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AIBU to “cancel” my friend coming to help post birth?

524 replies

AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 00:13

I’m 33 weeks pregnant, likely to give birth via c section around 34-36wk (most likely 35) due to a combo of medical reasons which I won’t get fully into, but rather than a standard c-section, it’ll be an up and down cut (open laparotomy) potentially including a hysterectomy and other procedures.

Recovery is going to be tough and potentially include a substantial hospital stay for me. I hoped to get further along than 35ish weeks but for various reasons including a decline in my health, it won’t be possible.

this is my first and (obviously) likely only child.

I have a friend who lives a substantial distance away (flight needed).
While I do have strong local support, my friend offered to come to stay to help me with recovery and the new baby.

Around 16/17 weeks I was considering it and said I’d let her know. We remained in regular contact, but unfortunately, this clearly sounded like a “yes” to her and it became clear she assumed that’s what I meant. I have repeatedly said “we’ll see, and I’m not sure it’s a good idea” but she seems to want to argue it with me and I’ve not had the strength.

this pregnancy has been brutal, if I’m honest, with over 20 hospital admissions and multiple late nights at A+E plus a fair share of mental health struggles, I should’ve been more direct but I did express my concerns to her. I do admit my fault for not putting my foot down. There are many reasons I’ve turned off of the idea, and I’ll include her rebuttals. example:

friend has a 7yr old child. Obviously, the child would come with her. I don’t necessarily feel comfortable hosting a boisterous child, especially while dealing with a potentially difficult recovery road.

friend says “We’d have our own space, we’ll stay out of your way when you need a breather.” (I have a spare room).

I did also say there may be things related to my recovery that are messy, difficult, uncomfortable and she may not want her DC present to witness it. It’ll also be a nightmare for her DC if I have an extended stay in hospital IMHO.
friend says “If needed, DC can be left with a sitter.” But I know the expense for that would be mine to bear (explained further below).

friend has a low income, meaning I will be left footing the bill for her flights, travel, etc.

She knows I can technically afford it, but I’m trying really hard to save money/not touch savings because I’m taking substantial time off of work (and I’m self employed so mat pay etc is limited).
when I mention cost is an issue, suddenly she offers to pay half or “try to get a credit card” (for various reasons I doubt that would work).

I had a scare a few days ago (light bleeding, monitoring session in hospital), now she’s more insistent than ever, to the point where she’s disregarding that I don’t have time to accommodate her, settle her + her child in, travel several hours each way to do airport pick up, etc.

I know she can sense my hesitancy because recently all she wants to talk about is how “difficult” things are at home (she’s in her 30s but lives with her family, whereas I live alone) and how she “can’t wait for a break”. She’s also mentioned how “excited” her DS is to come. It’s becoming very clear to me that it’s less about helping me and more about helping herself, but I don’t see a way of navigating out of this while retaining our previously very lovely friendship of several years.

aibu to cancel this? And WIBU to ask MN for some advice as to how to go about it? I’ve been running around like a blue arsed fly putting my business into rest mode, so to speak, and making sure everything is ready for the baby. But I need to address this soon. Help?

OP posts:
AliceOlive · 04/05/2023 17:28

All about her. And her child must have been given a very different picture from reality if was going to be if he’s upset about it.

I think she intended ti move in and never leave.

SunshineAndFizz · 04/05/2023 17:32

Wow can't believe her response. Your message was great.

Well, I sort of can believe it. It's all been about her. She's told her DC they were having a free holiday, she clearly thought it would be a nice little break for

Americano75 · 04/05/2023 17:32

And there we have it, it was always about her and not you.

ClawedButler · 04/05/2023 17:36

She's proved she was never doing this for you.

How blimmin' DARE she try to guilt you into not only letting her AND her son come to stay at a really difficult time, but pay for the privilege!

Well shot of, I say.

PollyThePixie · 04/05/2023 17:36

Op, that couldn’t have been an easy conversation to have but well done to you for being able for it.

All the best for you and your baby and Please let us know how it all goes for you. 💐

IncompleteSenten · 04/05/2023 17:41

Her choice of words was very revealing wasn't it?
She can't believe you are leaving her in this situation.

Her plan was not to come help you out. That is very clear.

ColdHandsHotHead · 04/05/2023 17:43

I doubt her 7 year old could care less to be honest. This is all about her.

Thesharkradar · 04/05/2023 17:47

Pretty sure our friendship is down the drain now
congratulations!
blimey, talk about self absorbed eh!!
very best of luck to you @AwkwardArmadillo and well done for standing up for yourself at this time!

carkerpartridge · 04/05/2023 17:50

Well done Op, you did the right thing. She was never going to help you, she would have been a massive inconvenience and drain on your finances. You can move on now and prepare for your lovely new baby!

