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Shark Attack

525 replies

JayAlfredPrufrock · 09/06/2023 17:46

Nice to see that the shark that killed a swimmer in Egypt was caught and beaten to death on the beach.

<Slow handclap>

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ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 18:41

But other animals are killed when they attach eg bears, lions, crocodiles, snakes.

I don't agree with that either. We're part of nature. We're ultimately no more special than any of the above species. Besides if we want to save more lives there are probably 1000 things we could do that are more effective than killing even more sharks than we already do.

nebulae · 09/06/2023 18:41

Killing the shark prevents it from killing more humans

Humans are not more important than sharks. We have no more right to exist than they do. In fact the world would be a better place if there were more sharks and fewer humans. We're a despicable species and the sooner we're extinct the better it'll be for the planet and all the other creatures.

deepdeepblue · 09/06/2023 18:41

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:38

Shocker as shark engages in natural shark behaviour in known shark territory

It's not natural behaviour though...

It is when we have taken all their food!! Research how humans overfishing has impacted upon their natural behaviours.

Georgyporky · 09/06/2023 18:43

The report I read said that illegal dumping of meat/carcasses was probably a contributory factor.

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:43

@ClaraThePigeon as I said though it's quite normal. Whether that's right or wrong that's another question although I suppose there's nuance. I'm in the UK where we are very lucky to have no dangerous wildlife & my job doesn't depend on tourism.

I read an interesting article about the reintroduction of bears in France & some of the issues it has caused. I guess it's easier to see only one side when you are unaffected.

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 18:43

They'd also be better cracking down on the idiots who are encouraging them to come in to feed, if that's the case as was mentioned earlier.

Nothingisblackandwhite · 09/06/2023 18:43

Egypt shark attacks are their own making . They constantly feed them to show tourists ( they deny this but they do it all the time ) and sharks associate people with food .
poor shark

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:44

How abhorrent to kill a shark for doing shark things in a shark environment.

It's not normal behaviour though...

tillytoodles1 · 09/06/2023 18:45

I never go in the sea, its their territory, not mine. A few years ago we were in Florida and saw a shark fishing boat coming in with dead sharks hanging from a rack.
I presume it was done to protect the people going out on jetskis, as it would ruin their rental business if the sharks caught them.

Freefall212 · 09/06/2023 18:45

There is predator and prey throughout the animal world. shark killed human, humans killed shark. It’s the circle of life.

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:45

@Greensleeves but the victim had nothing to do with the revenge as he was dead. Did you think it through?
Also sharks & humans are not the same.

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:46

I remain unconvinced that a shark is doing anything more wrong by eating a human than it is by consuming a dolphin or other creature just because we're so staggeringly arrogant that we think we ought to be off menu and other species ought to know this.

So is it better when sharks are killed for human consumption? Tbh I have more issue with that.

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 18:46

I guess it's easier to see only one side when you are unaffected.

There are a considerable number of shark attack survivors who are passionate about shark conservancy.

We really need to get away from the idea that we are the only species who matters and the only species to whom the earth belongs.

youhavenoshameonyourface · 09/06/2023 18:47

StylishM · 09/06/2023 18:05

YANBU - it's the same as when Steve Irwin was killed by a stingray and people were killing them all over the world in 'retaliation'. In the name of a man who adored wildlife and advocated for their habitats...

Steve Irwin disrespected, mishandled and overpowered animals. He got what he deserved. He was an idiot, and the people who killed rays 'for' him are idiots.

halfsiesonapotnoodle · 09/06/2023 18:47

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:44

How abhorrent to kill a shark for doing shark things in a shark environment.

It's not normal behaviour though...

How is feeding on a mammal in the water not normal behaviour, FFS?

Scorchio84 · 09/06/2023 18:47

Egypt especially around Sharm El Sheik sadly has form for (mostly) fatal shark attacks due to their tourist industry, whereby operators encourage tourists to feed sharks or chum the waters themselves etc for that all important "wow factor" sharks then learn that humans equate easy food but can't distinguish between that & "normal" human behaviour in the water & this is the consequence. It's awful what happened to that young man & his family but as pp said it's not normal Tiger Shark behaviour so something obviously changed it's feeding habits... the way the shark was killed is barbaric & I'm not just saying that as a huge shark lover

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 18:47

So is it better when sharks are killed for human consumption? Tbh I have more issue with that.

I'm quite capable of being against both.

deepdeepblue · 09/06/2023 18:47

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:44

How abhorrent to kill a shark for doing shark things in a shark environment.

It's not normal behaviour though...

@troubg how not? It was hungry and found food, in the environment it lives in.

The arrogance of humans thinking we are not part of the food chain.

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:48

Humans are not more important than sharks. We have no more right to exist than they do. In fact the world would be a better place if there were more sharks and fewer humans. We're a despicable species and the sooner we're extinct the better it'll be for the planet and all the other creatures.

Do you have dc?

Greensleeves · 09/06/2023 18:48

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:45

@Greensleeves but the victim had nothing to do with the revenge as he was dead. Did you think it through?
Also sharks & humans are not the same.

The victim chose to swim in the sea in a climate where there are known to be sharks. Anyone who swims in the ocean takes risks. That's not "victim-blaming", it's just a fact. To drag the shark out of the water and beat it to death is disgusting.

Quite right, sharks and humans are not the same. Sharks belong in the sea, for one thing. They only kill for food, for another.

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 18:49

Egypt especially around Sharm El Sheik sadly has form for (mostly) fatal shark attacks due to their tourist industry, whereby operators encourage tourists to feed sharks or chum the waters themselves etc for that all important "wow factor" sharks then learn that humans equate easy food but can't distinguish between that & "normal" human behaviour in the water & this is the consequence.

It's absolutely insane. As usual it's humans who fuck everything up and other animals who pay the price.

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:49

It is when we have taken all their food!! Research how humans overfishing has impacted upon their natural behaviours.

lol, I have a marine environmental degree, I understand overfishing & the impact of it. Doesn't mean I'm happy to get eaten by a shark!

Dooopylally · 09/06/2023 18:50

Richvanilla · 09/06/2023 18:25

Jesus fucking christ. I hate this world.

"but the shark killed a human"... It was looking for food, in the place where it normally gets food. It has no idea humans are apparently on the "must not eat list" and it had absolutely no idea WHY it had been dragged out of his home and beaten repeatedly whilst also unable to breathe.

Ah yes, take that shark. Revenge has been served. We really are the worst of worst species on this planet.

Was it revenge, or protection?
I would imagine a bit of both.

Saschka · 09/06/2023 18:50

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 09/06/2023 18:35

Did anyone tell the Egyptian sharks that the creatures swimming where their prey does, but wearing skimpy clothes, are strictly off-limits for food?

How abhorrent to kill a shark for doing shark things in a shark environment.

Shark prey doesn’t live in shallow waters - these are pelagic sharks. Shouldn’t be near the shore at all. Something has attracted it.

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:51

The report I read said that illegal dumping of meat/carcasses was probably a contributory factor.

This is a big problem. I eat meat & fish occasionally though so would be a complete hypocrite to be "the poor shark" when my actions are part of the problem.

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