To this is fucking dangerous and why we must get the Tories out?

[dontlookbackyourenotgoingthatway]

This:

nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/

Look at the speakers;

nationalconservatism.org/natcon-uk-2023/

How can anybody who has studied any history whatsoever vote for this?

Are living in some kind of shit, TV movie about the fall of the UK?

Sit on the fence till you make your own mind up. Little point in taking sides until you decide where the dividing line is. Maybe then you'll get a suggestion. Can't wait for 30pLee to contribute. I hope he's brought his recipe book with him. And his poorly paid office assistant.

I’m sure someone also mentioned this but it seems the MP Miriam Cates models herself on Serena from The Handmaids Tale. During her speech at the NatC conference she claimed ‘cultural Marxism’, excessive education, ‘individualism’ and women having less children were the biggest issues the UK faces today.

‘Criticising no-fault divorce and the expansion of childcare, Cates said the rise of university attendance also played a role: “
“Spending so much time and money on education also makes it much more difficult, particularly for women, to decide when is a good time to pause and have children.’

THIS. This scares me.

Transwomen in the ladies, not so much.

Mumsnet gets a mention in this Express article

Tories must fight back against the strange new norms pervading society | Express Comment | Comment | Express.co.uk

As figures such as Ron DeSantis in Florida and Glenn Youngkin in Virginia have shown, a determined deployment of legislative and executive power provides the only plausible means of conserving cultural identity against the corrosive effects of authoritarian progressivism.

National conservatives in other parts of the world have defended social norms in ways that may seem unthinkable in a socially liberal country like Britain. But, social conservatism today differs sharply from the social conservatism of yesteryear.

It is now routine for even the liberally inclined to express alarm at the rise of transhumanist technologies, the continuing erosion of the family, the nationalisation of childcare, and the alarming proliferation of strange new norms governing sexuality and gender identity.

Across an array of cultural and bio-political questions, social conservatives find themselves in coalition with unfamiliar allies, ranging from Mumsnet activists to gender-critical feminists. Despite their ideological differences, these unlikely bedfellows are united by core commitments on a range of issues.

They take pride in our national history and heritage. They criticise the over-reach of the ‘diversity’ industry, and they want to protect children from instruction in new ideological narratives that are poorly evidenced. There is even consensus on levels of migration that have brought few of the benefits that were cited as justification in the first place.

Just because it doesn't bother you, that doesn't mean you get to decide it's OK on behalf of all other women, including those less privileged than you.

Do you know why they are taught that? The Tory Party and their tendency to put TWAW believers at the head of Education for the past 6 years. The solution to safeguarding school girls mooted by the Tory Party is that girls should wait while transgirls use the facilities. I suppose it won't really matter if their solution to a different problem is that girls just don't get as much Education as boys.

How any mother of girls can even consider voting for this bunch of woman hating wankers is beyond me.

Nor do you, to be fair .

I know the answer to that.
Pick me please!

Can National Conservatism adapt from America to Britain? | Conservative Home

Some of The statement of principles

First, “the disintegration of the family…gravely threatens the wellbeing and sustainability of democratic nations. Among the causes are an unconstrained individualism that regards children as a burden, while encouraging ever more radical forms of sexual license and experimentation as an alternative to the responsibilities of family and congregational life”.

Second, “the Bible should be read as the first among the sources of a shared Western civilization in schools and universities, and as the rightful inheritance of believers and non-believers alike. Where a Christian majority exists, public life should be rooted in Christianity and its moral vision, which should be honored by the state and other institutions both public and private”.

Finally, “the free market cannot be absolute. Economic policy must serve the general welfare of the nation. Today, globalised markets allow hostile foreign powers to despoil America and other countries of their manufacturing capacity, weakening them economically and dividing them internally”.

Has she never considered that the costs of living, housing and the grim environmental and economic outlook this government presides over is a major factor in women not having children earlier or not having them at all?

@MargotBamborough

Oh come on, it's not me who consistently claims to speak for women on here.

I know you asked @jgw1 in this post, but I did give you some parties who have been consistently and unequivocally "transwomen are not women" upthread. Did you miss it?

How any mother of girls can even consider voting for this bunch of woman hating wankers is beyond me

That’s what I think of people hearing Labour call them dinosaurs, refusing to even answer questions on women’s rights calling them shrill and bigoted, and repeating that no one is discussing the issue rather than speaking clearly so women can decide.

So insulting. They can sod off

What good will labour actually do? What actual things will they do that are better? Most of them pretend that they don't know what sex is. That's just crazy, as well as dangerous.

Oh go on then @jgw1.

*Do you know why they are taught that? The Tory Party and their tendency to put TWAW believers at the head of Education for the past 6 years. The solution to safeguarding school girls mooted by the Tory Party is that girls should wait while transgirls use the facilities. I suppose it won't really matter if their solution to a different problem is that girls just don't get as much Education as boys.

How any mother of girls can even consider voting for this bunch of woman hating wankers is beyond me.*

Because Keir has a beer.

*Do you know why they are taught that? The Tory Party and their tendency to put TWAW believers at the head of Education for the past 6 years. The solution to safeguarding school girls mooted by the Tory Party is that girls should wait while transgirls use the facilities. I suppose it won't really matter if their solution to a different problem is that girls just don't get as much Education as boys.

How any mother of girls can even consider voting for this bunch of woman hating wankers is beyond me.*

But Jeremy Corbyn.

It’s also a thread about posters being ‘terrified’. About Braverman winning in 7 years even though they’re confident a less extreme version of the party will be out in 2024

So confident about the latter but convinced Labour won’t keep hold of public vote after five years

Labour is inheriting an almighty fuck up. It will take a long, long time to fix, and that certainly won't be done within a five year term. Some people might lose patience and if they have Braverman or some other poisonous NatCon whispering scapegoats in their ears (wokerati, immigrants, lazy disabled people (seeds of that being sown today), trans people etc etc)...

*Do you know why they are taught that? The Tory Party and their tendency to put TWAW believers at the head of Education for the past 6 years. The solution to safeguarding school girls mooted by the Tory Party is that girls should wait while transgirls use the facilities. I suppose it won't really matter if their solution to a different problem is that girls just don't get as much Education as boys.

How any mother of girls can even consider voting for this bunch of woman hating wankers is beyond me.*

Tony Blair invaded Iraq.

I certainly missed the part where you named a party I can vote for which will uphold women's rights.

You implied it's fine for men to be in women's spaces because you don’t have a problem with it.

I haven't seen anyone else on this thread claiming to speak for women, other than someone else who made an almost identical comment.

She directly told you. I saw it and I wasn't the interested party.

Send for Ira Levin, we're running out of Stepford Wives. Ms Cates sounds utterly deranged, poor thing. Still, it's earning her a living. Is that allowed though? Or is that just for special educated women who've somehow found themselves to be an MP? Her husband and children must be thrilled to have a mum who's hard at work guiding other women to their natural roles as wives and mothers. Recommended reading 'The Angel in the House', Coventry Patmore.

So who can I vote for then?

Is there a single party in the UK which can't be described as woman hating wankers?

If not, why not? And why aren't Labour trying to be that party?

@MargotBamborough

You're actually hallucinating now