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Shark Attack

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JayAlfredPrufrock · 09/06/2023 17:46

Nice to see that the shark that killed a swimmer in Egypt was caught and beaten to death on the beach.

<Slow handclap>

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troubg · 09/06/2023 19:03

I don't think it's nice the shark was killed how it was but I don't think the shark needs to be hailed a hero either

It's really weird tbh.

deepdeepblue · 09/06/2023 19:03

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:58

The arrogance of humans thinking we are not part of the food chain.

We are not part of a normal sharks food chain, why would you think that? Arrogance 🤣🤣 Use your noggin, if it was normal for sharks to eat humans there would be so many more attacks.

Not normal but it does happen, very rarely, when we enter their natural environment.

I think it is arrogant when humans are shocked or think it is somehow wrong that a shark killed a human in the sea.

troubg · 09/06/2023 19:04

I suppose at least this one isn't now around to attack anyone else, but most likely those who killed it were thinking less about the Russian bather and more about their tourist industry

Exactly

troubg · 09/06/2023 19:04

@deepdeepblue who is shocked though?

troubg · 09/06/2023 19:05

Nothing to do with arrogance. I'm quite able to have empathy for a shark attack victim, it's a horrible way to die. You can disagree of course.

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 19:07

I don't think it's nice the shark was killed how it was but I don't think the shark needs to be hailed a hero either
It's really weird tbh.*

BS. Who said it was a hero? It was a shark being the predator that it was. That's all. Awful for the man but not an act of evil or heroism.

PoeAFighterAResistanceFighter · 09/06/2023 19:07

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:51

The report I read said that illegal dumping of meat/carcasses was probably a contributory factor.

This is a big problem. I eat meat & fish occasionally though so would be a complete hypocrite to be "the poor shark" when my actions are part of the problem.

Well exactly, all these shark activists all eat fish I bet.

I mean, I'm fed up living in a world where stupid humans and their animal exploitation causes huge problems.

But I'm in the minority and just sit back and wonder at all the hypocrisy.

cakeorwine · 09/06/2023 19:08

Chumming the water to attract sharks is going to lead sharks to associate boats with food. You go in the water, you risk becoming part of the food chain.

I know that they would want to protect their tourist industry - just look at Jaws. I don't remember any argument in the film that the shark should just be left alone.

Mamamia32 · 09/06/2023 19:08

It can't have suffered much more than all the fish we catch and eat as humans. They are just left to suffocate, and the shark would have suffocated within minutes.

Papernotplastic · 09/06/2023 19:09

’Sameh Mshaly, an experienced diver based in the area, said recurring shark attacks appear to take place annually at the same Hijiri time due to the presence of cattle boats in the area.
“The shark that attacked the tourist was frenzied,” Mr Mshaly said in a Facebook post. “Its diet and natural feeding patterns [have been] disrupted because of these livestock boats.”
Essam Omaria, an official at the Ministry of Environment, confirmed that shark behaviour changes significantly due to food and waste dumped from ships. This is particularly prevalent in the Red Sea Region.’

QuintanaRoo · 09/06/2023 19:10

Interestingly cows kill more people a year than sharks. I’m it sure if cows are killed after trampling someone to death, I suspect probably not.

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 19:10

I know that they would want to protect their tourist industry - just look at Jaws. I don't remember any argument in the film that the shark should just be left alone.

Ignoring the fact that the shark in Jaws behaved nothing like a real shark, The author of Jaws had very deep regret over the impact it had on sharks.

www.boston.com/culture/entertainment/2015/06/19/why-the-author-of-jaws-wished-he-never-wrote-it/

youhavenoshameonyourface · 09/06/2023 19:10

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:58

The arrogance of humans thinking we are not part of the food chain.

We are not part of a normal sharks food chain, why would you think that? Arrogance 🤣🤣 Use your noggin, if it was normal for sharks to eat humans there would be so many more attacks.

It will be interesting to see if sharks begin to hunt different prey once the fish stocks and marine mammals that they would usually eat become more and more depleted.

They may learn over the next few years that tourist beaches all over the world make for very good hunting grounds. They're not daft.

watcherintherye · 09/06/2023 19:11

If you don't want to run the risk of being predated on by sea creatures, stay out of the fucking sea.

This. That’s the trouble with human beings. We’re all so bloody entitled. The world is not just ours to trash, and to kill any other creatures that get in our way, but we carry on doing it regardless…

lalalallala · 09/06/2023 19:11

Greensleeves · 09/06/2023 18:15

The poor creature was dragged out of the sea and literally punched/kicked to death. It will have died slowly, painfully and in utter terror. For engaging in its natural behaviour in its own habitat.

