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AIBU to “cancel” my friend coming to help post birth?

524 replies

AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 00:13

I’m 33 weeks pregnant, likely to give birth via c section around 34-36wk (most likely 35) due to a combo of medical reasons which I won’t get fully into, but rather than a standard c-section, it’ll be an up and down cut (open laparotomy) potentially including a hysterectomy and other procedures.

Recovery is going to be tough and potentially include a substantial hospital stay for me. I hoped to get further along than 35ish weeks but for various reasons including a decline in my health, it won’t be possible.

this is my first and (obviously) likely only child.

I have a friend who lives a substantial distance away (flight needed).
While I do have strong local support, my friend offered to come to stay to help me with recovery and the new baby.

Around 16/17 weeks I was considering it and said I’d let her know. We remained in regular contact, but unfortunately, this clearly sounded like a “yes” to her and it became clear she assumed that’s what I meant. I have repeatedly said “we’ll see, and I’m not sure it’s a good idea” but she seems to want to argue it with me and I’ve not had the strength.

this pregnancy has been brutal, if I’m honest, with over 20 hospital admissions and multiple late nights at A+E plus a fair share of mental health struggles, I should’ve been more direct but I did express my concerns to her. I do admit my fault for not putting my foot down. There are many reasons I’ve turned off of the idea, and I’ll include her rebuttals. example:

friend has a 7yr old child. Obviously, the child would come with her. I don’t necessarily feel comfortable hosting a boisterous child, especially while dealing with a potentially difficult recovery road.

friend says “We’d have our own space, we’ll stay out of your way when you need a breather.” (I have a spare room).

I did also say there may be things related to my recovery that are messy, difficult, uncomfortable and she may not want her DC present to witness it. It’ll also be a nightmare for her DC if I have an extended stay in hospital IMHO.
friend says “If needed, DC can be left with a sitter.” But I know the expense for that would be mine to bear (explained further below).

friend has a low income, meaning I will be left footing the bill for her flights, travel, etc.

She knows I can technically afford it, but I’m trying really hard to save money/not touch savings because I’m taking substantial time off of work (and I’m self employed so mat pay etc is limited).
when I mention cost is an issue, suddenly she offers to pay half or “try to get a credit card” (for various reasons I doubt that would work).

I had a scare a few days ago (light bleeding, monitoring session in hospital), now she’s more insistent than ever, to the point where she’s disregarding that I don’t have time to accommodate her, settle her + her child in, travel several hours each way to do airport pick up, etc.

I know she can sense my hesitancy because recently all she wants to talk about is how “difficult” things are at home (she’s in her 30s but lives with her family, whereas I live alone) and how she “can’t wait for a break”. She’s also mentioned how “excited” her DS is to come. It’s becoming very clear to me that it’s less about helping me and more about helping herself, but I don’t see a way of navigating out of this while retaining our previously very lovely friendship of several years.

aibu to cancel this? And WIBU to ask MN for some advice as to how to go about it? I’ve been running around like a blue arsed fly putting my business into rest mode, so to speak, and making sure everything is ready for the baby. But I need to address this soon. Help?

OP posts:
billy1966 · 04/05/2023 16:02

I hope she has seen it, so she realises what a transparent non friend she is.

Mummapenguin20 · 04/05/2023 16:04

Hopfully she’s seen sense and realised it would be no good for anyone her coming x

Bunce1 · 04/05/2023 16:11

I predict she’s gonna come back crying and fess up she needs you and to make it work she would
take care of you.

Lilliflip · 04/05/2023 16:12

Well done on sending that text, I still think you’ve been too restrained.
Steel yourself for the response, unfortunately I don’t think she’ll give up easily as she sees her ‘new life’ slipping away from her.

billy1966 · 04/05/2023 16:15

I agree.

This was more about a convenient change of scene for her that helping out a friend.

I would absolutely expect tears, upset, drama and huge pressure to help her.

Cut her loose if she does.

Sugarfree23 · 04/05/2023 16:26

Op don't be too harsh on yourself you tried to put her off gently but she wasn't listening- mainly because it was for her benefit she wanted to come - not yous.

I do hope she hasn't told her kid but again not your problem

inkyfingers · 04/05/2023 16:34

I’d get the most direct message to her as soon as possible. It won’t be easier as the days pass. Make it absolutely clear - and shorter the better to avoid any misunderstanding.

Beaverbridge · 04/05/2023 16:38

Prepare for waterworks etc. But do not give in. She sounds horrendous. She's one CF. Good luck lovely.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 04/05/2023 16:38

alas, still no response as yet (which is strange for her).

Hopefully she's not en route. If she is, don't let her in whatever you do. None of this sounds like it's for your benefit.

CoconutQueen · 04/05/2023 16:40

Well done OP. Stick to your guns 100%.

