Page 6 | To not understand what Philip Scofield did wrong?

redroseq · 2023-05-20T19:20:26+00:00

I’m not a fan of Phil or Holly and have never watched This Morning. However, I’ve read about the issues the show has been facing in the news recently and am at a loss to understand why Phil had to step down. What did he actually do wrong? I know his brother has been imprisoned for a heinous crime but obviously that’s nothing to do with Phil. So I don’t understand why he decided to resign.

SeaWitchly · 20/05/2023 23:25

Both Phil and Hol are a pair of wrong 'uns.,, for all the reasons stated above but I was massively turned off the pair of them for the blatant bias demonstrated in the general election. They hectored the leader of the Labour party, Jeremy Corbyn, and then cosied up with Boris Johnson taking selfies. Manipulative, fame hungry, sycophants the pair of them.

SueVineer · 20/05/2023 23:28

redroseq · 20/05/2023 20:29

And how does anyone know for a fact that he was aware of what his brother did but didn’t go to the police? That seems unlikely?!

a letter he wrote was read out to the court- I believe it said pretty much that

JMSA · 20/05/2023 23:30

Neither Philip nor Holly have integrity, ie doing the right thing when no-one else is watching.
Annoying thing is, bad publicity is better than none, so more people are probably watching the show than ever.

Saucemonkey · 20/05/2023 23:34

redroseq · 20/05/2023 20:29

And how does anyone know for a fact that he was aware of what his brother did but didn’t go to the police? That seems unlikely?!

Philip schofield admitted this. His brother told him and his reply was “don’t do this again”. He did not report to the police but said he would if it happened again.

Mirabai · 20/05/2023 23:39

LizzieSiddal · 20/05/2023 23:16

CreepyDibillo · Today 21:44

Nailed it. I have been told by a very reliable source that once HW found out about the brother she was angry with PS for knowingly putting her kids at risk.

I can understand that but Holly wasn’t at all bothered about PS’s alleged relationship with his young runner/PA who he had known since he was 12. And she can’t deny knowing about it because it was all over the internet at the time. Instead of being concerned about it she did the “coming out” interview with him.

Why are women the gatekeepers of mens behaviour and why should they be tainted by their misdemeanours/crimes?

I’m not sure what she could have done about the runner story, it’s unlikely she had all the facts about it, just rumour like everyone else.

Women have to work with completely revolting men on a daily basis - should they all resign and sacrifice their careers because of it?

Florenz · 20/05/2023 23:47

I don't know why This Morning is still on. Who exactly watched it? SAHMs and the unemployed and elderly?

SargentSagittarius · 20/05/2023 23:51

Florenz · 20/05/2023 23:47

I don't know why This Morning is still on. Who exactly watched it? SAHMs and the unemployed and elderly?

Of which there are millions?

RobertaFirmino · 20/05/2023 23:52

Do we know for certain that Schofield lied to his wife for all those years? Has she actually said anything about it or has she stayed silent?
It's just that Schofield being gay isn't all that surprising to me. It is entirely possible that his wife was a 'beard' who knew all about him being gay.

justasking111 · 20/05/2023 23:55

FantasticMax · 20/05/2023 20:31

I don’t think Holly comes out of this very well either. Just someone who’ll cut ties if the person can no longer serve them well. Not defending Philip at all - but she seems ruthless and self serving and this has damaged her brand regardless.

I wondered that too

Bouledeneige · 20/05/2023 23:56

I confess I'm not a viewer of the show. I don't personally believe PS or HW are responsible for his brother's behaviour. My understanding was that Philip was a mean bully and diva and did not treat people with respect on the production team. That's enough for me - and that goes for Ellen and all the others. TV does not confer godlike status and if it did you'd be beneficent and kind to the nth degree.

Chickenballsandcheese · 20/05/2023 23:56

This is what I genuinely hate about the media, the absolute shit storm of rumours.
If it's true, PS was told by his brother the boy was 16, gross but of age. He cut ties when he discovered the truth according to what he said in court.
The Queens coffin, sure they weren't the only media there but others aren't in the firing line of the press or public? And David Beckham is a hero for been patient?
He came out as gay, many people do it, even when they've been married. If you believe the press his wife (yup still married) supports him.
Phil and holly fall out. Shock horror!!! People can fall out, grow apart etc.
Rumours of grooming the runner are just rumours. Until it's proven, it's just click bait. Maybe David Beckham can give us a few hints on been patient till the proof of the super injunction are actually provided. I've read about it, see videos about it etc never actually seen a copy of the proof it exists.

I'm not even a this morning fan, it's all a bit dull but I bloody hate the media. It fires out rumours as gospel. If you see it enough you start believing it.

SilentParrot · 20/05/2023 23:56

Fern Britton won't be feeling too sad for old Phil.

