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To put a lock on the kitchen door?

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FoodFrustration · 05/05/2023 10:09

My apologies for the length but trying to paint the picture.

DS is 14 and very slim and whilst I appreciate most teenage boys are walking dustbins I just feel that his eating and drinking is getting out of control and his ability not to help himself to things that he's been told not to touch are none existent and its becoming a huge bone of contention.

He refuses to eat breakfast in the morning and often won’t get up in enough time to eat it anyway. I generally make him a packed lunch for school because school lunches were becoming far too expensive to budget for and he moaned about the ques, his friends I believe also take a packed lunch so hes not the odd one out. Recently he has either been forgetting to take his lunch and then going to the canteen when he knows there is no money on his lunch card or taking it and still going spending money in the canteen on extras and drinks because he never takes his with him. The first I knew of this was when the school contacted me to pay off the debt he had accrued on his card. I explained to him at the time that he can’t be forgetting or choosing not to take his lunch in then going and racking up debts on his empty card because I can’t afford to be hit with unexpected bills so he needs to be more organised. I paid off the debt only for the following week to be hit with another debt, needless to say given our previous discussion I was not happy. Again I told him it needs to stop and have gone as far as leaving his lunch by his bag before I go to work (I leave before he does) but again have been hit with debt if only for drinks. The drinks he buys at school are bottles of flavoured water at over £1 per bottle, I can buy 4 for that price at Aldi so opted to go buy in some bottled drinks for school, I also bought in a load of large bottles of drink for home including the same drink as in the smaller bottles for school. I told him categorically that they were for school because I wasn’t keep paying debts for school drinks which cost 4x the price when we are on a budget. Despite this only an hour later he helped himself to one, when I realised I told him I was not impressed he knows they are for school and there is plenty of other drinks in the fridge. Despite this he later helped himself to another then during the night another one leaving just one left. He says ‘ok’ and ‘sorry’ but then just keeps on doing it! It sounds trivial in this context but is just the tip of the iceburg and was the straw this week that broke the camels back and yesterday morning I put a lock on the fridge so that he can’t get in it when I’m not home or overnight, and put his lunch and a flask of cordial on his bag before leaving the house, he gets home before me and I came home to find he has thrown a huge strop after school when realising he can’t access the fridge that he has somehow managed to completely snap / break / cut through the thick wire cable fridge lock and smashed a chunk of plaster off the wall in the process, before then helping himself to the final bottle of drink he’s been told not too touch when there was loads of other drinks in there! god knows how he hasn’t bust the fridge. There were snacks in the cupboards and cordial to drink so waiting an hour for anything else wouldn’t have killed him.

For context of other things: I’m not much of a drinker but do like the very occasional can of cider as a treat, the problem is once the box is opened he sees this as fair game and helps himself to these too even though he knows its alcohol and not for him, he will put the empty cans back so it looks like none are missing until I get halfway through and realise several are empty so I clearly can’t even have these in now. I’ll buy things for lunches such as cocktail sausages, at a handful a day there is a weeks worth but by the next day the whole box will be gone even though he knows they are for lunches and off limits for just eating. I’ll buy plenty of snacks for the week but in less that 48 hours its almost all gone because he just can’t seem to stop himself once he starts or eat a sensible portion, sometimes I’ll buy a couple of bits that are just for me because I don’t get a look in at most things and even knowing that he’ll eat my bits if he has ran out, if I try hide them he will literally search until he finds them. 18 packets of crisps can be gone in 3 days as can a box of 16 chocolate cupcakes. He will have snacks (crisps / cakes / biscuits) and a sandwich / toast or a pastie or something after school but before tea / dinner (before I get home), He then gets a large portion of food, then he’ll be snacking again not long after and often sneaks down during the night and helps himself to more when he’s been told no more because he’s already had more than enough. One night he ate a full pack of sliced chicken breast pieces that were for the next days lunches for us both.

I’m a single parent on a tight budget, his dad isn’t in the picture and I get no maintenance. I can’t really afford to keep replacing the stuff he’s eaten but have too try because otherwise he’d have nothing for lunch because he eats his lunch stuff for extra snacks after school or when hes eaten all the good stuff and then just racks up debts at school. I’m at my wits end with it all and at never getting a look in at anything before it is gone. The constant arguing over his greediness and lack of thought about leaving any for me is really starting to wear me down. He’s been told its not just about the food but the lack of respect he is showing helping himself to things he knows aren’t his or that he’s been told ‘no’ too.

So would I be unreasonable to put a lock on the internal kitchen door and only give him a front door key (he goes through the back at present) to physically prevent him accessing the kitchen when I am not there or overnight?

