To tell pronoun announcing recruiter I don't want the job

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Had a call with a recruiter today- clearly female name, pic on linked in clearly female & then at start of call she announced 'my pronouns are she/her, may I ask what yours are?'... I mean she was polite, but it just seemed ridiculously performative (I too am clearly female) & has made me question if I want to work for this organisation. I have nothing against trans people etc I just really bristle with all the over the top performative stuff.. Am I just totally out of touch? My current company does not have any kind of stance in this area which I guess is terrible if you are one to name their pronouns..tbh I've got enough shit going on to have to explain my preferred pronouns to everyone I meet!

A friend of mine is non-binary they/them.
From looks & voice, most people would assume female, as I did initially.
I personally find announcing pronouns or having them on an email footer a bit weird - but if it makes some people feel more comfortable & accepted, then why not?
Just state she/her and move on.

Not really. Unintentional and by no means do I purport to be a scholar. No point in trying to pick apart my response. I'm only stating my opinion and not here to fight you.

I think breathing might even be....

& I once had the pronoun conversation with someone at a conference - he'd worked with someone who insisted their pronoun was Fox.

I was in the process of applying for a job role when this question appeared on the application form. There was no way of leaving it blank, or an option not to say.

I stopped the application at that point.

It would definitely put me off working for a company, just as pronoun BS has put me off hiring people. I like people/organisations that are actually capable of critical thinking.

You say "my name is clearly female" but nowadays it is hard to tell. At my workplace we have people from many different cultures and many of the names are not familiar to me. The pronoun thing can be helpful.

It clearly didn’t make her feel comfortable though.

This is the second pronoun thread Ive seen started tonight 😕
YANBU to not want to, that's up to you.
I personally wouldn't give a crap though, I'd just say she /her as I'm a woman and that's also how I self identify.

So a "clearly female" name is probably something like Samantha or Natalie. No matter how man staff members there are with African, Asian, Middle Eastern or Slavic names, that's not going to make it suddenly "hard to tell nowadays" that a feminine looking woman called Rebecca is female.

Don't be silly @Waitwhat23 - everyone knows women's rights are transphobic. No one cares about what women need, at least not the biological ones.

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During my next recruitment drive I’ll be sure to ask this question to put off all the small minded/bigoted applicants 😂

Fight you? I (politely) commented on your post, on a discussion board. One that is mainly populated by women, on a thread where various posters have mentioned the disadvantage to women when they are compelled to state their pronouns. Women's rights are entirely relevant. You didn't mention them. I found it interesting.

What's now interesting is that you have jumped to 'fight you'.

I don't get the pronoun stuff

Cant rhe recruiter just look at your passport and application form?

I've interviewed thousands of people and i think one was trans. It was obvious as the passport was Mr and Cv said Ms

I'd prefer that over trying to control what pronouns other people use when I'm not there. It's hardly a big deal is it?

If they were called the shortened version of Sam instead of Samuel or Samantha, it shows can clearly be male or female, so your example there shows how pronouns would actually be helpful in some cases

Oh come on now, you want to repel talented applicants just because they have no sense that their gender needs signposting? Seriously?

Yep, but many people struggle with mental illnesses and have a job. Why is this different?

If they were called the shortened version of Sam instead of Samuel or Samantha, it shows can clearly be male or female, so your example there shows how pronouns would actually be helpful in some cases

But OP clearly is not using a unisex diminutive. Hence her saying that her sex is obvious from her name.

You might not care being called he all the time, I certainly would

It’s not the saying it’s the remembering and the abuse if you forget

Allegations of transphobia when the actions clearly are not phobic at all but simply women refusing to be exploited by men - who knew?!

I see your point. However, no one says you have to believe their stated identity. All you have to do is address a person by the way want to be addressed.

No, actually, I don't have to. I may choose to if I want to. And I have done, for example when I'm addressing a troubled young person with genuine dysphoria. I might not choose to if I were addressing or referring to a man who transitioned in order to be placed in a woman’s prison, or who uses access to women's spaces to validate his kink, or to take a woman's place in a female sporting event, or one who makes threats to feminists online. Or who tries to control and restrict the language women use to talk about themselves, their bodies and their experience of being a woman. Or even just one who demands that I call him a woman.

I know , I was responding to the example given of samantha.