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Council House advice

229 replies

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 14:02

Hope everyone is well. I am a Mommy of a ACC baby . It means Agenisis of the corpus collosum. My son is a bit delayed in development. He is going to be 4 in August and I am struggling with his potty training. If you look at him he seems perfectly normal but living with him is a story for another day . Anyway we live with my inlaws and my son finds it hard coping. When my family (my inlaws have a large family ) come over , he can't tolerate it . He starts crying and screaming, banging doors and throwing toys and becomes very upset. He needs his own place. My husband can't afford a house and I don't work, I am a SAHM to two boys. We have applied for social housing but I'm currently on position 105 200 on flats , and on houses its in 400s and 300s. Could anyone advise us how to go up the band ? We are on band c and we really need the house 🏡

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TallulahBetty · 05/05/2023 14:50

Don't just look at council houses - register for ALL housing associations in your area.

Dartmoorcheffy · 05/05/2023 14:50

If your husband is working then look at buying shared ownership on a house. Most new build developers include affordable housing on their plans.

Dishwashersaurous · 05/05/2023 14:52

And talk to the housing people at the council about private rental. They will be able to give you an idea about whether you might be able to get any help with rent.

Some councils even provide loans for the deposit etc

Nimbostratus100 · 05/05/2023 14:52

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 14:22

Dad can't handle him. When he throws his fits I'm the only one who can calm him down. He starts banging his head .

dad needs to learn to handle him then, doesn't he, He is his father's responsibility as much as yours, then you can get a job.

hedgehoglurker · 05/05/2023 14:56

If you don't pay rent, I'm assuming this means your husband doesn't either. What does he do with his wages, as he should be at least saving up to house his family? Are you involved in your family finances, or is it all kept by your husband? Is he happy living with his parents and doesn't want to leave?

LIZS · 05/05/2023 14:56

Is your dh contributing towards the parents' household costs? I'm struggling to understand why he cannot save if it is your cleaning that is in return for the room. Some councils offer a deposit guarantee scheme if that is an issue, others will have private landlords and housing associations who rent to those on their list. Tbh you really need to speak to the housing department to establish all the options. You may need to be declared homeless by your pil issuing you with notice to get higher priority or temporary accommodation. But bear in mind if you are offered social housing, temporary or longer term, it won't necessarily be local to family or near the current nursery/school.

ThisSingleMama · 05/05/2023 14:58

So you don't pay

Rent
Gas/elec
Water
Council tax
Wifi/tv services

Food?

You clean in return. Kind of begs the question really, where is your money going??

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 15:01

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Thank you x

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Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 15:03

ThisSingleMama · 05/05/2023 14:58

So you don't pay

Rent
Gas/elec
Water
Council tax
Wifi/tv services

Food?

You clean in return. Kind of begs the question really, where is your money going??

I already said my husband pays the bills, clothing , food , tuition bills and mosque bills and he doesn't earn that much . We are trying to save what we can save .

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Nimbostratus100 · 05/05/2023 15:04

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 14:38

I had posted for advice . Not for a bunch of people attacking me. You have no idea of my situation and do you really think I would apply for a council house if I could afford my own house? Would you be saying "should have thought before you had children " if I didn't have Khan in my name ? I am trying to take the advice and some people have been polite. My husband works and contributes towards the bills , food , clothing etc. I CANNOT work atm. I would have liked to as it would have given me a chance to get out of the house . Do u have any idea what it is like to have a child with additional needs ? My son goes to nursery . They CAN handle him . No one else can they all try but he is hard to control. If there is an emergency, people do look after him. I came on here for support not to have you all judge me ! I recently applied and didn't know how the system works. Do you really think you all are perfect ?

dont be daft, who on earth do you think looks at a user name or pays any attention to it before replying

Pinkdelight3 · 05/05/2023 15:04

Seriously, no one notices your user name. This is standard advice to someone in your situation, nothing to do with race. It doesn't add up that you're not paying rent, live with in-laws and haven't saved up anything to get a rental in all these years since having DC. It's not about affording a nicer house. It's about affording any kind of home for your family, paying your way. What was the plan? Obviously it's harder with an SEN child but lots of posters on here have that too and tougher circumstances, no family, no DH, no one working. It's not about being attacked. It's fair enough to ask the questions.