If you think I am being unreasonable can you suggest other ways of tackling this because I am at a loss.

post edited by MNHQ as it contained a word we don't allow on the boards.

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gettingolderbutcooler · 05/05/2023 10:30

I say to mine, when it's gone it's gone. That's it for the week.

usernother · 05/05/2023 10:35

I'd try the lock on the door but he may just break it off. I'd go with the once he eats something he's been told not to eat it's not replaced until the following week. Is it possible to ask the school for his card to be blocked? If he has no lunch that's his choice.

takealettermsjones · 05/05/2023 10:37

I don't think you're unreasonable at all but given that he broke the fridge lock/damaged the wall, would he just kick down the door?

What are the consequences for him when he does this kind of thing? He sounds like he has no respect.

Can you contact the school and put a ban on him being able to buy things on 'credit'?

If so, then I'd stop buying the drinks, cakes, crisps etc. There's water in the tap!

I think you need to stop having alcohol in the house too, or at least lock it away in a safe or something. He's only 14.

whoruntheworldgirls · 05/05/2023 10:38

For one i would confiscate his lunch card and tell school why you have done it. Stop buying the flavoured water, he can have tap water, his own fault for ignoring the rules. No more treat stuff, if you want anything hide it in you car/a safe in your room.
The packed lunch stuff i would look at a fridge safe that has a code.

Lennybenny · 05/05/2023 10:40

I sort of know what you mean. My 17yo will ewt all the snacks quickly even though they're planned for 3 days.

Don't buy the snacks. Don't buy all the little bits because that's what he's eating and use the money saved for the school debt...but don't tell him.

The lock would possibly work but the whole tantrum thing from a fridge lock could mean a massive mess for you to clear up/deal with.

Lennybenny · 05/05/2023 10:41

How is he able to still use the card with no funds?
Ask the school to block it...unless they know he'll kick off if he doesn't get anything.

shellyleppard · 05/05/2023 10:43

It might be worth talking to your doctor??? Overactive thyroid syndrome can cause extreme hunger and weight loss. As in non stop eating. If it's not that then school need to block his dinner card. It could be he's embarrassed by taking in packed lunches?? And he's buying stuff to keep up with the crowd??? Single mum of two teenage boys myself who tend to eat anything and everything

Mabelface · 05/05/2023 10:43

I'd tell him that if it continues, then his pocket money will be used to replace what he's eaten. He'd be paying for the damage caused by breaking the fridge lock too. What consequences are you currently using?

FoodFrustration · 05/05/2023 10:43

takealettermsjones · 05/05/2023 10:37

I don't think you're unreasonable at all but given that he broke the fridge lock/damaged the wall, would he just kick down the door?

What are the consequences for him when he does this kind of thing? He sounds like he has no respect.

Can you contact the school and put a ban on him being able to buy things on 'credit'?

If so, then I'd stop buying the drinks, cakes, crisps etc. There's water in the tap!

I think you need to stop having alcohol in the house too, or at least lock it away in a safe or something. He's only 14.

I don’t buy alcohol now for this reason I thought I’d made that clear, but its annoying I can’t just have something in and trust it to be ok.

I am going to have to speak to the school about the lunch card, I’m not sure it can be blocked.

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LittleOwl153 · 05/05/2023 10:44

Call the school. Tell them he is not to have access to credit at the canteen as he abuses it and that you will not be paying anymore bills. And mean it. They'll soon block his card.

Lock on the kitchen door... seems drastic but clearly you have to protect what food you have from him binging if you cannot afford to keep replacing. Can you afford an additional fridge and put it somewhere else? In our house rather would be the garage - which is easily locked. I do think you need somewhere properly locked though.

It sounds like a nightmare.

FoodFrustration · 05/05/2023 10:46

whoruntheworldgirls · 05/05/2023 10:38

For one i would confiscate his lunch card and tell school why you have done it. Stop buying the flavoured water, he can have tap water, his own fault for ignoring the rules. No more treat stuff, if you want anything hide it in you car/a safe in your room.
The packed lunch stuff i would look at a fridge safe that has a code.

Confiscating the lunch card is useless, they don’t actually need to have it on them, if they say they forgot it they can just add to the account using their name.

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LilacLemur · 05/05/2023 10:49

Email the school to say you will not be repaying any monies due and it's down to them to block the card.

Put it in writing.

DriedFlowersLiveForever · 05/05/2023 10:54

Email school, as of now you will not be paying anymore lunch/snack bills. If they let him have anything tell them in writing it is in them.
I would put a lock on the door, I would also take him to the GP to rule out anything medical.
Other than this what is his behaviour like?

