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AIBU to “cancel” my friend coming to help post birth?

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AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 00:13

I’m 33 weeks pregnant, likely to give birth via c section around 34-36wk (most likely 35) due to a combo of medical reasons which I won’t get fully into, but rather than a standard c-section, it’ll be an up and down cut (open laparotomy) potentially including a hysterectomy and other procedures.

Recovery is going to be tough and potentially include a substantial hospital stay for me. I hoped to get further along than 35ish weeks but for various reasons including a decline in my health, it won’t be possible.

this is my first and (obviously) likely only child.

I have a friend who lives a substantial distance away (flight needed).
While I do have strong local support, my friend offered to come to stay to help me with recovery and the new baby.

Around 16/17 weeks I was considering it and said I’d let her know. We remained in regular contact, but unfortunately, this clearly sounded like a “yes” to her and it became clear she assumed that’s what I meant. I have repeatedly said “we’ll see, and I’m not sure it’s a good idea” but she seems to want to argue it with me and I’ve not had the strength.

this pregnancy has been brutal, if I’m honest, with over 20 hospital admissions and multiple late nights at A+E plus a fair share of mental health struggles, I should’ve been more direct but I did express my concerns to her. I do admit my fault for not putting my foot down. There are many reasons I’ve turned off of the idea, and I’ll include her rebuttals. example:

friend has a 7yr old child. Obviously, the child would come with her. I don’t necessarily feel comfortable hosting a boisterous child, especially while dealing with a potentially difficult recovery road.

friend says “We’d have our own space, we’ll stay out of your way when you need a breather.” (I have a spare room).

I did also say there may be things related to my recovery that are messy, difficult, uncomfortable and she may not want her DC present to witness it. It’ll also be a nightmare for her DC if I have an extended stay in hospital IMHO.
friend says “If needed, DC can be left with a sitter.” But I know the expense for that would be mine to bear (explained further below).

friend has a low income, meaning I will be left footing the bill for her flights, travel, etc.

She knows I can technically afford it, but I’m trying really hard to save money/not touch savings because I’m taking substantial time off of work (and I’m self employed so mat pay etc is limited).
when I mention cost is an issue, suddenly she offers to pay half or “try to get a credit card” (for various reasons I doubt that would work).

I had a scare a few days ago (light bleeding, monitoring session in hospital), now she’s more insistent than ever, to the point where she’s disregarding that I don’t have time to accommodate her, settle her + her child in, travel several hours each way to do airport pick up, etc.

I know she can sense my hesitancy because recently all she wants to talk about is how “difficult” things are at home (she’s in her 30s but lives with her family, whereas I live alone) and how she “can’t wait for a break”. She’s also mentioned how “excited” her DS is to come. It’s becoming very clear to me that it’s less about helping me and more about helping herself, but I don’t see a way of navigating out of this while retaining our previously very lovely friendship of several years.

aibu to cancel this? And WIBU to ask MN for some advice as to how to go about it? I’ve been running around like a blue arsed fly putting my business into rest mode, so to speak, and making sure everything is ready for the baby. But I need to address this soon. Help?

OP posts:
abbey44 · 04/05/2023 12:33

Oh, I’ve just seen your update (cross posted) - well done!

Sugarshoots · 04/05/2023 12:36

Well done for sending the message, I hope it’s a huge weight lifted from your shoulders and you can finally relax and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy in peace.

Sugarfree23 · 04/05/2023 12:38

Sounds reasonable to me.
She's probably pissed off but hey that's not your problem

MeridianB · 04/05/2023 12:38

Well done @AwkwardArmadillo

thenightsky · 04/05/2023 12:39

Blimey, didn't realise you were expected to pay for her childcare whilst in this country too!

PinkCast · 04/05/2023 12:45

Well done on your message OP.
I hope she hears it.

@abbey44 that's awful 😔

isthismylifenow · 04/05/2023 12:45

It is a good clear message OP.

I just wanted to wish you all the best for the birth of your baby and your healing journey thereafter.

💐

NotmykingEatCake · 04/05/2023 12:46

Well done OP, she sounds very far from being an actual friend

Bluebells1970 · 04/05/2023 12:48

She sounds like a user and not a giver. Paying for help would probably work out cheaper in the long term. Have you considered a Doula?

I had an emergency C section and delivery at 35 weeks - and ended up having over a week in as baby struggled to feed without getting tired and also to maintain their temperature. Then jaundice meant UV light treatment... the only advantage was that I was fed, watered and had chance to get back to some level of health before going home. Baby then got bronchiolitis from my toddler and ended up back in intensive care for nearly a week so it wasn't an easy start to their life. You're absolutely right to prioritise you both for the first few months. Good luck.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/05/2023 12:48

AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 12:26

Sorry, I was busy and couldn’t update. I did send a text saying:

“I know you were really worried when X happened, but I’ve had a chat with the midwife, my mother and Y, and we’ve got it from here. I don’t want you to put yourselves out travelling, and I’m not up to accommodating you both right now between X and Y appointments and how generally unwell I feel. After birth, I definitely won’t be in a good enough way to be around (DC name) either, and I can’t commit to paying for his childcare.

