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A 23 year old wants to be a stay at home wife?

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Ludlow2 · 16/05/2023 07:08

Friend's son had a girlfriend and both are 23.
She was keen to marry. Friend's son not so and his parents agreed.
Told him sort your career out,save up, find somewhere you will live. He agreed.
They split.
Both his parents work. My friend, his mother has always worked full-time and has a side business too. She is a great role model an although she is the breadwinner the father also works considerably hard.
Their children have and will benefit from this. They have also instilled good work ethic in their children too.
The friend's son and his ex girlfriend remained friends. She is keen to be with again and said she is happy.to wait and will continue with her studies maybe get a masters etc. She has then said that after marriage she does not want to work.

She thinks work is a want and not a need?

Obviously son Friend's son has run for the hills.
He did tell her it is impossible to survive on one income bla bla. But she just responded with we can move to a cheaper area and I'm not materlistic?

Im.just surprised at this attitude.

The girl's father left the family (Mother and siblings) whilst they were young.
Mother found another partner who comes and goes. Maybe it this why she is craving to be looked after by a man.
However, it sounds all so sad.

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Cazelet · 16/05/2023 07:34

I'm always interested in mumsnetters capacity to be confused or to not understand fairly straightforward differences in opinion.

Butchyrestingface · 16/05/2023 07:35

Yes fine, again, encourage your daughter. But why decide this randomer is worth posting about and disecting their life choices?

Why not? It's an unusual life choice in this day and age. Don't people post about unusual happenings?

SpecialControlGroup · 16/05/2023 07:35

Perhaps her craving isn’t so much for a man but to have her kids experience the security of having a mum at home. Perhaps her
m was absent a lot due to being a single working parent and she felt that was a hardship for her as a kid.

She doesn't have kids, she just doesn't want to work

wildfirewonder · 16/05/2023 07:35

Ludlow2 · 16/05/2023 07:22

  • am interested and want my daughter to be independent.

You seem to want everyone to think the same way you do?

Life is about choices.

Ludlow2 · 16/05/2023 07:35

HappilyContentTheseDays · 16/05/2023 07:30

Now this is an interesting discussion..... Mostly because of the concept that a woman wanting to stay at home and not work wants to be "looked after by a man".

My experience of staying at home (before I went out to work and eventually divorced) was that staying at home meant looing after the husband! He did nothing, absolutely nothing, wouldn't have even been able to open a tin never mind do anything around the home....and I certainly wouldn't have asked him to anyway. I worked bloody hard, morning, noon and night, and more so when the children came along.

When I eventually saw sense and finally went to work myself, it gave me freedom, indendance, my own money and most of all a sense of my own self.

And made you happier no doubt then been a doormat.

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Middlelanehogger · 16/05/2023 07:36

Everyone's hooking into the SAHW vs SAHM aspect very strongly but a) it's like third- or fourth-hand information so who's to say that's what she actually said, and b) someone who wants this lifestyle probably wants kids sooner rather than later - she's said she'd move somewhere cheaper, isn't materialistic etc which doesn't sound like someone who wants to be a footballer WAG, it sounds like someone who wants to be on the PTA and church committees and local groups and things. What difference does it make if she starts that 9mo earlier

wildfirewonder · 16/05/2023 07:36

Cazelet · 16/05/2023 07:34

I'm always interested in mumsnetters capacity to be confused or to not understand fairly straightforward differences in opinion.

I agree!

Fiddlededeefiddlededoh · 16/05/2023 07:36

I would say that was a pretty common expectation among some of my peers in school that once they had children they were going to stay home with them. There are probably always going to be a few girls each year who still have that as their ambition in life. I think with the cost of living as things are it will become less and less of a reasonable expectation for life but who knows when AI kicks in the working week might go right down and leisure and family time right up and in practice we all may be doing a version of staying at home.

Meeting · 16/05/2023 07:37

I am a stay at home wife in my 20s, hoping to become a SAHM soon. My life is not sad (besides fertility struggles) and it's very fulfilling.

musixa · 16/05/2023 07:37

Isn't there some kind of social media 'movement' about this idea? I'm sure I've read about it. I wonder if she has been influenced by influencers!

CabbagePatchDole · 16/05/2023 07:37

I would guess she means both.

wildfirewonder · 16/05/2023 07:38

And made you happier no doubt then been a doormat.

Equating being a SAHM with being a 'doormat' is not on.

Swrigh1234 · 16/05/2023 07:38

Sissynova · 16/05/2023 07:12

The girl's father left the family (Mother and siblings) whilst they were young.
Mother found another partner who comes and goes. Maybe it this why she is craving to be looked after by a man.
However, it sounds all so sad.

Why? You sound way over invested in the love life of your son’s friend.

Plenty of women chose to be a stay at home parent. It’s not the most popular option now but it’s valid. It also has nothing to do with you.

Maybe redirect your judgment to watching a soap or something instead of sitting on the sidelines of someone’s life with your bowl of popcorn.

