ParkRun and Transgender record breaker

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Trans runner (M to F) has smashed a woman’s record. Turns out he’s an attempted murderer too.

He attempted to murder the HR Manager of U.K. Athletics after he investigated his eligibility to compete as a woman. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Jeska )

I have enjoyed Parkrun on several occasions with my children, I’ll not be doing it again until they get this sorted. If at all.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/22/parkrun-self-id-male-runners-smash-womens-records/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/23/transgender-murder-parkrun/

kettle transwomen hold more than one women's parkrun course records. Women are very unlikely to ever beat those times. In time transwomen will hold all of them. The data will be worthless.
Parkrun need to delete the records held by transwomen.

Yeah many of us know that jeska was cheating in women's fell running races for years. And then he went on a premeditated murderous rampage when he thought he would be found out as a cheat.

Parkrun should follow U.K. athletics and Olympics lead. No men in women's sports.

Ask Ralph Knibbs if he would describe his attempted murder as a tragedy. I'm sure he'd come up with a different word.

Seems a very easy thing to fix, if they wanted to.
New rule - same as everyone else (cycling is lost to us, rowing looks dodgy but the rest are seeing sense). Remove record beating records of known transwomen as they are reported, or rather, move them to the correct category by biological sex.

This male was utterly unhinged, but also unfortunately an example of where violent threats by transactivists can end up - attempted murder of those who refuse to collude.

Oh I remember this guy from back when I believed what I read in the Guardian!! It was one of the pieces of inaccurate reporting that got me wondering wtf was going on. I was fascinated that a woman could commit such a male crime. If they'd reported truthfully I may not have even looked. I don't have time to read about all the crime men commit every day.

Of course parkrun is important, as is all amateur sport. More important in my opinion, because more people do it. Of course parkrun now offering only a fair competition to males is discriminatory against women. Of course it shouldn't need policing, there's absolutely no reason trans people should behave any differently from any other human. And of course you should feel free to boycott. Many people choose to boycott unethical organisations.

And of course people will try and minimise and ridicule your decision. Because social shaming is the only way to keep the heretics in line.

She doesn't want to make it acceptable and normalised, and cares about women's right, thank god for the intelligent and selfless people that are able to take a stance. This selfish why do you care attitude as in your post is exactly why we end up living with this shit, if it wasn't for people like her you'd be confined to a kitchen and and floor scrubbing all your life. Stop bring a sheep.

Yes of course but Parkrun could easily have a trans category, exclude TW from results where complaints made and upheld that a trans woman has run as female.

Unfortunately, many amateur sports do little to stop TW competing against females.

They don’t have parkruns women’s record. Melissa Courtney-Bryant does, who is definitely a biological woman.
If you’re going to go on an anti trans rant at lest fact check your sources

This person is the fastest at one parkrun event, it seems.

The actual record holder is Melissa Courtney-Bryant, who is around 2 minutes faster.

Parkrun is however deliberately inclusive as a matter of policy.

If you want events where England Athletics rules apply, then you'll have to choose one of the (many) others

Ridiculous. This man should have his "record" stripped. Can someone start a petition? I am usually top 5 woman, i would be very disappointed to be knocked down because a man decides to say he is a woman but still has the advantage of being male.

Every sport should not allow biological men to compete as women. It's ridiculous.

It is still a woman's record.

Just because you're asked to input your information yourself doesn't mean that ParkRun don't mind you putting in incorrect information. You're asked to declare your own information, not make it up.

I am asked to 'self-ID' my date of birth dozens of times a year. None of them make me also scan my birth certificate. That doesn't mean its on to make one up. They're asking people to enter the truth. Would ParkRun support 20 year olds entering the junior ParkRun?

ParkRun need to ask participants for their sex. Their actual sex. And their actual date of birth. Yes, some men will lie and put female, but at least then, everyone is clear that they are cheating.

The falsehood that the records don't matter and its not a race is completely disingenuous, and another lie, because of that were true they wouldn't publish the times, position, position by (sex) category, grading based on your age and sex, course records for male and female every week within an hour of the 'not-a-race'. Those matter, and ParkRun know they matter. Women are, as always, the ones who lose out.

And 'Lauren Jeska' isn't the only man holding women's ParkRun records in the UK.

I'm also quite pissed off to hear this male is in a women's prison. Poor bloody women with nowhere to go to escape a person who would try to kill you if you disagreed with them on their biology.

How is it "deliberately inclusive as a matter of policy" if it has categories?

Categories exclude. That's the point of them.

ParkRun cannot have this both ways.

If it's a friendly inclusive jog then don't time it, publish positions, or ask people for their age and DOB.

But they do. So they have categories, and recognise the importance of those categories, while discriminating against women.

In answer to my previous question about how Ralph Knibbs would describe being stabbed by Jeska: Mr Knibbs told the court at the time that the "traumatic, life-changing experience" had robbed him of his independence.

So no, he wouldn't use the word tragedy to describe it.

You're fuxking kidding me.

Get men the fuxk out of female prisons.

This is where the people that cannot see an issue with the Parkrun matter don't look at how these things can snowball. You end up with men in women's prisons!!!!!

It needs to stop at all levels.

Cis means you identify as a woman. Most women don't. They're just women because of biology. So no that doesn't work.

Great point about the knock on effect of the women he is excluding.

They're not inclusive if they're excluding women are they?

Don't dare call me cis. I am a WOMAN

How is this person still in a women's prison??? I thought that when the Adam Graham/Isla Bryson case erupted, Dominic Raab said that no TW who had been convicted of a sexual or violent crime would continue to be housed in a women's prison in England - and that this would apply to both those TW with and without a GRC. Surely under these criteria this person should not be in a women's prison??

@Quinoawoman HE! He is in prison

I’m a GC parkrunning woman. Parkrun is a run, not a race, and organised by kind hearted volunteers. I suspect most of those objecting have no idea what parkrun is actually like. If a transwoman finished ahead of me, and was listed as female, I’d just roll my eyes at their self deception. All I care about is my PB.

I think parkrun should probably scrap course records and maybe do away with places, just listing finishers alphabetically. That way people (mainly non-parkrunners) would stop obsessing about records and the rest of us could just enjoy parkrun as it was intended: a non-competitive, run in the park with a friendly bunch of people.

Except she doesn’t hold the parkrun record. Not even close. Her fastest time is 17:18, which whilst very swift, is nearly two minutes slower than the women’s parkrun record. What a load of nonsense that’s easily fact checked.

https://www.parkrun.org.uk/results/athleteresultshistory/?athleteNumber=168567

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkrun#:~:text=in%20any%20region.-,Individual%20running%20records,Beach%20Parkrun%20near%20Adelaide%2C%20Australia.

It’s just not true. What is the consequence for journalists who write things that just aren’t true?