It was kind of you to offer, but I’d rather stick with my support network at this time. It’s best for everyone. Maybe we can see each other another time?”

that was an hour ago and I haven’t actually received a response. I’m half expecting to be spammed and argued with, but so far, radio silence. I tried to be nice about it while also being direct.

That sounds like a very good and clear message, @AwkwardArmadillo - I hope she takes it OK and doesn't try to argue. If she does, you could mention that you are considering hiring a maternity nurse to live in, post partum - who would obviously a) be able to give you the skilled care you need and b) would need the spare room.

Xiaoxiong · 04/05/2023 12:53

Great message but what's that about paying for her 7 year old to be in childcare?! If so your "friend" is an even bigger cheeky fucker than initially revealed!

Topseyt123 · 04/05/2023 13:06

That is a good reply. I wonder if she has read it yet.

I hope that a weight has now lifted for you. Don't let her bully you. If she kicks off then just block her.

I hope the remainder of your pregnancy is as stress free as possible, certainly with regard to this pushy mare.

sugarrosepetal · 04/05/2023 13:06

If your friend pushes back again just straight out tell her: "No, You cannot come over to stay. I have made my decision and you are not needed. I have tried to be kind and tell you in various ways that I am not keen on the idea but now I have to be brutally blunt because you have left me no other option. I need you to stop pushing the issue as it is stressing me out. I will let you know when baby is here but for now I am going to focus on my health and that of baby. Any further messages regarding coming over will be ignored."

Grrrpredictivetex · 04/05/2023 13:07

Good luck with the birth of your child @AwkwardArmadillo. Be prepared to lose your so called friend, but from what you've told us I think you'll be gaining from this.

bellabasset · 04/05/2023 13:07

That's a clear text to your friend, with your mother and other family members nearby it sounds as though you have plenty of moral as well as practical support. Good luck with the birth and recovery

MinnieGirl · 04/05/2023 13:10

Perfect message.
please come back and update when she replies… and stand firm!

Comeonbarbiebrianharvey · 04/05/2023 13:11

Good for you, she sounds a bit childish, yes she may want to help and support you, but it'd be so stressful with a young child there too, a trip when baby is a bit older (over a couple of months) will be much better for everyone.

The money you would have spent on her travels could you put it towards a doula? They don't have to come to the birth, you can just get them for postnatal support, many are ex midwives, some look after you and baby and home , Google it in your area.

AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 13:12

Xiaoxiong · 04/05/2023 12:53

Great message but what's that about paying for her 7 year old to be in childcare?! If so your "friend" is an even bigger cheeky fucker than initially revealed!

As I mentioned in the OP, when I’ve said about how some things may not be appropriate for her child to see/may cause distress, at which she responded “oh, he can be left with a sitter.” But she’s on quite a low income and childcare - especially last minute emergency type childcare - is obviously very pricey. Much like the flights I doubt she could get a credit card due to her very low/sporadic income. So I know it would 99% fall to me to pay for that.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 04/05/2023 13:12

Excellent message.
No need to engage forward.

You really need to be focused on minding yourself now.

Oneandonly22 · 04/05/2023 13:13

Definitely speak to your midwife at the hospital to see what additional support they could offer you post birth. This was something I was offered when I had DS in 2020 as like yourself I had major surgery at birth due to having placenta precreta and during run up to my DS birth we tried to plan as much as support as necessary. I recovered extremely well after birth physically from the up and down incision and hysterectomy, my bladder thankfully was saved although it took a good battering. I took it very slow and was more effected emotionally so seen the psychologist weekly pre and post birth and that really helped. Good luck and I hope all goes well post birth. I’m glad your messaged your friend as you really don’t need the additional stress and worry trying to accommodate her after birth.

AwkwardArmadillo · 04/05/2023 13:13

No response as yet, will update when there is one. I’m half expecting a tantrum from her regardless. But I’m going to stand firm. The more I think her coming, the more it fills me with dread tbh

OP posts:
purplecorkheart · 04/05/2023 13:15

A excellent text. Just be prepared for her to claim that she has given in her notice on her housing. Stand firm with her and remind her you never agreed for her to come

Clementinesucks · 04/05/2023 13:20

Yep stand firm. And if she doesn’t message you, enjoy the silence!

She couldn’t just turn up could she? Sounds like she doesn’t have the means?

Shelefttheweb · 04/05/2023 13:24

I expect she will reply with ‘it’s no trouble coming, DS can look after himself…’, if she does you will need to be very blunt.

Sugarfree23 · 04/05/2023 13:26

How did you meet her? Would it matter if you cut ties with her?

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