t need the money, and well as per I was forgotten about, so niece gets it. Frankly she has my dad wrapped around her little finger, gets whatever she asks for.

Suck it up, frankly. He doesn’t ‘need’ the money in order for your father to give it to him, and nor does your niece. It’s his money to do what he likes with, he isn’t required to be ‘fair’.

TheSnowyOwl · 11/06/2023 19:40

I don’t see that your brother’s financial circumstances come into things but I do think that a pre-teen whose mother had just died and whose grandmother had also recently died is almost never going to be in situation to envy. I guarantee that she would swap £150k for her mother.

If the inheritance was given now, then I would agree that it was unfair. However, lots of people try to give away money whilst they can and before they are taxed on it, so you have to look at what was fair at the time and you admit that you think it was fair whilst you were childless.

If I was your dad, I would be planning on extra for your son but it’s a choice he makes and not something your son is entitled to or you should be talking to your dad about to ensure takes place.

NollyNilly · 11/06/2023 19:40

It should've been split between you and your brother because although technically its gone to your niece it's benefitting your brother also and so you have been excluded.

I think the opinion divide here is people who have kids vs those that don't!

Hannahsbananas · 11/06/2023 19:41

SchoolShenanigans · 11/06/2023 19:38

How horrible are you?!

All OP wants is to be treated fairly. That's normal for any siblings.

She hasn’t been treated unfairly.

viques · 11/06/2023 19:41

Welliehead · 11/06/2023 18:45

What a waste of money.

Hell yes. She could have blown the lot on hair extensions, Botox,lip fillers and new tits, and bought a little sports car with horrendous insurance.

How very shortsighted of her to invest in her own career and secure her future financially.

WittynotPretty · 11/06/2023 19:41

@Noicant As a high earning accountant, surely the OP’s DB has life insurance, a pension, savings and other assets ( including a mortgage free house) which would have secured his daughter’s financial future ? No need for her to be dependant on her DGF at all if, heaven forbid, she’d lost her DF as well.

Hannahsbananas · 11/06/2023 19:41

I think the opinion divide here is people who have kids vs those that don't!
Really, no 🙄

sammylady37 · 11/06/2023 19:42

SchoolShenanigans · 11/06/2023 19:38

How horrible are you?!

All OP wants is to be treated fairly. That's normal for any siblings.

Yeah, I’ve heard siblings whine about things not being fair. When they’re 8 or 9. Not so much as adults.