To this is fucking dangerous and why we must get the Tories out?

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This:

nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/

Look at the speakers;

nationalconservatism.org/natcon-uk-2023/

How can anybody who has studied any history whatsoever vote for this?

Are living in some kind of shit, TV movie about the fall of the UK?

Not really, but marginally more than I believe anyone who says women have penises.

Gary Linekar was right.

Quite a party trick seeing as it hasn't been written yet.

Looks like some good speakers in that line up. And the principles are fine too. Whether the Tory party delivers is another matter. I suspect not. They haven't so far. Apart from stopping the gender reforms in Scotland. Which was one good thing. But every political party we have at the moment is terrible.

Quite a party trick seeing as it hasn't been written yet.
So there is no Labour Party manifesto?

You are happy with the principal that girls should recieve less education than boys because all they need to do in life is stay at home and look after children?

Do you also like countries where woman are not allowed out without a male chaperone?

Much the same as there is no Conservative party manifesto, but some senior Tories at the weekend did attend a NatC event in order to influence what will be in the Tory manifesto and to position themsevles for the leadership election after their party loses in 2024.

There has to be some appetite for this stuff. America is a very religious society, if you’ve ever watched debates for presidential nominees the volume of references to god are amazing. The public in the UK would be wary of anyone who mentioned god that many times in a debate. We are very fundamentally different societies. The USA is fertile ground for that kind of politics.

The UK is not the US and super imposing US specific issues onto a very different UK context serves no-one well. Those people who protest outside abortion clinics are generally seen as insane in the UK. Buffer zones have been passed in the UK parliament, gay marriage legalised, coercive control recognised as domestic abuse. All passed with a shrug.

But that isn't actually going to happen, is it? None of these things are Tory policies.

It's "principle", by the way.

Senior member of the Tory party what these things to happen and what them to be Tory party policy, include a cabinet minister.

Can you directly quote the parts where it says:

1)that girls should receive less education than boys

2. woman won't be allowed out without a male chaperone?

Thanks.

Well since you're so sure the Tories will lose in 2024, it seems like rather a waste of time worrying about what the Tories who might try to win in 2029 might put in their manifesto, tbh.

I'm more worried about what people like David Lammy and Lisa Nandy have to say about women's rights, given that they will most likely be the ones in power.

"Those people who protest outside abortion clinics are generally seen as insane in the UK. Buffer zones have been passed in the UK parliament" , "All passed with a shrug."

Not entirely.
An amendment was tabled.

"But a group of Tory and DUP MPs tabled an amendment aimed at ensuring no offence is committed if a person is “engaged in consensual communication or in silent prayer” outside the clinics or hospitals offering abortion services."

109 Conservative & DUP MPs voted in favour of this amendment including Braverman & Hayes who coincidentally have both spoken at Nat Cons.

1. It is what that well known loon Marian Cates is reported to have said. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/15/low-birthrate-is-uk-top-priority-tory-mp-tells-rightwing-conference-miriam-cates
2. is my suggestion of an extension of such policies.

Do you support either of them?

I'm more worried about what people like David Lammy and Lisa Nandy have to say about women's rights, given that they will most likely be the ones in power.

Is that the same Lammy who thinks men can grow a cervix? Concerning that people who are so utterly stupid could possibly be in power.

Apologies. Meant to add the link.

www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/national/23370229.mps-reject-calls-allow-silent-prayer-abortion-clinic-buffer-zones/

You are not worried that we have government ministers attending a conference where one of their MPs said that girls should not go to university because they need to stay home and have children?

Does he know where Dover is? In which case he is ahead of darling Raab in the intellect stakes.

Saying a man can grow a cervix just signals that you're an idiot.

Saying that women who need single sex spaces are "dinosaurs who hoard rights" says something else about you altogether. Something far more unpleasant than mere stupidity.

Although someone saying either of those things is a good enough reason to not want them in the government.

She hasn't said either of those things in your link. If you are going to post links can you at least make sure they back up the point you're trying to prove rather than wasting people's time.

Thanks.

I'm less worried about David Lammy's intellect than his open contempt for women.

Lots of a conservative MPs and Ministers speaking. Shared values with the American Far-Right. Absolutely sickening.

You know that manifestos are written in the run up to a GE right? So nobody has a manifesto yet.

I am a little confused. Those MPs who voted in favour of allowing people to abuse vulnerable people also voted in favour of allowing the police to arrest people who might at some point in the future protest as occured with an entirely innocent person who attended the coronation.
Do they sometimes spin so fast they forget who they are?

Well it's not great, but find me a party which isn't full of woman hating wankers and I will vote for them.

The Tories have always been wankers.

Labour have, in my opinion, a moral duty not to be wankers just now.