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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To refuse to cover when my ex's partner gives birth?

318 replies

dadworld345 · 11/05/2023 12:09

My ex and his girlfriend have both been abusive to me. I left my ex due to his abuse. We have a 5 year old son together.

His girlfriend will have a baby soon. The ex constantly badgers me about the baby and how I should be grateful that he is giving our son a sibling. I try to ignore it.

I am my son's primary carer and I schedule important things and social events when my son is scheduled to be with his dad.

My ex and his girlfriend both have family in the area.

Ex demanded that I be on call to go pick up my son, including turning my phone on at night, if the girlfriend goes into labour. I told him he needs to sort himself out, though I did agree to cover some of the times when I am not working or sleeping.

He is now rumourmongering about me at school.

AIBU to tell him that he needs to find childcare if his gf goes into labour during one of the (infrequent) times he is responsible for our son?

OP posts:
dadworld345 · 11/05/2023 13:27

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:23

You have NO idea what he has tried to arrange childcare wise. With her attitude, do you really think he dared ask OP as first choice? Hardly being amenable is she. Yes, he is the fucking father. She is the fucking mother. Who is clearly bitter and jealous of her ex and new partner.

Less concerned with who her son may be left with than how meeeeean, waaah, her ex apparently is. Maybe dad would be better off leaving child the distant family, im sure they'd at least be excited for him about his new sibling rather than mummy who sounds like she'll do anything to poison that relationship.

Tbh I am sure that I am the first option. They treat me as backup childcare. I usually agree as my son prefers being with me. However, I am not going to ruin my life and plans being on call when they can make other arrangements.

I'm really not jealous. I have a wonderful life and boyfriend. I just wish they would leave me alone.

OP posts:
whumpthereitis · 11/05/2023 13:29

Blossomtoes · 11/05/2023 13:22

It’s not about him. It’s about what’s best for the child. The bloody bitterness of some people is staggering.

Yes, and as the father he’s perfectly capable of sourcing suitable childcare for his son 🤷🏻‍♀️ it doesn’t need to be OP over one of his family members or a babysitter.

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:29

Naunet · 11/05/2023 13:26

You’re asking why he would demand the woman he treats like utter trash do this?! Err, maybe because he knows he can walk all over her 🙄 and no, she’s not clearly better and jealous, why would you think that? Because she’s not rushing to help an abusive man, so the only reason must be jealousy?! What a bizarre idea. Her son has paternal relatives, just as capable of providing childcare as OPs family are.

Abusive, but hasnt managed to actually back that statement up and has only used it to justify her spitefulness... Nothing unreasonable, unfair or spiteful about their request. One AH here and its OP. Its her son, who she would rather see go to anyone but herself, so it doesnt interfere with her drinking plans.

5128gap · 11/05/2023 13:30

dadworld345 · 11/05/2023 12:16

@ElfDragon yes, my son knows the girlfriend's family and the ex's family. The ex has many friends who live nearby as well.

The ex is absolutely horrible to me and treats me like his servant. During these times, I have things scheduled during these times, like theatre events, a (likely boozy) 50th to attend, etc. Should I put my life on hold because my horrible ex and his horrible girlfriend decided to have a baby?

Of course you shouldn't have to. But unfortunately you don't really have a choice, do you? It seems its either that or leave your son to be inadequately cared for by a pair of abusers. Its awful when a co parent abdicates responsibility but short of your 5 year old being shunted off to who knows where by people who aren't putting his needs high on the agenda, what else can you do? Do you have a trusted babysitter who could be on call in your place if you're at the party?

Mustardandchickensandwiches · 11/05/2023 13:30

I think YABU. Your clouded by the fact you don't want to 'do him a favour'

Rise above it OP, think about your DS. He would want his mum. And rightly so.

MajesticWhine · 11/05/2023 13:30

I don't think you should cancel specific plans and he needs another option for those scenarios. But in general I think it is reasonable to ask you to be contactable and to go and collect your son. So I voted YABU.

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:31

dadworld345 · 11/05/2023 13:27

Tbh I am sure that I am the first option. They treat me as backup childcare. I usually agree as my son prefers being with me. However, I am not going to ruin my life and plans being on call when they can make other arrangements.

I'm really not jealous. I have a wonderful life and boyfriend. I just wish they would leave me alone.

You ARE the backup childcare, what part of being a mum dont you understand here? Arent you treating your ex like back up childcare when you have all these plans you refuse to shift regardless of your childs wellbeing? You called yourself a single mum earlier, but now you have a partner. This really isnt consistent.

PinkCherryBlossoms · 11/05/2023 13:31

Is it possible they'll try and fob XP DW child off on you again?

Naunet · 11/05/2023 13:31

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:29

Abusive, but hasnt managed to actually back that statement up and has only used it to justify her spitefulness... Nothing unreasonable, unfair or spiteful about their request. One AH here and its OP. Its her son, who she would rather see go to anyone but herself, so it doesnt interfere with her drinking plans.

So mums aren’t allowed nights out? Is that your issue, that she’s daring to want a night out rather than take her son on demand during the fathers contact time? Why does that outrage you so much? Why are you so against him having to sort childcare with HIS family, their sons RELATIVES?

Soakitup37 · 11/05/2023 13:31

Thesearmsofmine · 11/05/2023 12:18

It’s not about doing something to help out your ex, it’s about prioritising what would be best for your child. Coming home to mum and his home is the preferable option here.

This

AnnaTortoiseshell · 11/05/2023 13:31

Surely, when you have kids, you are always ‘on call’. There is never a time where, in an emergency, you don’t have to rearrange your life around your children.