Aaaaandbreathe · 20/05/2023 23:57

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/05/2023 22:53

I don’t think there’s anything misogynistic in thinking that HW is problematic too. Obvs not in the same league as PS but she’s an enabler and complicit.

When PS did his coming out interview she went to great lengths to show that he was his confidante. I remember fuming over her simpering over him - especially when she asked if there was someone special- so disrespectful to his actual wife!!!

There’s always been lots of whispers that HW is a ruthless career climber and she hooked up with PS because of his influence, and because it reflected well on her to have a famous gay bestie.

I don’t think there’s a chance that she doesn’t know about PS’s relationship with the very young runner. And she probably knows a lot more too which is yet to come out.

I think it’s wrong that she slides out of all of this with no blame. She was happy to turn a blind eye when it benefitted her career.

If she really had an issue with PS, HW wouldn’t have put out a statement. Silence would have spoken volumes but instead she’s talking about how he’ll be missed.

As for PS, it will be interesting to see if he does present next month’s Soap Awards as ITV are still claiming he will. If he does, it proves the only reason he stepped down was due to his relationship with HW - if it’s due to his conduct, surely ITV wouldn’t still be happy to put him front and centre?!

I think PS should be off our screens for good. No one is going to look at him now without thinking about his behaviour- and that’s assuming there’s nothing more to come out…

Completely agree.

I don't like either of them. I used to like Holly and was a bit meh about Philip until the whole coming out saga. The pair of them all tearful on the couch, speaking about how brave he was humiliating his wife for years.

Both come across as false, nothing to do with misogyny. He is far worse because he has prayed on very young men. It absolutely does look like grooming.

Not on the same level but also queuegate. Both of them were equally involved.
I think both have massive egos.

Completely understand her distancing herself. I would be furious beyond belief if my 'best friend' holidayed with my teenage son knowing his brother had an inappropriate 'relationship' with a teenager. But I wouldn't be covering that up with a 'oh, he'll be missed'. It would be between ignoring it or publicly condemning his actions to make a point that he was wrong.

And it is highly likely she knew about PS 'relationship' with the runner who was also young.

Bottom line is they are both distasteful at the very least, albeit on different levels, it's nothing to do with bashing her because she is a woman.

I imagine more will come out now PS has had to step down and I certainly won't be watching anything he hosts. Makes my skin crawl.

ClareBlue · 20/05/2023 23:59

redroseq · 20/05/2023 20:29

And how does anyone know for a fact that he was aware of what his brother did but didn’t go to the police? That seems unlikely?!

He said it in a sworn statement, if that helps

Chickenballsandcheese · 21/05/2023 00:01

Say the NDA is actually coming to an end for the show runner and he comes out and says actually it was a completely innocent relationship, he's not commented because of the NDA. He left TM for loose women cause the hours were better and he wanted a bit of variety.
what then will the public stop hounding PS?

There's no actual proof a romantic relationship, inappropriate of otherwise as far as I can see on my Google searching. Just proof the knew/worked together and pots of rumours.

ClareBlue · 21/05/2023 00:02

Chickenballsandcheese · 20/05/2023 23:56

This is what I genuinely hate about the media, the absolute shit storm of rumours.
If it's true, PS was told by his brother the boy was 16, gross but of age. He cut ties when he discovered the truth according to what he said in court.
The Queens coffin, sure they weren't the only media there but others aren't in the firing line of the press or public? And David Beckham is a hero for been patient?
He came out as gay, many people do it, even when they've been married. If you believe the press his wife (yup still married) supports him.
Phil and holly fall out. Shock horror!!! People can fall out, grow apart etc.
Rumours of grooming the runner are just rumours. Until it's proven, it's just click bait. Maybe David Beckham can give us a few hints on been patient till the proof of the super injunction are actually provided. I've read about it, see videos about it etc never actually seen a copy of the proof it exists.

I'm not even a this morning fan, it's all a bit dull but I bloody hate the media. It fires out rumours as gospel. If you see it enough you start believing it.

The boy was well underage when sexual contact was initiated and PS was told by his brother a d he stated it in a sworn statement. These are facts established in Court. Hence the 12 years imprisonment, which you don't actually get for having sex with someone above the age of consent.

ClareBlue · 21/05/2023 00:04

And he didn't cut ties until it came out 3 years later in Court. That's the facts, not a media shit storm.

ClareBlue · 21/05/2023 00:09

Lampzade · 20/05/2023 22:00

Phil has burnt his bridges. He is unpopular with many of his fellow celebrities , was involved in a dodgy relationship with a young runner and did not report a pedo to the police.
Furthermore, he is an arrogant twat of a man who treats people like shit .
I have never liked him.
Good riddance to bad rubbish

I think that about sums it up

Aaaaandbreathe · 21/05/2023 00:09

Chickenballsandcheese · 20/05/2023 23:56

This is what I genuinely hate about the media, the absolute shit storm of rumours.
If it's true, PS was told by his brother the boy was 16, gross but of age. He cut ties when he discovered the truth according to what he said in court.
The Queens coffin, sure they weren't the only media there but others aren't in the firing line of the press or public? And David Beckham is a hero for been patient?
He came out as gay, many people do it, even when they've been married. If you believe the press his wife (yup still married) supports him.
Phil and holly fall out. Shock horror!!! People can fall out, grow apart etc.
Rumours of grooming the runner are just rumours. Until it's proven, it's just click bait. Maybe David Beckham can give us a few hints on been patient till the proof of the super injunction are actually provided. I've read about it, see videos about it etc never actually seen a copy of the proof it exists.

