The WHO want your four year old to be taught about masturbation and gender identity

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/13/outrage-over-who-advice-on-sexuality-for-infants/

This is where queer theory gets you. Women have been sounding the alarm on the consequences of the promotion of queer theory in all realms of life. This is what it looks like when applies to sex ed for very young children.

So, before you dismiss people like me as modern day Mary Whitehouses, just take a read and ask yourself why? What problem is this solving? Why do very young children need to be taught about sex and sexual pleasure? Are they benefiting, if not, who is?

(article behind a paywall, but there is a trick that will allow you to read it. A quick google should tell you).

Well then your safeguarding "statement" needs to address this. Safeguarding should encompass peer on peer abuse and provide a framework for spotting and stopping it. If it doesn't then it is not going to be an effective safeguarding approach.

I completely agree, I guess what I was getting at, possibly not all that clearly, is peer on peer abuse, peer pressure etc is often overlooked when it comes to safe guarding which is a worry given the rise (in Ireland anyway) of children abusing children and easy access to porn online is given as one of the reasons for this

I agree with this "Personally, I've never understood why the government can't come up with a syllabus for sex education and roll it out, age appropriately, across-the-board. Everyone is taught the same thing, at the same time, delivered in the same way. "
One issue is if too much latitude if given to a particular school or teacher their own personal views or agenda might intrude, although obviously some religions see abortion as mortal sin so religious state schools are going to have a different take on some topics than others.

Regulated and monitored. With input from a range of professionals.

Regulated and monitored. With input from a range of professionals.

A lot of professionals are institutionally captured. A lot of what we are seeing was produced by professionals.

I think that was my sentence that was being copied.

I was suggesting there should input be from a range of different people to come up with a government endorsed syllabus for sex education. Instead of outsourcing it to any old Tom Dick or Harry who fancies the gig.

Including child psychologists, developmental experts, teachers, healthcare professionals, HCPs and parents, etc.

To consult a broad range of disciplines.

Or...they could ask for some input from the women on mumsnet. 😁

(I'm only partly kidding).

Datun · Today 18:24

I think that was my sentence that was being copied.

I was suggesting there should input be from a range of different people to come up with a government endorsed syllabus for sex education. Instead of outsourcing it to any old Tom Dick or Harry who fancies the gig.

Including child psychologists, developmental experts, teachers, healthcare professionals, HCPs and parents, etc.

To consult a broad range of disciplines.

Or...they could ask for some input from the women on mumsnet. 😁

(I'm only partly kidding).

Sorry, I should have said, I was quoting
Xenia · Today 15:50

You are both right in principle, but it is worrying because for example isn’t the Royal College of Psychiatry with Stonewall? (I think there was a thread about it.)

A lot of teachers believe TWAW.

Government guidelines include teaching gender identity.

Apparently the Civil Service are enthrall to gender ideology.

So your last suggestion may be the best!

Yeah, I think Xenia was partly quoting me. Today at 10:21.

Part of my post was

Personally, I've never understood why the government can't come up with a syllabus for sex education and roll it out, age appropriately, across-the-board. Everyone is taught the same thing, at the same time, delivered in the same way. "

Regulated and monitored. With input from a range of professionals.

it would close any loophole that is being exploited.

I agree you would have to be careful who is consulted. Because the capture goes so deep. My thinking was if you consult a wide enough range, you will get checks and balances on that basis.

But yeah, personally, I think Mumsnet is definitely the way to go!

in fact, I think mumsnet should be consulted on a wide variety of government initiatives. Just to get a broad range of views, if nothing else. One thing mumsnetters don't do, is agree on everything 😁

(Still only partly joking...)

Datun · Today 20:01
Thank you for example for explaining, and I’m sorry to for the confusion.

It is true, a wide enough range in the consultation might create some checks and balances.

It’s been proven to be fake news. The Telegraph often prints triggering fake stories without correct journalist standard peer verification.
More divisive/ diversive outrage from the ruling class.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/aug/30/leaflets-falsely-claim-pupils-taught-masturbation-in-relationship-classes

Since when has the WHO ever been involved in developing any school syllabus?

More fake propaganda from the Telegraphs culture war dept designed to divide and conquer.

Well this is a curious time to resurrect a zombie thread now isn't it?

Suggest you stop believing everything you read in newspapers, at least do quality research before spreading propaganda from the Torygraph.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/aug/30/leaflets-falsely-claim-pupils-taught-masturbation-in-relationship-classes

They went downhill after their second album imho.

Only just come across it after seeing a group of people quoting the same lie at some minor ( excuse the pun) demo in London this week.

I wonder what's spurred this resurrection, consisting it seems of posting the same 2019 Graun article and slightly rewriting the same point? Interspersed with quoting posts? 🤔