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AIBU to want to help DS stop being so sensitive?

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Hoollaaahooops · 05/05/2023 16:12

Over the past couple of years my DS, 8, has grown more and more sensitive, currently it’s impacting friendships and even families interactions with him so I want to help develop resilience.

A recent example was my sister was chatting to DS and DD (5) and DD asked if my sister thought she would look nice when she is an old lady, my sister then jokes ‘didn’t you know, some babies when born look like little old people so I already know you’ll look nice when you’re old’ cue lots of laughter from DD. DD then asked if her brother also looked like an old man when born, my sister said of course, babies look a little wrinkly when they come out so DS also looked like a cute little old man. DS laughed for about a second then burst out crying, got really angry at my sister and started shouting that his aunt was being mean to him, he didn’t want to be an old man, and that he never looked like a little old man. He then stormed out the room after kicking his chair over. Obviously interactions like this are putting people off spending time with him, as even the most light hearted comment or joke is taken so seriously. It doesn’t help that DD is so confident and can really take and enjoys lighthearted conversations and practical jokes.

Im working with a play therapist (as he has gone through trauma in his childhood which is why he is so sensitive) who has suggested modelling gentle teasing to help show him that people can playfully tease each other and it’s not some form of attack. However I’ve had a few mean comments from other parents when discussing this with them, so wanted to see if I was being unreasonable for trying to (in their words) ‘change my sons nature’ as apparently sensitivity isn’t something to be ‘fixed’

Currently as it’s early days I’m modelling being teased myself and showing an appropriate response, but it will be worked up to gentle teasing for him to be able to identify when people are joking and when people are being mean.

If anyone else has super sensitive children and had other ways to help I’d also be grateful to hear other techniques to compliment what I’m already doing too, as it’s really impacting him socially.

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SchoolShenanigans · 05/05/2023 19:49

Stompythedinosaur · 05/05/2023 16:30

Here's what I teach the kids I work with - something is only a joke if everyone's laughing.

It doesn't matter if you think he's too sensitive, it clearly isn't fun for him to have those sort of comments made, and his aunt should stop.

You focus seems to be on how other people feel about him being upset, rather than where it should be, on other people saying things he finds hurtful.

There are lots of reasons why kids find it had to take these sorts of comments - trauma is one reason, social communication misunderstandings are another. He hasn't just decided to be upset in order to get on your nerves. Kids become more resilient when they feel safe, so the best thing you can do is unsure no one is being unkind in this way.

Aw, if only we could all just stop anyone being unkind to them ever.

The world isn't like that. They will be faced with sarcasm and challenges at every step of their childhood at school, and at work/social life when an adult.

Trying to desensitise your kid is a KIND thing to do. He obviously currently associate any criticism, however gentle or in jest it is, as a personal knock on his character which must feel awful. Much better to see if he can start to accept it.

Garethkeenansstapler · 05/05/2023 19:50

Anyway OP. The trauma puts things in a slightly different light (more gentle approach needed) but yes he needs to toughen up and realise that laughing at yourself isn’t just something to grit your teeth and get through, it’s actually enjoyable, and can make you very popular and likeable.

MonsterFiesta · 05/05/2023 19:53

Playful teasing is a normal and beneficial part of healthy relationships. The line between helpful and harmful teasing might sometimes be hard to perceive, or inadvertently crossed, but statements like ‘teasing is bullying’, and similar sentiments expressed in this thread, are absurd.

Marigoldilock · 05/05/2023 19:55

Mycathatesmecuddling · 05/05/2023 16:43

@Barnbrack s suggestion sounds far nicer than deliberately teasing someone who finds teasing hard to deal with in order to 'make them more resilient'

I was a very sensitive child who was teased a lot by my parents to make me less sensitive but all it did was make me feel powerless. There is a power dynamic in adult child relationships that need to be acknowledged. So when a parent teases a child that child is put under pressure to react in a way that makes the adult happy. But if the child tries to tease an adult because they haven't got the maturity of conversation they can be told off for being cheeky or rude and they certainly cannot apply pressure for how the adult is supposed to react

So if the trauma related to any kind of situation where the child was made to feel powerless or controlled by an adult etc then this deliberate teasing will be making the situation worse not better

I am now a resilient adult with a good sense of humour. But that's despite my parents not because of them. It took several years after leaving home to feel comfortable around teasing and to be confident in my own skin.

