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Shark Attack

525 replies

JayAlfredPrufrock · 09/06/2023 17:46

Nice to see that the shark that killed a swimmer in Egypt was caught and beaten to death on the beach.

<Slow handclap>

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troubg · 09/06/2023 20:54

Egypt!

troubg · 09/06/2023 20:55

They're near threatened.

yes which is not the same as endangered..

As a class, sharks are in dire circumstances due to humans. We should leave them the hell alone.

I can't see fishing going away tbh.

youhavenoshameonyourface · 09/06/2023 20:57

My opinion is completely unchanged. We are made of meat. And there are plenty of us to go around.

I agree. It's been way too long since we had any natural predators.

baloosbaloos · 09/06/2023 20:57

@Bananananananananana the reality the shark may then have to face in its turn is brutal retaliatory killing. Law of nature works both ways. Humans are predators. I’m not endorsing that broadly speaking, but it seems a bit unrealistic to expect that not to apply in this quite extreme and specific case. “Accept that sharks will simply kill you, it is their nature”. Why not accept then in turn that a mob of angry shaken heartbroken people who have witnessed a horrific shark attack will kill the shark in question? There may be sharks on Sharksnet posting vociferously in defence of them right now…

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:01

Collectively, yes we do. We think we can swim in the sea and forget that danger exists. I can't see how you can deny this, when this is quite literally what happened to this man. We're sold a lie that the sea is all ice cream, surfing and sandy beaches.

Who is sold a lie? Most people have heard about sharks & shark attacks however most people know the likelihood of being attacked let alone killed is tiny. Of course people don't think it will happen to them hence why we get into cars, go on tubes, planes etc. It doesn't mean people are living in a fantasy world & you're more enlightened because you know the sharks are out there.

In other parts of Africa that I've visited, people don't go in the sea. You don't see the locals swimming in or really anywhere near the water.

Whereas parts I've visited they have no other option. Either way that's irrelevant as lots of people swim in the Red Sea, it's a tourist destination.

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 09/06/2023 21:02

Humans are responsible for about 100 million shark deaths each year.
A small handful of those were man eaters.
If you want to campaign for shark rights, I'd stick to the other 99,999,994

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:03

I agree. It's been way too long since we had any natural predators.

Do you want to bring back dinosaurs & then we can be gobbled up?

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 21:03

Humans are responsible for about 100 million shark deaths each year.
A small handful of those were man eaters.
If you want to campaign for shark rights, I'd stick to the other 99,999,994

Believe it or not it's perfectly possible to give a shit about both.

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:04

If you want to campaign for shark rights, I'd stick to the other 99,999,994

Harder to pontificate about those ones though.

baloosbaloos · 09/06/2023 21:05

@ClaraThePigeon and yet, going to bat so passionately for a man-eating shark may cause the shark-agnostic to be LESS receptive to your shark activism!

Bananananananananana · 09/06/2023 21:05

baloosbaloos · 09/06/2023 20:57

@Bananananananananana the reality the shark may then have to face in its turn is brutal retaliatory killing. Law of nature works both ways. Humans are predators. I’m not endorsing that broadly speaking, but it seems a bit unrealistic to expect that not to apply in this quite extreme and specific case. “Accept that sharks will simply kill you, it is their nature”. Why not accept then in turn that a mob of angry shaken heartbroken people who have witnessed a horrific shark attack will kill the shark in question? There may be sharks on Sharksnet posting vociferously in defence of them right now…

I get your point, but humans impact is so disproportionate. We kill everything and invade every habitat.

If this was 1000 years ago, and some people killed a shark, it would still be brutal, but that would be more natural in a way.

But here, we already ruin shark habitats, overfish, use nets. Now we encroach on the ocean that isn't our habitat for recreation. And then kill the animals. There's an injustice to it.

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:05

@baloosbaloos I wonder if we can buy tote bags with that message. I will take it to the fishmongers 😆

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 21:06

Harder to pontificate about those ones though.

Fucking hell. Is it really so beyond your limited imagination to consider that some of us are already concerned about shark conservation generally?

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:06

There may be sharks on Sharksnet posting vociferously in defence of them right now…

🤣🤣

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:08

@Bananananananananana Now we encroach on the ocean that isn't our habitat for recreation.

Why isn't the ocean our habitat for recreation though? Is the sky ok?

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 21:08

and yet, going to bat so passionately for a man-eating shark may cause the shark-agnostic to be LESS receptive to your shark activism!

Shark-agnostics? Are there people out there who doubt that sharks exist now? It's not a fucking religion. Also some people's minds aren't worth trying to change because there's so little to work with. Some are a lost cause.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 09/06/2023 21:09

RunningUpThatMill · 09/06/2023 20:21

It's very different from putting a dangerous dog down. Not many people would advocate for beating a dangerous dog to death.

Well, only thick cunts would advocate for it, that’s correct. Gunning for my second ever deletion - for identifying thick cunts out in the wild, apparently……

schnubbins · 09/06/2023 21:10

I have been to Egypt once . It will stay that way.

Bananananananananana · 09/06/2023 21:10

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:08

@Bananananananananana Now we encroach on the ocean that isn't our habitat for recreation.

Why isn't the ocean our habitat for recreation though? Is the sky ok?

You're hard work, aren't you @troubg 😂

Bananananananananana · 09/06/2023 21:10

*lighthearted!

Itisyourturntowashthebath · 09/06/2023 21:10

@ClaraThePigeon your campaign to save sharks that kill humans is going to be about as productive as the campaign you are no doubt about to start to save dogs that kill humans.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 09/06/2023 21:11

Datafan55 · 09/06/2023 20:37

Although, as PPs have said, I too have always quite fancied going to Egypt, however will always remember this incident and be put off.

Egypt is a fascinating country with amazing history , DH and I went 25 years ago but I would never set foot there again due to the vile treatment of the working horses and donkeys . Those adverts on the TV aren't the half of it .
Brooke are a charity that works tirelessly in education and treatment of equines .

Egypt relies heavily on tourists so leaving a shark that killed in the water isn't going to entice people . Clubbing it to death though was inhumane .

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:12

100%!! I think it's an interesting question though & Im interested why you think humans shouldn't use the ocean for recreation? We use just about every other habitat. I would argue it's quiet human to do so.

ClaraThePigeon · 09/06/2023 21:12

ClaraThePigeon your campaign to save sharks that kill humans is going to be about as productive as the campaign you are no doubt about to start to save dogs that kill humans.

Did you buy that sack of bullshit from the farmer or do you just regurgitate it freely?

troubg · 09/06/2023 21:12

lighthearted

I know 😉