To think Camilla should not have been crowned Queen

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She should have been Princess Consort as we were told she would be. Instead the usual airbrushing of history to try and make her acceptable by clever spinning. And positive press. Bit sickening since Edward VIII had to abdicate over marrying a divorced woman.

ah yes, but in the eyes of the church as OP stated.

the church is where the true inequality is. The church which has put down and tries to control women even to this day.

Bit off topic but it's confusing me... I'm Irish so not sure how it all works but if Camilla is queen consort why wasn't Prince Philip King consort?

Because King is apparently superior to Queen ,I don't really get it with tbh.

The late Queen was happy to give her blessing to Camilla being the next Queen. The Princess Consort thing was nearly decades ago. Things change. Queen Camilla is fine by me.

Do you also want to go back to the days when women were paid less than men for the same job?

get over yourself

She should have been Princess Consort as we were told she would be.

Has anyone official actually ever announced that she would have been princess consort? I do remember the rumours but I have no idea if it has ever been official.

My understanding is it’s because a king is always a position of higher power than a queen, so a queen’s husband can’t be made a king or he would have more power than her. He needs to remain a Prince so that the queen is in the highest position of power. A kings spouse can become a queen because that doesn’t elevate her position above his, as the king he is still at the top of the royal hierarchy.

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YABU, she is his Queen, get over it.

Yes. A King is superior to a Queen so a man married to a Queen cannot be given a higher title than her. A woman married to a King is Queen as that's still a lower title. So goes the tradition.

It was announced at their wedding that that was the "intention". Intentions change. Some people can't get over that.

@dulra Kings are 'higher' in terms of Queens vs Kings. So a man marrying the heir to the throne can't become a King (consort or not). Whereas a woman marrying the heir can become Queen (consort).

To my knowledge that began when Mary I (Mary Tudor/Bloody Mary) married Philip of Spain. He was already King of Spain and, had he been allowed to become King of England, he'd have been 'higher' in status than the correct heir to the throne. So the rules were changed to ensure no man ever became King unless he was the actual heir to the throne.

So Prince Albert (Queen Victoria's husband) and Prince Philip were both Prince, not King. It protects the line of heirs.

She's great. They clearly love each other support each other. It was lovely to see their blended family on the balcony.

Edward and Wallis were Nazi sympathisers who plotted with Hitler to overthrow the British monarchy. The divorce wasn't the only indicator that something was off, she was reading all his personal red box documents and couldn't be trusted.
I think it's a stretch to compare Camilla to an active Nazi sympathiser.

YABU, OP.

Edward VIII didn't really abdicate because he wanted to marry a divorcee, it was because he was a big old fan of Hitler.

At the end of the day, either you believe that someone should sit on a throne and wear a crown because they happened to fall out of the right vagina at the right time, or you don't.

If you do believe that, well then Charles is our King and Camilla, his wife of nearly 20 years, is our Queen.

I'm pretty mystified by people who apparently don't believe the monarchy is a load of old nonsense, but are outraged about Camilla being Queen. I reckon people loved Diana because most people are suckers for a pretty face and think a princess should look like the ones out of Disney movies and not like posh horsey girls from pony club. Sorry you're disappointed by the reality, but Disney isn't real life.

Thanks for explanation had assumed it might be to do with King being superior. God it really is so outdated but as an outsider really enjoyed all the pomp and ceremony fantastic spectacle

The Archbishop of Canterbury doesn’t seem to have a problem with it. Are you more qualified to speak on the official position of the Church of England than him?

Either way, Diana has been dead for a quarter of a century and you should probably get over it. It's not as if you knew her anyway!

If this is a big issue in your life, you are doing pretty well for yourself...

Oh do naff on. It's done now. Get over yourself.

Well. loads of men with multiple partners have been crowned king!

If you're against the monarchy as such, that's one thing; but why be harsher toward women than men?

The Mrs. Simpson thing seems pretty unreasonable nowadays, but may possibly have been an excuse to keep a man with somewhat divided national loyalties and very dodgy views from the throne.

Anne Boleyn was never a mistress. She kept putting Henry off until they married.

You need to understand the difference between a widower and a divorcee. He was not a widower because Diana died after the divorce had been finalised. So he was a divorcee and not a widower.

Anyway, in answer to your point, surely we have moved on since 1936!! Of course it was proper that Camilla be crowned Queen (Consort, although thankfully that bit is slowly being dropped now). Why on earth not?

He should have been allowed to marry Camilla decades ago rather than being steered towards Diana. He and Diana were very ill-suited right from the word go and Diana even told her sisters in the run up to the wedding that she no longer wanted it to go ahead. Their response was that she couldn't wriggle out now because her face was on the tea towels.

A divorcee can be crowned King. Another divorcee can also be crowned as his Queen if married to him at the time. Why the hell not?

Get over it.

I find it so interesting that instead of an interesting discussion, PPs immediately resorted to unintelligent, angry insults.

This site can be so boring. Where are the people with a brain?

I think Camilla looked horrified and embarrassed today....I think she doesn't really want to be Queen. I think life sort of happened to her and suddenly she finds herself in this strange position.