Arrested for holding a banner - can't ruin a big day, can we...

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'Not My King' protesters unfurl flags and shout anti-monarchy slogans on Coronation route | Daily Mail Online

Looks like the police are taking full advantage of their new powers.

@Tarantullah

The problem I have with your post is that I've seen so much misinformation or lack of information from royalists

They don't know about the 'royals' excluding themselves from laws, they don't know about Mountabatten , Peter Ball and other links to sex offenders , they often don't even know that 'royal' wills are sealed

It's true that our media are complicit in keeping these things under wraps ( with one or two honourable exceptions ) but they just accept what they are told

Sheep is right I'm afraid in most cases

Bashing the bishops ...not.

I wish you were better acquainted with the facts. It was 2 women and 1 man arrested at 2am. This is longstanding volunteers with the Westminster Council Night street safety team who wear uniforms with MetPolice on them. They weren't just randoms wandering around with rape alarms.

They were kept in for 14 hours. Yet you call these volunteers 'toddlers'. I hope you never need help one day.

In case people missed it, this is the discussion on Today. I am surprised it was the 8.10 slot - that's the high profile slot.

Today - 08/05/2023 - BBC Sounds

Yes. And the uniforms they wear have the Met Police logo on them.

Interesting that the Mail chose to include images from the BLM protests in their "frightening the horses" piece

It reminds me that absolutely nobody's commented on what their views of the arrests would have been, had they been targeted at those with a protected characteristic ... odd that

There's misinformation both sides. Even Republic have figures they more or less admit they've pulled out of thin air on their site. I'd wager that most people who aren't clued up on the things you mention are actually indifferent to the RF rather than super supportive and ignorant.

@Tarantullah the point you are (wilfully?) missing is that this isn't about whether or not people like or dislike the RF. It is about the way freedoms to protest peacefully have been eroded. It is about people from the actual Council being arrested for doing their job, on entirely spurious grounds. It is about the way people seem to think that horses are fine with Royalist banners and noise but will somehow spook at banners and noise from those who are not Royalist. It is about the way the law is applied to one side but not the other.

If people cannot see this, they are indeed sheep.

It was 2 women and 1 man arrested at 2am. This is longstanding volunteers with the Westminster Council Night street safety team who wear uniforms with MetPolice on them. They weren't just randoms wandering around with rape alarms

To be perfectly honest I'd been hoping their "official status" was just another Twitter rumour and that the Met hadn't really pounced on people just doing their jobs ... how utterly embarrassing for them, but then how unsurprising

I was responding to your comment about the 'expensive farce' which actually didn't reference the protests at all.

So no opposition must be allowed to be expressed in case it ruins and Camillas big day

Peaceful protestors arrested on 'speculation ' ( thought crime )

And yet there are Charles and Camilla appearing in a cringeworthy segment on American idol!
How very undignified !
Was it a condition to get the 'headliners ' who are judges on the show ? They must have been panicking about the refusals

One minute he's communing with God behind screens and we lower orders mustn't see - the next on some commercial American game show ?

@Tarantullah the 'expensive farce' comment wasn't mine.

And I see that we are now not just bold but also massive in font!

I was really disappointed at the actions of the police in preemptively arresting and detaining people and quite flimsy and easily dismissed pretexts. It was clear that they arrested Graham Smith to get him out of the way during the ceremony just like other regimes we like to criticise harass political dissidents.

Saying that, the territorial support group (and its predecessors) have a long and checkered history of this sort of thing and the recent law change just allows them to act with increasing impunity as the government have effectively outlawed peaceful protest. It doesn't matter to them that they have arrested volunteers and damaged the efforts of their colleagues in community policing. These are the macho men of the police and their word is law.

Wow, Marsh, the police person they had on R4 sounded extremely hostile (or maybe he was hungover!) and not very articulate. As you well know seems to be his catchphrase. What a charmer.

And the Met didn't even have the decency to appear on the programme to explain themselves.

I can't imagine for a moment what the Met police would have against rape alarms.

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Novella4 - There's also republicans who have no idea about the Coronation. People thinking that the crowns were especially made for the day, that the robes and garments King Charles wore were all especially made for the day, that the coach is made of solid gold, etc. This is just some of the nonsense I have read over the last few weeks/days.

Well this is interesting. I wonder if Australian and New Zealand police will allow protests

King Charles could soon visit Australia and New Zealand as part of his next overseas visits | Daily Mail Online

Just Stop Oil now holding a protest
twitter.com/JustStop_Oil/status/1655526684790071299?s=20

What a delightful man in the Range Rover in that vid, shouting "cunts!" with a young child in the car next to him.

Sorry, extremists like just stop oil blocking roads are not helping and are giving the media and right-wing politicians reason to crack down on protest.

I am all for the right to protest but in my view that cannot include to disrupt traffic and people trying to go about their business.

Republic protest peacefully

They liaise with the police and had informed the police every step of the way .

This whole PR Charles party nonsense is paid for by the tax payer .

Royalists can cheer and wave
People who object can boo and chant
Except that isn't what happened . The police issues a statement saying 'tolerance ' would be low for any protest
The world must have a certain image of how we all support the monarchy when we do not

Meanwhile on this most precious of days , so precious that peaceful protestors must be stopped, Charles and Camilla appear on American Idol in a tacky awkward AF 'skit'

@GoldenRetriever4 you're still doing Minority Report. We do not arrest people for things they haven't done yet. We do not arrest people because a completely different group of people have done things that are unacceptable.

And protests are supposed to be disruptive, as are strikes. They'd be pointless otherwise.

@pointythings

Republic weren’t planning a disruptive protest, which is the key point here. There should be a distinction in my view between those who want to protest in a non-disruptive way and extremists like Extinction Rebellion, who are counter-productive.

These groups are giving the police and government an excuse to treat all protesters the same, which is of no benefit to anyone. Imo it is right that those who block traffic are arrested and dealt with, but the police should not be targeting those behaving peacefully.

@GoldenRetriever4 it doesn't matter that one group gave the police 'an excuse'. The new law was drafted in the knowledge that it would be used exactly as it was on Saturday. And that would have happened anyway because we have a party in government who will not tolerate dissent. They brought in voter ID to suppress votes for the opposition, they brought in the new law on protests to suppress protests against their corruption and their policies. This government knows what it's doing and intends to do it. They need no excuses.