Why so much fuss over Stella Braverman?

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I’m just wondering who on earth cares? Can’t understand why this is such big news.

Because she's a woman of colour trying to get a handle on immigration, which has made the lefties (labour) practically implode. So in desperation a tabloid drag up some year old story about a speeding ticket, for which she paid the fine and took the points when she was told she couldn't do a private course to save face. Kier Starmer has got wind of this, cum in his pants and called for her immediate resignation.

@Janiie ”weasley civil servants”, well you’ve pinned your colours to the mast haven’t you? Yes blame the civil servants not the total pricks they currently have the misery of working for. She’s a fucking lawyer she would have known full well she wasn’t allowed to do it. She’s a dick. No fucking sympathy.

@amylou8 yes of course. That’s exactly it 🙄

Exactly.

Because she is the person in charge of law and order in this country and has tried to squirm her way out of the very justice which she has been appointed to uphold and is paid a fortune to do so! Surely that much is obvious?

@Janiie since you mention cake, have you worked out yet why it was acceptable for a 56 year old to have a birthday party whilst denying that opportunity to millions of children?

@Janiie do you have a list of laws that it is acceptable for people to break, or does it only apply to Tory politicans?

Exactly.

She seems to think that HO civil servants are her personal PAs, ffs.

And asking if she can claim the fine back on expenses, when she gets paid salaries of £150k+ is bloody disgraceful.

I have to drive for my job and tried to claim a speeding fine through my expenses, my manager would be sending my claim back with a note saying "Nice try, Lakie, but you're taking the piss."

I'm curious to know if the speeding offence occurred while she was driving on official business, too. I was under the impression that ministers of state had their own drivers. If she wanted to claim for a fine incurred when she was trying to get to Tesco before it shut, that's even worse.

I reckon she might already have a few points on her licence and that's why she was keen to take the course instead. She may be getting close to the 12 point limit.

mmmmm i don't think so because the pressure originally came from the Tory press, which seem to dislike her because of a lack of loyalty to Sunak.

However, a HS cannot be seen to be above the law, 1 2 1 speed awareness courses are not a thing, she should know this and shouldn't using the Civil Service to get herself special treatment, her special adviser also lied to the press and denied she'd even got a speeding ticket, the SPAD is supposed to abide by the ministerial code and reports direct to SB, they wouldn't do that sort of thing on their own.

As to your other remarks about Starmer, pretty disgusting but typical of the sort of right wing voter nowadays who often struggle to put across a coherent argument to why they still support this Government.

Oh I do hope that our resident cutnpastova expert comes along to join the party.
What I don't understand though is that by bringing up parties again, they just remind everyone of how awful the Tories are.

so does she have a separate PA then? I assumed her PA as Home Secretary would be a civil servant? Where is it confirmed that she asked for the fine to be paid on expenses?

Was her SPAD denying there was a speeding offence when asked by the Mirror 3 months ago not an attempt at a cover up? Or do her special advisors routinely deny things without checking? If the latter is the case will the SPAD be sacked?

Duh, I didn't realise that the course was just instead of the fine, I thought it let you off the points too.

It's interesting to see how many people think that a breach of the ministerial code is unimportant. Do people really have such low standards in public life that they think these rules don't need to be followed?

Civil servants do not exist to help ministers deal with personal matters. We can deduce from the fact that she asked them to get involved in her personal matters that either she does not understand the ministerial or she thinks it is OK to breach it. Either of those possibilities is quite worrying to me.

Sadly, Boris Johnson set the bar so very low with his law breaking that people no longer seem to expect government ministers to act with basic integrity and in the public interest. It's quite shocking when you actually stop and think about how low we have sunk.

I don’t think she did much wrong. She wants asking to be let off, she asked if she could do it privately. The first lot said ‘don’t know and we can’t help you’ so she asked someone else to find out and the answer was no, which she accepted.

I don’t blame her. We all know it’s highly likely that someone in the room would’ve taken a picture of her and sold it to the tabloids.

Do you really need this explained to you?

No wonder we have such dodgy politicians if this is the level of political literacy we have in this country...

It's mostly because she's not white.

Its mostly because like most of the rest of the Tory’s, she has a very dubious relationship with the truth, a massive sense of entitlement and a seriously unreliable moral compass.

That may well be the case, so pay the fine or better still, don't speed? its quite easy to avoid a speeding penalty.

Op do you know who she is and what job she does?

She was the Attorney General when this happened, she is now Home Secretary, one of the highest ministerial positions. She has broken the ministerial code 3 times now.

She isn’t fit to do the job. And has shown that repeatedly. Dismayed that so many seem so eager to dismiss it, is this really what we will accept?

You're missing the point. It wasn't the job of publicly funded civil servants to sort out her personal issues.

She could have done it on zoom like other people I know. You still have to pay for the course . It depends on the provider- around £80 to £100.

She's not that bright, really.

I gather it has been difficult to 'bring her down' to date, other than through these kinds of stories.

Sunak has been an idiot protecting her for so long after he won leadership. Just goes to show the nutters still have power within the bloody Tories.

It does get you off the fine and the points - but the cost of the course is not dissimilar to the fine.

Disclaimer: don't know anything about her politics

Fucking hell.