I'm not even a this morning fan, it's all a bit dull but I bloody hate the media. It fires out rumours as gospel. If you see it enough you start believing it.

'but of age'?

Yes it is gross and a few months before he would have been under age. Absolutely nothing wrong with vilifying him for that.

If your 16 year old son had a sexual relationship with a man (or woman) decades older, would that not concern you? Some children don't leave school until 18. Do you not think that is an abuse of power? This isn't hearsay.

Legally he may not have been able to report it as 16 is the age of consent (if it's to be believed he didn't know it was younger), but morally he should have cut him off right there and then...unless he also thinks 16 year olds are fair game for a man of his age.

Sickening people would defend this.

Chickenballsandcheese · 21/05/2023 00:10

ClareBlue · 21/05/2023 00:02

The boy was well underage when sexual contact was initiated and PS was told by his brother a d he stated it in a sworn statement. These are facts established in Court. Hence the 12 years imprisonment, which you don't actually get for having sex with someone above the age of consent.

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I didn't dispute the age of the brothers victim, just what PS had been told. According to PS he was told the boy was 16 which is over the age of consent.
People are choosing to believe this untrue but it's speculation.
I guess only time will tell if the police believe he was enabling a sex offender they will seek to charge him. He's not exactly loved by the public right now, it wouldn't be any backlash on the police. If anything right now the public would praise the police because the hate him.

Aaaaandbreathe · 21/05/2023 00:16

Chickenballsandcheese · 21/05/2023 00:10

I didn't dispute the age of the brothers victim, just what PS had been told. According to PS he was told the boy was 16 which is over the age of consent.
People are choosing to believe this untrue but it's speculation.
I guess only time will tell if the police believe he was enabling a sex offender they will seek to charge him. He's not exactly loved by the public right now, it wouldn't be any backlash on the police. If anything right now the public would praise the police because the hate him.

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Some people may not believe it's true, not sure I do, but I am going by the facts and 16 is as bad as 15 or 14 if you have a moral compass.

ClareBlue · 21/05/2023 00:20

He was 13 when sexual contact started, hence his 12 year prison sentence. We have all been around long enough to know 12 years are not given out for a bit of inappropriate behaviour. And PS knew about the underage contact. He has admitted it in Court, but his arrogance lead him to believe people would understand why he didn't report it. Like plenty before, he believes in an inate indestructibility because he has become arrogant and entitled, facilitated by a fawning employer.
His lack of self awareness became very obvious when he 'came out' as it was all about him and how brave he was. His statement about his friendship with H another failure to read the room. It will be interesting to see if he really does present the new prime time show ITV said he is working on.

Chickenballsandcheese · 21/05/2023 00:23

Aaaaandbreathe · 21/05/2023 00:09

'but of age'?

Yes it is gross and a few months before he would have been under age. Absolutely nothing wrong with vilifying him for that.

If your 16 year old son had a sexual relationship with a man (or woman) decades older, would that not concern you? Some children don't leave school until 18. Do you not think that is an abuse of power? This isn't hearsay.

Legally he may not have been able to report it as 16 is the age of consent (if it's to be believed he didn't know it was younger), but morally he should have cut him off right there and then...unless he also thinks 16 year olds are fair game for a man of his age.

Sickening people would defend this.

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Yes of age, that is the age of consent.

I'm not in anyway condoning the actions of PS brother. Its sickening and he needs castrating but vilifying PS for not reporting what he was told was a consensual relationship with a person of age (according to him).
If he went to the police and said my brother is with a 16 year old there isn't much the police could have done, potentially a wellbeing check but no guarantee.

I know several gay couples with large age gaps. There's plenty of celebrity couples too Google it.

You can believe I'm sickening all you like. Age gaps exist, like it or not.

Chickenballsandcheese · 21/05/2023 00:26

ClareBlue · 21/05/2023 00:04

And he didn't cut ties until it came out 3 years later in Court. That's the facts, not a media shit storm.

When he learnt the truth?
If PS is to be believed he was told the boy was 16.
Wouldn't you like to think that your family member was telling the truth rather the alternative of the being a scum of the earth?

ClareBlue · 21/05/2023 00:27

If you read the transcripts of the case I think you wouldn't have much doubt that PS knew how old the boy was and the circumstances around the abuse.