MakesMeFeelSad · 05/05/2023 15:04

Well generally single people do wait longer, they certainly seem to in our area

They don't always put you in temp accommodation either, especially if you have a child with a disability

Are you making sure you are claiming everything you are entitled to? DLA , maybe carers allowance?

OhmygodDont · 05/05/2023 15:05

Honestly unless your in-laws kick you out you will pretty much be there until his a teenager.

I’ve a friend over crowded by one room, mixed sex children sharing over the councils stated ages. One with disabilities etc. They have been bidding for over 4 years and still rarely place in the top 100.

Our council controls all the housing association applicants as well so not getting on multiple lists.

Friend made homeless with four children, rehoused within 2 months of being a hostel.

shammalammadingdong · 05/05/2023 15:09

Do u have any idea what it is like to have a child with additional needs

Lots of us do, yes. IT doesn't mean your DH doesn't have to step up. It doesn't mean the most sensible thing for you to do is private rent.

Your child goes to nursery...get a job.

foreverbasil · 05/05/2023 15:11

I'm a professional working with families in your situation. The situation varies hugely from area to area. My advice would be

  • get on as many housing lists for as many providers as you can, they all have different processes. It's ridiculous and time consuming but it can work
  • don't be restrictive about the area you want to live in
  • do get supporting letters from healthcare professionals explaining why you need to be rehoused and specifically what you need. This can get you to band a in most cases
  • once you are on band a, be really proactive with bids

Unfortunately if you are on universal credit your chances of social housing are very slim.
Before anyone jumps on and says I'm talking rubbish....it varies from area to area (see above). This is the way it works here!

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 15:13

Thank you to everyone who gave genuine advice. To the bored women coming on here looking for a little bit of a thrill on attacking people who have come on this for advice, shame on you . It is mum's net , not trolls net.

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Blackbyrd · 05/05/2023 15:13

You're obviously highly stressed OP, it would help you to have a plan of action. Firstly, forget the fake eviction letters. Quite rightly now, housing departments are viewing these as that the person concerned has made themselves voluntarily homeless and accept no obligation to rehouse. Thank all the people who have abused the system for that
Based on what you've said, you would probably have a three bedroom need as regards private rented housing. Look up the Local Housing Allowance for a three bed property for your area, and get someone to do a benefit check for you so you can see if you can afford a private rental. Also make sure that any child disability benefits are being claimed. You would need to apply for the extra bedroom rate based on your boy's disabilities once moved in
Another option is Shared Ownership, have a look at any new housing developments and see if any affordable properties are available. Also approach all your local housing associations to apply for housing directly if possible. Some give priority to working applicants
Medical evidence is always useful so gather it as you go along and keep it safe. Apply for Universal Credit if you haven't already, being in receipt of that will enable you to apply to your local authority for a Discretionary Housing Payment to cover a deposit and first month's rent on a private rental should you go down that route. Try and book a session with a local housing advisor as you need their local knowledge. You have options, good luck

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 15:14

foreverbasil · 05/05/2023 15:11

I'm a professional working with families in your situation. The situation varies hugely from area to area. My advice would be

  • get on as many housing lists for as many providers as you can, they all have different processes. It's ridiculous and time consuming but it can work
  • don't be restrictive about the area you want to live in
  • do get supporting letters from healthcare professionals explaining why you need to be rehoused and specifically what you need. This can get you to band a in most cases
  • once you are on band a, be really proactive with bids

Unfortunately if you are on universal credit your chances of social housing are very slim.
Before anyone jumps on and says I'm talking rubbish....it varies from area to area (see above). This is the way it works here!

