Rainbows everywhere 🌈

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Maybe I am being unreasonable. Not sure.

But I clicked on my linkedIn profile today and two massive rainbows stuck out at me! Looks like two of my previous workplaces have changed their logos to the rainbow flag.

Now, I'm in support of individuals wearing rainbow badges if they want to publically show they are allies of LGBTQ+ Even a few colleagues have put the rainbow on their email signature. That's cool with me.

But I don't know how I feel about whole workplaces replacing their company logo with a rainbow? Seems like rainbows are taking over the world.

I guess maybe it doesn't matter but I can't help but think it's a bit weird that whole institutions are now becoming activists and replacing their identity with rainbows which to me, makes a statement?

Not sure whether and what I'm being unreasonable about, but just wondered other people's thoughts really?

When is "Europe Pride"?
You know ME is big?
In some ME countries they have pride events, plus homosexuality is not illegal in whole ME.

It has only been 55 years since legalisation in UK. Realistically, people can't expect whole world to follow everything UK or US (where it took until 200something) does asap.

Btw months differ even within western countries.

@HelpmePleaseAndThankyou

Why should a patent and their children be bullied (as that is what is going on at work and school) into having the slightest interest in a gender identity or sex life of others, it's creepy.

Where is the tolerance for someone disgusted by anal sex which is difficult for children, for women especially as we have a high disgust threshold, and tolerance for religious people or tolerance for contrarians who don't want to 'celebrate ' random strangers sex lives or demands of others spoken/written language, not easy for the disabled, old or EASL either?!

Where to start with this.... no one is being "bullied" into having interest in anyone's sex life. Tolerance of people because of their sexual orientation is nothing to do with interest in the mechanics of someone's sex life.

Your comment about people being "disgusted by anal sex" is very telling here. You make a lot of sweeping assumptions here which are inaccurate and pretty bigoted. Anal sex is a) not relevant to or of interest to large numbers of gay people and b) not limited to gay people. Why do you assume that anal sex is a critical part of this narrative? This is your bias.

And why should tolerance be extended to people who are "disgusted" by what people do in consenting relationships in the privacy of their homes anyway?

Tolerance of religious people is not equivalent to tolerance of gay people anyway. Gay people were for centuries not afforded tolerance in our society (until the 1960s or 1970s homosexual acts were illegal in Britain and there is still significant intolerance in some parts of society). I'm not sure what faith you are referring to (I'm going to take a guess that its Christianity but I may be wrong). But Christianity is the established religion of Britain. It may be marginalised in society but to claim there is no tolerance of religion in Britain is ridiculous.

What has anal sex got to do with pride and rainbows?

Deal with how? What do you want to happen?

Speaking as a gay woman, this is my feeling. I saw several companies appear on my Facebook timeline with rainbows on/replacing their logos and found myself rolling my eyes.

I'm also going to say that "Pride month" confuses me, because Pride events (eg Manchester, where I used to live) happen at times outside it.

Have you any evidence of global organisations changing their logos of any of their Middle East based departments changing to any rainbow flags at all?

Is there ever any evidence of any of these organisations promoting people who are not trans during this month?

Do you know the origins of these flags flying this month?

Whg is everyone concentrating on ME only when the orgs didn't change logos in number of countries including European ones?

That's not true.
Marsha P Johnson was a gay man and is on film saying so. He also wasn't there at the beginning of the riot. Stop retroactively transing people in order to suit your agenda.

https://twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1636703291647115269

https://news.sky.com/story/doctors-reluctance-to-discuss-anal-sex-is-letting-down-young-women-researchers-warn-12671027

Why is any discussion or safeguarding now associated with having an irrational fear of hate? I see this with Phillip Schofield too.

Completely agree with the majority of the comments here. It's virtue signalling and rainbow washing.

The T doesn't even believe in biological sex, therefore it's the complete opposite to what the LGB represents. How can you be gay or a lesbian if biology doesn't exist and it's all about your "gender identity"?? You can't!!

And Marsha P Johnson was a self identifying gay transvestite not a transwoman!

I wonder how many of these companies actually support the LGB community, other than sticking rainbows everywhere.

The main reason people are boycotting Target is not because of Pride merchandise, it was the sale of chest binders for girls and tuck friendly underwear.

Why is everyone concentrating on ME
Deflection, innit.

Because instead of concentrating on areas where it is hard to support gay and lesbian people, where they can be killed for it, they just change a logo in the UK and shove a drag queen on their social media and job done.

It is very easy virtue signalling. I've been in organisations that rainbow washed for a few weeks, whilst their actual gay employees are bullied and HR do fuck all about it.