Thesharkradar · 04/05/2023 17:51

reading your posts OP I think there's a good chance that she was planning to permanently stay with you, she'll claim her family have refused to have her back and barricade herself in your spare room.
I think your enhanced mother bear spidey sense has picked this up and that's why you've had strong impulses to throw her off

ThreeRingCircus · 04/05/2023 17:53

Well done OP. The very fact that she was upset for herself and her child shows you this trip was purely for selfish reasons. Did she show any concern for your needs? For your medical issues? What is best for you? No. It's all about her. She's not your friend and I wouldn't be in touch with her again to be honest.

RunningWaterElectricity · 04/05/2023 17:53

Blimey, how awful! what a selfish cow. I'm sorry this so-called friend has put you through this unnecessary stress at such a difficult time.

Humanbiology · 04/05/2023 17:57

AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 12:26

Sorry, I was busy and couldn’t update. I did send a text saying:

“I know you were really worried when X happened, but I’ve had a chat with the midwife, my mother and Y, and we’ve got it from here. I don’t want you to put yourselves out travelling, and I’m not up to accommodating you both right now between X and Y appointments and how generally unwell I feel. After birth, I definitely won’t be in a good enough way to be around (DC name) either, and I can’t commit to paying for his childcare.

It was kind of you to offer, but I’d rather stick with my support network at this time. It’s best for everyone. Maybe we can see each other another time?”

that was an hour ago and I haven’t actually received a response. I’m half expecting to be spammed and argued with, but so far, radio silence. I tried to be nice about it while also being direct.

You was expected to pay for childcare as well😯

eish · 04/05/2023 17:59

I agree that I think she had ulterior motives for moving in permanently. We’ll done for stopping it!

stealtheatingtunnocks · 04/05/2023 18:02

did I miss the bit where she said

“I’m sorry you are having such a hard time, is there anything I can do?”

or make soothing noises about how she just knows you’ll be a fantastic mother and she so pleased you have support because the first few weeks are always hard but your circumstances are extra hard?

Women like that should FOTTFSOFATFOSM. It’s cruel to treat a woman in your situation like that.

I hope you are ok

Batalax · 04/05/2023 18:04

Sorry it came to that but it was a confrontation that had to happen, otherwise she have sussed before now.

BlackPhillipsCheese · 04/05/2023 18:07

She didn’t have much to say to that but cried more and said she couldn’t believe I was “leaving her in this situation”

Well there you go. As suspected, this wasn't for your benefit or to help you.

Thesharkradar · 04/05/2023 18:08

I wonder if her family were also hoping for a very long/permanent break from her and saw you as their last hope, wonder if they'll be in touch trying to talk you round?
Maybe be prepared, just in case OP?

Riverlee · 04/05/2023 18:10

Well done on being tough on the phone - can’t of been easy. Her true colours showed as she made it all about her, and not you.

As others have said, I think she was planning to move into yours long term, but her situation is not your responsibility. She may try to guilt-trip you, but you have not let her down in anyway. Stay strong for you and your baby, and I hope the rest of your pregnancy goes well.

BlackPhillipsCheese · 04/05/2023 18:11

Also OP, please make sure that if anyone has s spare set of keys to your house ( your Dm or friends) you make them aware of the situation.

I wouldn't be surprised if she turned up in your town anyway with "nowhere to go" under the guise of being so worried about you she just had to come.

Sugarfree23 · 04/05/2023 18:12

@AwkwardArmadillo well done standing your ground. She phoned to try and put you on the spot.

Her coming was definitely not for your benefit.
If it ends the friendship between you well so be it, it was never that great a friendship in the first place. She is absolutely out to use you.

Relax as best you can tonight, and enjoy the excitement of the last few weeks of your pregnancy. Its a special time in your life - Enjoy it!

Peachy2005 · 04/05/2023 18:18

Well done @AwkwardArmadillo - delighted for you. That must have been such a difficult conversation but you did brilliantly!

I second the person who said to make sure your mum is in the loop to run interference in case this CF shows up unexpectedly. You really don’t want someone well-meaning letting her into your house. I wouldn’t be reaching out first in a few months either, just let it rest…

At least you’ve dealt with this big worry - everyone here is rooting for you for your upcoming new arrival and hopefully a speedy recovery ❤️‍🩹

Clymene · 04/05/2023 18:19

Oh I'm so sorry @AwkwardArmadillo - what a really upsetting experience for you. You really could do without this when you've got so many health worries. Well done and I hope you can put it behind you.

FWIW years ago, I cut a friend off in a situation where they completely crossed a line. I was so upset about it initially but it didn't take me long to feel utterly relieved. I've never regretted it for a moment since but it took that crisis happening for me to realise how damaging the friendship had been for a long time but I hadn't seen it. Boiled frog and all that.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 04/05/2023 18:19

BlackPhillipsCheese · 04/05/2023 18:11

Also OP, please make sure that if anyone has s spare set of keys to your house ( your Dm or friends) you make them aware of the situation.

I wouldn't be surprised if she turned up in your town anyway with "nowhere to go" under the guise of being so worried about you she just had to come.

Reposting this wisdom.

it is awful to say, but best note this advice.

Sauvblanctime · 04/05/2023 18:22

Ouch, yes sorry lovely she was just using you as a holiday