These creatures are endangered ffs. Not that it would be acceptable if they weren't! If you don't want to run the risk of being predated on by sea creatures, stay out of the fucking sea.

It's a different culture. It wasn't ethical to beat/kick the shark to death, but that's just how they roll over there.

They wanted to avenge that poor young man and I can understand it in some way.

It was a killer shark that has just ripped a human being to pieces. Not a little kitten.

QuintanaRoo · 09/06/2023 19:11

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 19:07

I don't think it's nice the shark was killed how it was but I don't think the shark needs to be hailed a hero either
It's really weird tbh.*

BS. Who said it was a hero? It was a shark being the predator that it was. That's all. Awful for the man but not an act of evil or heroism.

Stuff on social media as the victim was Russian. Obviously rubbish but people hailing the shark a Ukrainian hero.

Bananananananananana · 09/06/2023 19:11

ReleasetheCrackHen · 09/06/2023 18:13

It wasn’t humane, but necessary. That shark killed and then ate a person.

There is zero reason for a human being to be swimming out into the sea. You get eaten, it's unfortunate but it's not the animal fault.

deepdeepblue · 09/06/2023 19:12

troubg · 09/06/2023 19:04

@deepdeepblue who is shocked though?

People who are saying it is not ‘normal’ behaviour for that species. All living things evolve and adapt to changes in the environment. Therefore maybe humans are now becoming a potential food source for them.

And maybe those who battered it to death and put a hook in its eye.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 09/06/2023 19:13

I’ve seen a kitten being beaten to death in Egypt. And a lizard.

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ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 19:14

Stuff on social media as the victim was Russian. Obviously rubbish but people hailing the shark a Ukrainian hero.

I was talking about MN but that's just stupid and fucked up. It was some random Russian guy, not Putin.

GingerScallop · 09/06/2023 19:14

Greensleeves · 09/06/2023 18:15

The poor creature was dragged out of the sea and literally punched/kicked to death. It will have died slowly, painfully and in utter terror. For engaging in its natural behaviour in its own habitat.

These creatures are endangered ffs. Not that it would be acceptable if they weren't! If you don't want to run the risk of being predated on by sea creatures, stay out of the fucking sea.

Am with you. Am shocked by attitudes here. If we were to be tortured to death for causing the deaths if other animals.... well none of us would be here
The shark did not eat that man out of vengeance. The people killed out of vengeance. Huuuge difference

Bananananananananana · 09/06/2023 19:15

Richvanilla · 09/06/2023 18:25

Jesus fucking christ. I hate this world.

"but the shark killed a human"... It was looking for food, in the place where it normally gets food. It has no idea humans are apparently on the "must not eat list" and it had absolutely no idea WHY it had been dragged out of his home and beaten repeatedly whilst also unable to breathe.

Ah yes, take that shark. Revenge has been served. We really are the worst of worst species on this planet.

SO TRUE

These people actually bandied together, pulled a shark out, and attacked it. They see it bloodied and writhing and feel no empathy for an animal doing what animals do.

Vile people, I doubt they did it to protect other people. It's their own desire to be horrid and torturous.

IComeLastInAllTheRaces · 09/06/2023 19:15

I wonder if it was a British tourist would people on this thread perhaps be a bit less blunt about shrugging it off as just nature and the food chain?

That to me seems extraordinarily unpleasant. Yes the shark was acting out of instinct (although the behaviour seems odd according to knowledgable shark people) and the shark was not trying to be malicious.

But a young man died in a horrible way literally screaming for his dad. I assume he was fully conscious a limb(s) was severed from his body.

I mean I hope the man went unconscious from blood loss in the warm water very quickly.

It is dehumanising to say oh, the poor shark was just trying to have a meal.

troubg · 09/06/2023 19:17

@deepdeepblue but it isn't normal behaviour...

And it's not arrogant to go in the sea & think it's unlikely to be eaten by a shark. I'm far more likely to be killed by a firework or a champagne cork. Does that mean i'm arrogant if I pop a bottle of champers or attend the school bonfire night 😆

deepdeepblue · 09/06/2023 19:17

GingerScallop · 09/06/2023 19:14

Am with you. Am shocked by attitudes here. If we were to be tortured to death for causing the deaths if other animals.... well none of us would be here
The shark did not eat that man out of vengeance. The people killed out of vengeance. Huuuge difference

One reassuring thing about this thread is that this seems to be the consensus, thank god.