It is all bollocks.

Except it is very rare that companies do post about women on that day. Most companies ignore the day, if they're even aware it exists. And if they do comment, it is always in the way that they bring men into it by telling us men can be women too.

Why are you making this all about anal sex? You seem obsessed with this topic. Are you aware that anal sex is not a prerequisite for a gay relationship and that it is practiced in many heterosexual relationships?

Anal sex is completely irrelevant to the question of whether companies should celebrate tolerance of gay people.

Not going back over the question of whether rainbow washing is useful or not but these attitudes are in large part why people feel the need to state their tolerance of gay people. You might find if you educated yourself a bit there would be less need for people to explicitly demonstrate solidarity.

The message that only gender identity attraction is valid, and same-sex attraction is "Sexual Racism", as the head of Stonewall says about homosexuality, is. Gender Ideology is inherently homophobic which is why LGB people want out of the LGBTQ+. @GrammarTeacher

Brace yourself, OP. It'll be like this all month. Most of it performative.

@Julioop You've been lied to. It was initiated by a black male drag queen who identified as male. Marsha was their drag name stage name only. They weren't trans, and were male and identified as such. Please stop the homophobic transing away of gay history.

As a bi woman, I couldn't agree more with this.

If you try and support your trans child, then that can lead to legal issues

And that is a 'bad' thing, @cakeorwine ? Say one parent wants to trans their child (and no one is born in the wrong body, we should be teaching body positivity and acceptance, not advocating sterilisation and operations that remove organs and breasts), the other parent is a responsible parent who knows no one is born in the wrong body and urges caution, watchful waiting, etc. The second parent is the one being responsible and advocating against harming a child. I'm pro LGB, pro-choice re abortion, pro-Republc, am a left wing voter etc, yet Florida has it right on this issue, protecting children and advocating against harm. There is no such thing as a 'trans child'. No child is born in the wrong body. Trans children are like vegan cats: we all know who is making the decision in both cases, and it's not the child.

Im gay and I absolutely hate it.

The LGB had a pride day, The rest of the WiFi password that can't go five seconds without being validated demanded the month, and of course was given it because its a cynical cash cow for corporations to merchandise rainbow themed tat.

Personally, I think the LGB spent long enough being criminalised, fired, bloodied in the street and spat at for who they loved for decades enough to take a day to celebrate equality, which is all we ever fought for. Nothing additional and nothing out of the ordinary.

Pride in its current form has been appropriated largely by aggressive and homophobic heterosexuals who think that their daily changing "identities" make them both "the most oppressed" and therefore "the most vocal" under the alphabet banner which has precious little to do with the LGB anymore.

Pride now caters to that demographic, not homosexuals.
Actual homosexuals have been removed, sometimes violently from Pride events for statements like "Lesbians dont have penises" or wearing LGB Alliance T shirts.
Same sex attraction is referred to as "bigotry" "a genital fetish" and a "transphobic dog whistle" by those who now occupy centre stage through sheer obnoxiousness and pandering.

There are loads of LGBs who absolutely hate it and go out of their way to avoid brands that promote it. The forced teaming is imploding quite spectacularly.

It's an embarrasment.

YANBU.

The following is a quote from Fred Sargeant who was co-founder of Pride.

"Pride has morphed from a public gathering of LGBs to commemorate an event and promote liberation, to a month long cultish, paraphilic, commercialized ritual that commences annually with The Great Transing. I dread this month."

I couldn't agree more.

❤️ Beautifully said.

What absolutely raises my hackles is when men say they “Identify as Lesbian”.
Heterosexual males who are sexually attracted to women.

Aggressive heterosexuals have indeed taken over Pride.

No not on mumsnet. You have to be one extreme or the other. It’s the rules.

I don’t feel very strongly about companies putting rainbows on their logos. I grew up in Brighton and a whole bunch of pubs and other businesses flew rainbow flags outside to show that they were cool with gay people being themselves - although I will say that, if they weren’t, they were in the wrong town.

I do feel strongly about companies doing this (or putting up massive things about how sad they are about the Queen dying) while cutting their services to all their customers. My bank has closed down loads of their smaller branches and has cut the counter service in Brighton so it stops at 2pm (and isn’t open at all at the weekend). The result is that, at times, people have to queue for an hour to speak to a person.

I expect all businesses to be inclusive of their staff and customers, regardless of whether they choose to fly the rainbow flag. I also expect them to do the thing they exist to do - provide a sensible service.

Not being funny, but rainbows don't solely belong to the Pride brigade. Kids love rainbows. Rainbows are actually a Christian symbol of God's promise as well.