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To think William should have made more effort

435 replies

michaelmacrae · 06/05/2023 17:38

To learn that one line pledge to his father? He read from a card looking sideways most of the way through it, and he looked like he was bored and rushing through it. Looked terrible on screen.

I know he's lazy but it wasn't too much to ask for, was it - to memorise that line and at least fake a bit of sincerity?

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EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 06/05/2023 17:54

So, @michaelmacrae what did you do the last time you took on an important role in a ritual being watched by millions of people?

Topseyt123 · 06/05/2023 17:54

Nothing wrong with having cue cards. It looked fine to me. I'd have wanted the back up of that too even if I only had to say a very few words in front of a worldwide audience.

The Archbishop and all other members of the clergy also read lot from cue cards. Should none of them have been there? After all, it is so lazy, right!?

What a strange thing to take umbrage at!!

CeriB82 · 06/05/2023 17:56

michaelmacrae · 06/05/2023 17:38

To learn that one line pledge to his father? He read from a card looking sideways most of the way through it, and he looked like he was bored and rushing through it. Looked terrible on screen.

I know he's lazy but it wasn't too much to ask for, was it - to memorise that line and at least fake a bit of sincerity?

You know he’s lazy?

know him personally?

Jobhuntings · 06/05/2023 17:56

Comedycook · 06/05/2023 17:48

It's their job though...they should do it properly. Remember a few lines. Actors manage it all the time.

You realise they're born into these public roles, don't you? Obviously not.

Actors CHOOSE their profession. Completely different.

FourTeaFallOut · 06/05/2023 17:56

Comedycook · 06/05/2023 17:52

Oooohhh all the forelock tuggers are out today.

Pathetic.

It's their job. Stop thinking they're doing us a favour.

Look at the number of people who think scanning the coronation for moments of sub-par pomp and ceremony is some kind of proxy for republican discourse. Oooh, a horse looked pissed, George looks bored, William read off a card... let's start the revolution!

Darthwazette · 06/05/2023 17:58

The little lad at the beginning managed without a card

michaelmacrae · 06/05/2023 17:58

TeaAndTattoos · 06/05/2023 17:40

Charles was reading off cards too.

Charles is 74 and he had a lot more to say and do.

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spottybug · 06/05/2023 17:58

They have to say the exact words. Could you imagine if they didn't? Someone would be like.. IT'S NOT VALID!

DdraigGoch · 06/05/2023 18:00

I think the only people who weren't reading from cue cards were the military, and the choirboy at the start who greeted the King.

mumda · 06/05/2023 18:01

Horrifically stressful. I'd need a card too.

Imagine watching your father getting his life's goal which only happened finally because granny snuffed it. and knowing that you'll almost certainly only go through this once he's died.
And that the same will happen for your child too.

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/05/2023 18:02

ShandaLear · 06/05/2023 17:49

I imagine he’s mortified, standing there in a giant cloak having to pledge allegiance to his dad like some sort of serf. The whole thing is loopy loo.

This. It's fucking weird. Imagine having to pledge allegiance to your DAD? I'd look shifty as well. I would have learned my lines though. If I had to go through that nonsense.

And why can't they have those see through prompt screens like on telly? So much less ridiculous looking than cue cards.

snowandshowers · 06/05/2023 18:03

Perhaps you could direct the next one.

NightIsYoungSoAreWe · 06/05/2023 18:03

I didnt realise he was reading off of a card, I thought he was nervous and awkwardly looking to the side because of it 🤭

Lifeinlists · 06/05/2023 18:03

GeraltsBathtub · 06/05/2023 17:40

Looked fine to me. I’d want to have it there too regardless of how much I had practiced - imagine getting it wrong or stumbling from nerves! If there’s anyone who was reading something they should have had memorised, it was the Archbishop reading holy communion!

PW was fine for me too but I agree about Justin Welby. Obviously not too acquainted with the Prayer Book.

BeenThereTooo · 06/05/2023 18:04

michaelmacrae · 06/05/2023 17:46

It's a pledge, it's meant to be from the heart. I think William could have made more effort, it was just a few words FFS.

As you say it is a pledge enshrined in history and law - not exactly a time for "luv u hun".

michaelmacrae · 06/05/2023 18:04

It's OK to have cue cards, of course they don't want anything to go wrong at any moment. But W literally just read off them, rather than look the king in the eye and say his pledge with sincerity, keeping the cards as a back up. He's had months to learn one simple line! Lazy.

W & K are known for being lazy though, even the Queen (QE2) said it.

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Topseyt123 · 06/05/2023 18:04

michaelmacrae · 06/05/2023 17:58

Charles is 74 and he had a lot more to say and do.

William will have all of that to say and do sometime within the next twenty years or so.

He'd better get learning and rehearsing now, hadn't he!? After all, we wouldn't want him to appear lazy come his own coronation day would we? And while he is about it he can drill the "liege man" line word perfectly into George's head too.

You are being ridiculous.

PollyPeptide · 06/05/2023 18:06

Diana got Charles name wrong at their wedding. She called him Philip. 😄 Why risk it?

LeMoo · 06/05/2023 18:06

Even professional, stage-trained actors freak out at delivering lines live, I can't get worked up about this 😄

SunnyEgg · 06/05/2023 18:06

FourTeaFallOut · 06/05/2023 17:56

Look at the number of people who think scanning the coronation for moments of sub-par pomp and ceremony is some kind of proxy for republican discourse. Oooh, a horse looked pissed, George looks bored, William read off a card... let's start the revolution!

Haha I’ve never seen such dedication to an event they have no interest in

PrincessofWellies · 06/05/2023 18:06

Today could mumsnet get any lower?

DancingWithTheMoonlitKnight · 06/05/2023 18:07

I would hope William felt the whole dressing up in cloaks and crowns was ridiculous and he wanted his part over and done with.

I bet he's hoping all that bollocks has been consigned to the history books when it's his turn.

CabernetSauvignon · 06/05/2023 18:07

Comedycook · 06/05/2023 17:44

Agree. Why were they all reading off cards?! Lazy, privileged useless lot.

Try taking part in a massively important ceremony being televised to millions with little by way of rehearsal. Would you really want to rely on your memory?

Topseyt123 · 06/05/2023 18:07

michaelmacrae · 06/05/2023 18:04

It's OK to have cue cards, of course they don't want anything to go wrong at any moment. But W literally just read off them, rather than look the king in the eye and say his pledge with sincerity, keeping the cards as a back up. He's had months to learn one simple line! Lazy.

W & K are known for being lazy though, even the Queen (QE2) said it.

Provide a link for when she said that.

MrsToothyBitch · 06/05/2023 18:07

Oh lay off him. When I was a chorister & in church all the time, we knew all the responses etc and could've done them off pat but we still read them out the order of service, as did the rev. The mind can play tricks or nerves can ruin you so this way is safest. I've learnt swathes of prose for drama exams before- it's actually quite hard. Whilst William only had to learn 1 line, he was still safer with a card - especially whilst also doing something simultaneously with the world watching.

Some people also just really struggle; my friend forgot a line of wedding vows that had just been said to her seconds earlier to repeat back. Actors train and presumably get used to it in the course of years- and plenty of them still won't do theatre! Pretty sure Michael Gambon dried on stage and didn't go back/wouldn't do theatre for years.