Thank you ❤️

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ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 05/05/2023 15:15

Would you be saying "should have thought before you had children " if I didn't have Khan in my name ?

Give over! I’ve been on MN for only a couple years and this really is the standard response. Most people don’t even look at someone’s username. They see the title, read the thread and comment.

Some Housing Associations still have external registers. I’m in London and in my local area, many don’t however I don’t know how it is in different places in the country. You need so speak with your Local Authority.

There’s nothing about your situation that will change your banding but you can do certain things to help how close you may come to getting a place. Such as filling out a health form and making sure the council know about your child’s disability.

Your best bet is going to be private renting. If your husbands salary is low then you will most likely get help by UC. The hard bit is actually finding a place that will take someone on UC. If the council didn’t house me in my private rental, I’d still be in temporary accommodation now. Good luck but I doubt you’ll get a council place anytime soon

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 15:15

Blackbyrd · 05/05/2023 15:13

You're obviously highly stressed OP, it would help you to have a plan of action. Firstly, forget the fake eviction letters. Quite rightly now, housing departments are viewing these as that the person concerned has made themselves voluntarily homeless and accept no obligation to rehouse. Thank all the people who have abused the system for that
Based on what you've said, you would probably have a three bedroom need as regards private rented housing. Look up the Local Housing Allowance for a three bed property for your area, and get someone to do a benefit check for you so you can see if you can afford a private rental. Also make sure that any child disability benefits are being claimed. You would need to apply for the extra bedroom rate based on your boy's disabilities once moved in
Another option is Shared Ownership, have a look at any new housing developments and see if any affordable properties are available. Also approach all your local housing associations to apply for housing directly if possible. Some give priority to working applicants
Medical evidence is always useful so gather it as you go along and keep it safe. Apply for Universal Credit if you haven't already, being in receipt of that will enable you to apply to your local authority for a Discretionary Housing Payment to cover a deposit and first month's rent on a private rental should you go down that route. Try and book a session with a local housing advisor as you need their local knowledge. You have options, good luck

Thank you hun !

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SainsBrie · 05/05/2023 15:15

Having a child with additional needs does not absolve your husband of parenting duties. If he wanted to be an equal parent, and take some of the strain off of you then he very much could. It would take time and effort though.

As for the racist thing, well that’s just ridiculous. I didn’t pay any attention to your username.

ThisSingleMama · 05/05/2023 15:17

If you were lucky enough to get a house or flat then how would you afford it if you are struggling now with zero rent and housing costs?

5128gap · 05/05/2023 15:18

Your housing circumstances sound as though you should be eligible to be dealt with under homelessness legislation because you occupy accommodation it's not reasonable for you to live in. Contact Shelter or Citizens Advice for advice on this.
You can also go and see your local councillor and MP although they wilk like send you to Shelter/CA.
Ask your GP for a letter about your sons condition.
Make regular visits to your neighbourhood office to stay on their radar.

ReadersD1gest · 05/05/2023 15:19

Akkhan94 · 05/05/2023 14:47

I want advice, that is why I posted . You are attacking, not giving advice. Would I really be applying for a council flat if I could afford a nicer house? I don't pay rent to my inlaws . I do all the housework instead.

Why aren't you able to save if you've been living rent free for the past 4+ years? Confused

shammalammadingdong · 05/05/2023 15:19

5128gap · 05/05/2023 15:18

Your housing circumstances sound as though you should be eligible to be dealt with under homelessness legislation because you occupy accommodation it's not reasonable for you to live in. Contact Shelter or Citizens Advice for advice on this.
You can also go and see your local councillor and MP although they wilk like send you to Shelter/CA.
Ask your GP for a letter about your sons condition.
Make regular visits to your neighbourhood office to stay on their radar.

How is it not reasonable for her to live in?

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