This is so spot on!

KeyanSt · 05/05/2023 20:00

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Applequash · 05/05/2023 20:03

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Issue here is legitimacy, the OPs son, like mine and some others get upset about the tiniest of things, it’s impossible to never upset them as the most innocent comment can trigger them.

Its tiring, embarrassing and really isolating as after a while people don’t want to hang out with you and your children if they have to be constantly aware of what they’re saying.

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Nightlystroll · 05/05/2023 20:25

The whole world won't change to accommodate someone who is ultra sensitive. It will just bulldoze over them. The adage of it's only a joke if everyone is laughing sounds sensible in the sterile atmosphere of a classroom. But its logical conclusion is that no one can laugh unless everyone finds something funny, and that isn't realistic. Leaving aside nastiness, all groups tease each other, it's a sign of affection and acceptance. It's where you learn boundaries of how far to push and when to back off. If someone continually whines over things or kicks off, they'll just be omitted so the group can have a laugh without them.

Applequash · 05/05/2023 20:27

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It’s legitimate to them, but it shouldn’t be. That’s the issue. In life most friendships and bonds are forged by a shared sense of humour, which sadly these children don’t have.

It’s something many professionals do advocate for parents to work on, not just leave children being so overly sensitive to basic comments and lighthearted banter.

Greenfairydust · 05/05/2023 20:31

So your son has gone through trauma and you are asking why he is not coping with ''teasing''?

I really despair sometimes.

Also you need to accept people are different. Because you are a ''jokey'' family does not mean your son has to fan of silly jokes.

I am not sure your kid is really the problem here...

cadburyegg · 05/05/2023 20:34

Interesting thread because my 8yo ds is the same. Super sensitive but also very clingy to me and will fly into rages if asked to do homework or practise times tables. He struggles to go into school or be away from me for any length of time. It's an exhausting combination.

I don't know how to handle it tbh but you're not alone.

I might consider some private play therapy or counselling for him.

Thing is I remember being similar as a child. I used to have a very short fuse. It has got better over time. I wonder if my parents tolerated it because I was a girl, and maybe (even subconsciously) we expect boys to be more emotionally robust?

Coxspurplepippin · 05/05/2023 20:39

There is nothing in the op's sister's comments that could be construed as bullying or even teasing. It does sound as if your DS is a bit oversensitive, and he does need to learn how to manage his feelings, so following the advice of the play therapist seems like a good idea.

Garethkeenansstapler · 05/05/2023 20:44

Greenfairydust · 05/05/2023 20:31

So your son has gone through trauma and you are asking why he is not coping with ''teasing''?

I really despair sometimes.

Also you need to accept people are different. Because you are a ''jokey'' family does not mean your son has to fan of silly jokes.

I am not sure your kid is really the problem here...

So no jokes, ever?

Why is humour so demonised and dismissed on mumsnet? It’s all that keeps me going some days.

Applequash · 05/05/2023 20:56

Garethkeenansstapler · 05/05/2023 20:44

So no jokes, ever?

Why is humour so demonised and dismissed on mumsnet? It’s all that keeps me going some days.

Many on here lack the ability to build friendships, most likely due to having no sense of humour at all. Sad really

Genevie82 · 05/05/2023 21:12

@DIYandEatCake

Lovely post - spot on x

HadalyEve · 05/05/2023 21:12

Garethkeenansstapler · 05/05/2023 19:48

You’re super sensitive. Saying babies look like little old men ‘yes even you Jimmy!’ is not fucking bullying. And people who cannot take a joke, laugh at themselves or even realise when something is intended as humour are utterly tiresome and usually friendless. Sure go ahead and teach kids that any attempt at humour from other people is ‘bullying’ and see how much fun they get out of life.

I did not say “fucking bullying” once in my post so you actually sound more sensitive than I as you’re OTT angry at my opinion so I must have touched a nerve.

I am sorry that you cannot enjoy life and have fun without making a “friend” the butt of your jokes. Are you sure you are not the tiresome and friendless one? I have tons of friends as do my children and larger family and these are friends who would not stop at anything to be there for us, or us for them.