Is she the sort that might now just turn up unannounced on your doorstep?
If so, keep sticking to your guns. The answer is NO. Don't back down, whatever pushy sob story she throws at you now.

memyselfi · 04/05/2023 16:40

Bullet dodged

MadeofElephantStone · 04/05/2023 16:54

Oooft she is a cheeky fucker. I think if you let her in 'to help' you would have a hard time getting her to leave, she has eyes on your home. Hopefully she respects your decision but anyone who had a tantrum over this, especially under your circumstances would be given the chop from my life. I can't bare adults who behave like this.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 04/05/2023 17:06

CoconutQueen · 04/05/2023 16:40

Well done OP. Stick to your guns 100%.

Is she the sort that might now just turn up unannounced on your doorstep?
If so, keep sticking to your guns. The answer is NO. Don't back down, whatever pushy sob story she throws at you now.

She can't afford to!

viques · 04/05/2023 17:10

I would cancel purely and simply because she is bringing a seven year old child. Her priority will be her child, as it should be, not you and your baby. A bored seven year old child will make an uncomfortable atmosphere for you all, and if she takes the child out and about then clearly she won’t be available to help you. Use the help you have locally, buy in extra help as you need to if you can afford to. Minimise your own stress by not worrying about other people.

AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 17:21

She didn’t text back, but she called me a bit ago. She said she was “worried” about my “sudden change of heart” and I explained to her that I wasn’t keen on the idea and did try to let my concerns be known. I did also say that, since 16/17 weeks a lot of things changed (which is true. Eg I was diagnosed with placenta accreta after my second anomaly scan. Scan was repeated due to baby’s awkward position during the first).

Some of my health conditions were known beforehand, but two are pregnancy specific and weren’t discovered until 22+ weeks.

she got really upset (crying) and said she “wished I’d said something sooner” and that her DS was going to be very disappointed, I did point out that really her DC shouldn’t have been that excited anyway as it probably would’ve been boring and difficult - not a holiday. But that I did let my objections be known.

When she said that he wouldn’t see it that way, I said “Well that’s another reason it’s just not wise to throw a 7yr old into this situation. He’s expecting fun and will walk into a situation that’s difficult for anyone let alone a child.”

She didn’t have much to say to that but cried more and said she couldn’t believe I was “leaving her in this situation”.

She started getting a bit snappy when I said I hadn’t left her in any situation as I’d always let her know I was unsure and told her why, but she didn’t listen. I reaffirmed that it wasn’t a good idea, apologised for her distress but told her that it wasn’t going to change and hung up.

Pretty sure our friendship is down the drain now, but at least she accepts it isn’t happening. I’ll back off for a bit and maybe reach out in a few months if she doesn’t reach out first, but I do feel relieved that I didn’t let it happen. Thank you, MN. 🙏

OP posts:
raincamepouringdown · 04/05/2023 17:23

You haven't heard from her yet because you FINALLY actually said No. And she's trying to organise herself to blame you for her already making plans that she couldn't possibly cancel now. or so she'll claim.

Stand firm. You don't need or want her 'help', which was more about her desire to leave her parents' house than helping you; she'll be watching her 7 year old, not supporting you. Just imagine. You are not paying for her to travel to/from yours. You are not putting her up in your home rent free and paying for all her and her child's food and expenses to boot. End of.

Don't even entertain a tantrum or an attempt at a run around your 'no. Just block her in that event.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 04/05/2023 17:23

Wow! Dodged a bullet for sure.

raincamepouringdown · 04/05/2023 17:24

x post

She didn’t have much to say to that but cried more and said she couldn’t believe I was “leaving her in this situation”

Yep! Definitely a bullet dodged. She still wanted to come and remake her life at your home at your expense. Nope.

Trainham · 04/05/2023 17:24

If you have home start or sure start in your area some of them have volunteer who work with children under 5 years old.i know people who have used them good luck

takealettermsjones · 04/05/2023 17:25

Wow. You have not left her in any situation! If she still wants a "break" with her child she can have one, at her own expense.

isthismylifenow · 04/05/2023 17:26

Her reaction is just proof that she was coming for her own benefit, not so much yours.

Tigofigo · 04/05/2023 17:26

Honestly she's not a good friend anyway. All you're going through and she's more concerned about herself.

Lsquiggles · 04/05/2023 17:26

WOW she has made the entire thing about herself!

You don't need friends like this OP

I wish you all the best with your baby and recovery, don't let this awful woman add any additional stress to your plate

Sugarshoots · 04/05/2023 17:27

Professional gaslighter if I ever saw one! Well done for sticking to your guns and saying no. Friends are supportive and offer whatever help they can that suits you, they don’t expect a free holiday during a time of worry. Lucky escape for sure. Also be proud of yourself, I can imagine it was difficult for you.

Augend23 · 04/05/2023 17:27

Oh my days OP, that conversation sounds exhausting at the best of times, never mind when you're already knackered from being pregnant and not very well.

Bullet dodged though I think!

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