Says someone who opened the thread knowing the content from the title, read the OP and then commented.

Somebodiesmother · 16/05/2023 07:38

Ludlow2 · 16/05/2023 07:35

And made you happier no doubt then been a doormat.

Not working doesn't make someone a doormat.

FancyasFuck · 16/05/2023 07:38

musixa · 16/05/2023 07:37

Isn't there some kind of social media 'movement' about this idea? I'm sure I've read about it. I wonder if she has been influenced by influencers!

Yes there is. Lots of young women online talking about how to find a husband who'll enable them not to work.

musixa · 16/05/2023 07:39

Middlelanehogger · 16/05/2023 07:36

Everyone's hooking into the SAHW vs SAHM aspect very strongly but a) it's like third- or fourth-hand information so who's to say that's what she actually said, and b) someone who wants this lifestyle probably wants kids sooner rather than later - she's said she'd move somewhere cheaper, isn't materialistic etc which doesn't sound like someone who wants to be a footballer WAG, it sounds like someone who wants to be on the PTA and church committees and local groups and things. What difference does it make if she starts that 9mo earlier

I agree this is is very much hearsay. But 'starting 9 months earlier' - there's no guarantee that children are going to come along like clockwork.

Middlelanehogger · 16/05/2023 07:39

when AI kicks in the working week might go right down and leisure and family time right up and in practice we all may be doing a version of staying at home

Exactly, women in the olden days didn't SAH watching soaps, they were tending vege patches and taking in needlework etc around the kids at home. The weird post-industrial 9-5 outside-the-home job is the abnormal bit IMO

NeedCoffeeNowPlease · 16/05/2023 07:39

SpecialControlGroup · 16/05/2023 07:35

Perhaps her craving isn’t so much for a man but to have her kids experience the security of having a mum at home. Perhaps her
m was absent a lot due to being a single working parent and she felt that was a hardship for her as a kid.

She doesn't have kids, she just doesn't want to work

Maybe she hopes for the kids to come quickly?

I suppose it's each couple's decision to have one of the partners be a SAHW or H if they can afford it. No-one else's businesses, even if it's not something they understand.

As for 'good example for the kids' by being a WOHP, again up to each couple, I only care what we decide for our family for our own reasons, but my decision to be a SAHM was largely driven by the experience of having two fulltime WOHP. Now they are mostly grown I think it's worth it. And yes, I could get a job tomorrow if I needed to.

Ludlow2 · 16/05/2023 07:39

wildfirewonder · 16/05/2023 07:38

And made you happier no doubt then been a doormat.

Equating being a SAHM with being a 'doormat' is not on.

Doormat to her husband who did nothing.

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YukoandHiro · 16/05/2023 07:40

Tayegete · 16/05/2023 07:19

Wouldn’t everyone like to sit at home supported by another adult? However that makes you a child not an adult. She didn’t say stay at home mum, she said stay at home wife. I’d encourage both of my DC to run for the hills as well if someone (of either sex) wasn’t prepared to work.

No. Not everyone would. I couldn't think of anything that could make me feel more simultaneously bored and vulnerable.

NeedCoffeeNowPlease · 16/05/2023 07:40

FancyasFuck · 16/05/2023 07:38

Yes there is. Lots of young women online talking about how to find a husband who'll enable them not to work.

I think a lot of women in this generation have had two full time WOHP and want to be more present for their own kids.

Boomboom22 · 16/05/2023 07:40

Being a housewife whoever husband doesn't lift a finger apart from work does make you a doormat though.
And it's a bad idea in todays society, plus not actually traditional at all but a product of the industrial revolution so men could work long hours. So not natural actually in history most women worked unless they were upper class.

NeedToChangeName · 16/05/2023 07:40

The girl's father left the family (Mother and siblings) whilst they were young.
Mother found another partner who comes and goes. Maybe it this why she is craving to be looked after by a man

I'd have thought this experience might make her all the more determined to pay her own way and not be dependent on other people to support her

I find it hugely depressing that a young woman's ambition would be to find a man who is willing to support her financially while she makes no contribution. I doubt many young men would buy into that

Swrigh1234 · 16/05/2023 07:41

OP, you are not wrong. Every other thread on this forum is from a woman who is reliant on her partner financially because she doesn’t work or is earning less than him. Of course it’s her choice and that’s fine. But anyone who chooses this lifestyle without accepting the enormous risks that come with being financially dependent on someone else is in denial.

Ludlow2 · 16/05/2023 07:41

NeedToChangeName · 16/05/2023 07:40

The girl's father left the family (Mother and siblings) whilst they were young.
Mother found another partner who comes and goes. Maybe it this why she is craving to be looked after by a man

I'd have thought this experience might make her all the more determined to pay her own way and not be dependent on other people to support her

I find it hugely depressing that a young woman's ambition would be to find a man who is willing to support her financially while she makes no contribution. I doubt many young men would buy into that

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