HadalyEve · 05/05/2023 21:16

Nightlystroll · 05/05/2023 20:25

The whole world won't change to accommodate someone who is ultra sensitive. It will just bulldoze over them. The adage of it's only a joke if everyone is laughing sounds sensible in the sterile atmosphere of a classroom. But its logical conclusion is that no one can laugh unless everyone finds something funny, and that isn't realistic. Leaving aside nastiness, all groups tease each other, it's a sign of affection and acceptance. It's where you learn boundaries of how far to push and when to back off. If someone continually whines over things or kicks off, they'll just be omitted so the group can have a laugh without them.

Groups that tease are not the only social groups on the planet. 😕
Being excluded from “mean girl” groups isn’t the deterrence you think it is.

JazbayGrapes · 05/05/2023 21:27

You need to accept that this is his personality and treat him with more respect. Build his confidence up, Channel his sensitivity into something constructive (i.e. look after animals).

Banter is all about time and place. What would be a funny joke over a pint of beer, is completely inappropiate at work.

HadalyEve · 05/05/2023 21:28

SchoolShenanigans · 05/05/2023 19:49

Aw, if only we could all just stop anyone being unkind to them ever.

The world isn't like that. They will be faced with sarcasm and challenges at every step of their childhood at school, and at work/social life when an adult.

Trying to desensitise your kid is a KIND thing to do. He obviously currently associate any criticism, however gentle or in jest it is, as a personal knock on his character which must feel awful. Much better to see if he can start to accept it.

Should parents also hit their kids around a bit as well as say they looked like a wrinkly old man as a baby, as in one ugly baby while laughing at them? After all bullies are rampant in school. By your logic it would be a kindness to desensitise a kid by giving them a few good surprise wallops so they can toughen up for future bullying. Learn to accept that nowhere is safe for them.

Isthatascratchonmygrandmother · 05/05/2023 21:31

My DD (8) is like this. She takes offence to everything. I could say 'DD can you close the door behind you please?' And she thinks it's a telling off. I can say 'you've got a right bedhead today lass' and she's in tears. Dh started saying 'what you laughing at?' everytime she cries and she immediately explodes into laughter. Every single time. So we believe its just a melting pot of emotions at this age. She also has ADHD so we know she can't help it at this stage and she's got considerably more sensitive since she turned 8. The 'what you laughing at' is really good at de-escalating her minor troubles because she often reflects afterwards and says she doesn't know why she cried at that and then we all chuckle and move on fairly quickly. We are mindful to support her if she has a genuine worry or anxiety about something but if she takes offence to something silly we quickly shut it down.

Irritateandunreasonable · 05/05/2023 21:34

Tinkerbyebye · 05/05/2023 16:24

Teasing is bullying, it’s as simple as that. Some take it, some don’t. I hate being teased about anything, is a nasty activity and your sister owes your son an apology

Goodness. That’s ridiculous.

JazbayGrapes · 05/05/2023 21:39

Should parents also hit their kids around a bit as well as say they looked like a wrinkly old man as a baby, as in one ugly baby while laughing at them? After all bullies are rampant in school.

I've actually seen people suggest that a lot. Hit your kids "with love" so they don't murder their school bullies in the future.

Nightlystroll · 05/05/2023 22:29

Groups that tease are not the only social groups on the planet. 😕
Being excluded from “mean girl” groups isn’t the deterrence you think it is.

Teasing isn't about being mean. I said nastiness is something different. But do you never go out with friends and laugh over different things you've all done and said? Joked and pulled people's legs. There's no harm in laughing at mistakes you've made or other people joking about it. To not be able to laugh at yourself shows such fragility that I don't think can be healthy for your mental health and resilience.

Garethkeenansstapler · 05/05/2023 22:33

HadalyEve · 05/05/2023 21:28

Should parents also hit their kids around a bit as well as say they looked like a wrinkly old man as a baby, as in one ugly baby while laughing at them? After all bullies are rampant in school. By your logic it would be a kindness to desensitise a kid by giving them a few good surprise wallops so they can toughen up for future bullying. Learn to accept that nowhere is safe for them.

Yeah, smacking a kid is the same as gentle good natured teasing.

Good grief the extrapolation on here, I’m amazed some of you have made it this far in life with such dramatic attitudes.

JazbayGrapes · 05/05/2023 22:38

Yeah, smacking a kid is the same as gentle good natured teasing.

It's only "good natured" if the other side finds it so. If you know it upsets them, and you keep on winding them up - then you're an arsehole.

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