Ag52q · 11/05/2023 13:31

I haven't mentioned anything about people's capability in looking after the child. I talked about the child feeling safe and settled and focusing on what's best for him instead of focusing on the EX and GF. I am assuming he would feel more safe and settled in his own home with his mother.
Plus the OP hasn't only mentioned the paternal side of the family, it might be the GF's and some nearby friends he apparently should ask to have their child instead of her.

Ag52q · 11/05/2023 13:32

Sorry that w@Naunetas for

Naunet · 11/05/2023 13:32

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:31

You ARE the backup childcare, what part of being a mum dont you understand here? Arent you treating your ex like back up childcare when you have all these plans you refuse to shift regardless of your childs wellbeing? You called yourself a single mum earlier, but now you have a partner. This really isnt consistent.

Yeah and I’m sure you’d say exactly the same if it was OP demanding he look after their son during her contact time at the drop of a hat, when he already had plans 🙄

dadworld345 · 11/05/2023 13:33

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:29

Abusive, but hasnt managed to actually back that statement up and has only used it to justify her spitefulness... Nothing unreasonable, unfair or spiteful about their request. One AH here and its OP. Its her son, who she would rather see go to anyone but herself, so it doesnt interfere with her drinking plans.

This thread isn't about the abuse and I am not going to provide detailed evidence here. I literally had to do a moonlight flit because I was so afraid of him. (But it was all emotional and mental violence, which you probably don't accept as abuse).

You will just have to assume this as a fact for the purpose of the thread and question.

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Naunet · 11/05/2023 13:34

Ag52q · 11/05/2023 13:31

I haven't mentioned anything about people's capability in looking after the child. I talked about the child feeling safe and settled and focusing on what's best for him instead of focusing on the EX and GF. I am assuming he would feel more safe and settled in his own home with his mother.
Plus the OP hasn't only mentioned the paternal side of the family, it might be the GF's and some nearby friends he apparently should ask to have their child instead of her.

She’s already said she’s got the impression he’s only asked/demanded she do it.

Why would a child not feel safe at their own relatives house? OP hasn’t said anything about his family being abusive etc.

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:35

Naunet · 11/05/2023 13:31

So mums aren’t allowed nights out? Is that your issue, that she’s daring to want a night out rather than take her son on demand during the fathers contact time? Why does that outrage you so much? Why are you so against him having to sort childcare with HIS family, their sons RELATIVES?

This isnt babysitting, this is a bloody medical issue. This isnt for grandparents to be forced to step in over, why should they be on hold.

Dad isnt asking for a bloody night out, what is wrong with you people. Im outraged that this is clearly spite, a lack of willingness to look after her own child simply to spite the father. Her end goal is hoping he misses the birth, or at least worrying his partner that he may not be able to get there because the older child has no care. That anyone is supportive of her putting her child third to 1) spite towards dad and 2) drinking, is beyond me.

dadworld345 · 11/05/2023 13:35

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lilmishap · 11/05/2023 13:36

I would be pissed. He's a parent having another baby, big fucking deal.
What does he think happens to women with kids who go into labour? Their partners sort the kids out is what happens, if that means dad has to miss the birth because he has a child tough, they should have planned better. He had months to arrange something and they both knew there was a child.

It IS a reasonable request between two people who have been decent to each other, but coming from someone who'd treated me like shit I would be bristling like crazy at it. I'd likely do it, but I'd be scowling at the adults involved and would bring it up as evidence of their shitty adulting skills during any future shitty treatment from them.

KittyAlfred · 11/05/2023 13:36

I would just explain that you can’t put your life on hold, and that you’ll be happy to collect your son if you’re available, but if you’re out then you won’t be able to, so he needs to have other back up in place. And I would make it clear this is only for your son’s benefit.

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:36

Naunet · 11/05/2023 13:32

Yeah and I’m sure you’d say exactly the same if it was OP demanding he look after their son during her contact time at the drop of a hat, when he already had plans 🙄

You have no idea what id say, or have said, so your point is moot.

Naunet · 11/05/2023 13:38

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 11/05/2023 13:35

This isnt babysitting, this is a bloody medical issue. This isnt for grandparents to be forced to step in over, why should they be on hold.

Dad isnt asking for a bloody night out, what is wrong with you people. Im outraged that this is clearly spite, a lack of willingness to look after her own child simply to spite the father. Her end goal is hoping he misses the birth, or at least worrying his partner that he may not be able to get there because the older child has no care. That anyone is supportive of her putting her child third to 1) spite towards dad and 2) drinking, is beyond me.

Medical issue?! Him and his new girlfriend are having a baby, they’ve had 9 months to sort childcare, it’s not a surprise and unexpected, which would be very different.

Whats wrong with me?! What because I’m not calling a woman bitter, jealous and now spiteful for not jumping on demand for a man that abused her? For not seeing the idea of him having to ask his family (the child’s own relatives) for help as outrageous? Yeah ok…

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Im sorry, Im now a troll because I dont agree with you? You literally said you were single mother, then a magical boyfriend appeared when you needed to prove that you totally arent bitter and/or jealous.

But im a troll, ok then.

SweetBlues · 11/05/2023 13:39

Going against the grain - not your day, not your problem. Does your son have a preference for where he would like to be?

chocolatemademefat · 11/05/2023 13:40

Doesn’t your son come first with you? So you might miss a boozy 50th - too bad. Being a parent is being available ALL the time - even with shared parenting. And who switches their phone off at night - your son isn’t a shared commodity - he should be your main priority.

The birth of a baby is a big deal - no matter your relationship with your ex and his partner. I can’t believe any sane - and decent - person would dig their heels in over this for the sake of their own interests.

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