FoodFrustration · 05/05/2023 10:58

He doesn’t really get much pocket money, late and often loses it to other things of late but I have done the removal of pocket money to replace some things on occasion but it makes no difference.

Removing tech just makes him worse as he says if he doesn’t have that to occupy him then he’ll just eat more because he has nothing else to do and makes his attitude even worse.

Grounding him is pointless as he doesn’t go out loads anyway, its hard to enforce when I am at work and the more time he is indoors the more chance he has to eat.

I’ve tried the ‘when its gone its gone’ thing but when he’s eating stuff for lunches during the night its me that ends up going without too and he just runs up a debt at school. I’m going to follow the suggestions of speaking to the school about blocking his usage.

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SybilWrites · 05/05/2023 10:59

I have a 15 yo ds too. His school is different in that they don't let them get into debt on their account.

I buy things specifically for him to eat - they do have a huge appetite at this age ime (my ds is very thin!). I buy lots of cereal and bread and eggs. I buy one multi pack of crisps between my 3 dc and once it's gone it's gone. I don't buy drinks (apart from fruit juice for brunch at the weekend). I don't buy biscuits or chocolate as they eat them all. He does occasionally eat my dd's lunch things. He now snacks mostly on cereal, and omelettes.

Anyway, my answer was 1. Not to buy anything interesting beyond cereal and bread and 2. to tell him that once the snacks have gone, they've gone.

ThatsGoingToHurt · 05/05/2023 11:01

Do you have a car and could you pick the snacks in the boot?

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 05/05/2023 11:05

Let the poor child eat and just foot the bill. You sound very resentful of him.

Catsbreakfast · 05/05/2023 11:10

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 05/05/2023 11:05

Let the poor child eat and just foot the bill. You sound very resentful of him.

Let the poor child eat? And who’s paying for that 🤣. The “poor child” has broken the fridge door open and put a hole in the wall. I don’t think that sort of behaviour needs to be indulged and likewise where is the money supposed to come from?

greyhairnomore · 05/05/2023 11:12

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 05/05/2023 11:05

Let the poor child eat and just foot the bill. You sound very resentful of him.

He's not a poor child. There's enough to eat. He's broken the fridge lock.
He's putting his mum in a debt situation she can't afford.

Comefromaway · 05/05/2023 11:12

I contacted ds's school about similar debt he was running up and they told me they had a policy of never refusing a child food so it was just up to me to pay it.

My ds is autistic with little self-regulation so I resorted to keeping non perishable items in the boot of my car.

greyhairnomore · 05/05/2023 11:13

@FoodFrustration is there a point in him seeing the GP ? Just to rule out a medical cause ?

usernother · 05/05/2023 11:16

@FoodFrustration
Removing tech just makes him worse as he says if he doesn’t have that to occupy him then he’ll just eat more because he has nothing else to do and makes his attitude even worse.

Well he would say that wouldn't he. Remove the tech and stick to it.

FoodFrustration · 05/05/2023 11:18

DriedFlowersLiveForever · 05/05/2023 10:54

Email school, as of now you will not be paying anymore lunch/snack bills. If they let him have anything tell them in writing it is in them.
I would put a lock on the door, I would also take him to the GP to rule out anything medical.
Other than this what is his behaviour like?

Behaviour wise he’s always been a good kid and very well liked by everyone, we used to be very close and did everything together but these days all hes really interested in is playing on his computer. In the last 12 months his behaviour has certainly dwindled we’ve had a few incidences of stealing, issues with vaping and a case of property damage at school recently. He’s generally not bad but theres definitely been some misbehaviour creeping in and a lack of respect for me is certainly starting to show. He rarely does as he’s asked. Lots of my friends say he’s just a typical teen and in the grand scheme of things hes quite a nice kid who could be a lot worse!!!

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TeeBee · 05/05/2023 11:19

Comefromaway · 05/05/2023 11:12

I contacted ds's school about similar debt he was running up and they told me they had a policy of never refusing a child food so it was just up to me to pay it.

My ds is autistic with little self-regulation so I resorted to keeping non perishable items in the boot of my car.

Wow, in that case, I'd be replying 'well, I have a policy of not paying bills run up by other people, especially when I've told you not to do so. I won't be paying it, so its up to you what you do'.

milkshakebringsallthebuoystotheyard · 05/05/2023 11:19

@greyhairnomore @Catsbreakfast

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4799496-stepdaughter-eating-too-much-fruit?reply=125940613

Either children can eat what they like, when they like, or they cant.

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