Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be pissed off with SIL?

156 replies

FanFareMax · 03/05/2023 07:53

So DN (DH’s sister’s daughter) is 6. She’s obsessed with our DD, 10 months. When I was pregnant, SIL went on and on at DN about how I was carrying her cousin and how they’re going to be best friends once the baby is born, getting her to hug my bump constantly (which I wasn’t keen on but didn’t seem to be given a choice) just really trying to generate excitement in DN. I get why, but it was a lot at the time (or felt it, perhaps it was pregnancy hormones)

We live nearly 200 miles from SIL and her family so only see them every few months.

Since DD has been born, it’s been so intense with DN every time we see them. We went to visit them for a couple of days last weekend and I left feeling really cross at SIL and also DH.

It’s no exaggeration to say from the minute we arrived to the minute we left, we barely got a moments peace from DN. She was glued to my side and in my and my DD’s face constantly, pulling DD around, following me every single time I tried to put her down for a nap or to change or feed her. She kept saying to SIL ‘she’s like one of my dolls’ and SIL kept saying ‘yes she is like your dolls’ I really wanted to say, she’s not a fucking doll.

SIL kept asking could DN feed and change DD, I didn’t feel like I could say no as she asked right in front of DN, neither the feeding or the nappy changing went well (I think because DD was getting more and more grumpy and tired) DD was getting so fed up of being pulled around, she’s teething so hadn’t slept well the night before and was so overstimulated and grumpy that after a while she had the biggest meltdown she’s ever had and neither DH nor I could console her for nearly an hour. Noone could hear themselves think so I said I’d try putting her in the pram and take her for a walk to try and get her to sleep, que DN saying ‘I want to come and push the pram.’ I just wanted 5 minutes bloody peace, I looked at SIL and was about to say ‘I think it’s probably best I go on my own’ when SIL jumped in and said ‘of course you can, I’m sure FanFare will let you push the pram as well’

It carried on like that for the whole weekend, I left feeling exhausted as felt like I’d had two children the whole weekend with DN just constantly bloody THERE.

When we got home, DH said ‘DN was pretty intense this weekend wasn’t she, I could sense some tension at one point and could tell you were getting really pissed off’ I said ‘So why didn’t you say something then? It’s your bloody family!’ And he said ‘I wanted to but I knew it would piss SIL off, I didn’t think she’d take it very well if I said DN was being a bit much, you know what she can be like’ (backstory, SIL is incredibly precious and cannot take any form of criticism towards her or her family, she’s also the ‘princess’ of DH’s family and we are all genuinely expected to pander to her otherwise MIL and FIL get cross!)

I’m so cross, I feel like DH shoved me and DD under the bus so as not to annoy SIL. It’s okay for me to be annoyed though?

What’s prompted this thread is it’s MIL’s birthday next month and we are all going to a cottage for the weekend to celebrate so we have to stay under the same roof as DN for 2 days. On Monday we get sent a video from SIL, it’s of DN singing a countdown song to the number of days until she gets to see DD again. I got one yesterday and now again this morning. SIL said DN is going to do one every day for the next month until she sees DD again. I’m honestly really struggling with all this, it feels so bloody intense and suffocating and I can’t imagine having this much interest in someone else’s baby! SIL has zero self awareness that other people might not want DN in their face all the time and never calls her away. How on earth am I going to cope with it for 2 days under the same roof? I’m dreading it.

AIBU here? Is it actually all really ‘cute’ and I just need to accept it all? To me it just feels intense and obsessive.

OP posts:
MinnieGirl · 03/05/2023 15:22

FanFareMax · 03/05/2023 13:57

She has two, elder twin brothers (9) this is probably really outing now!

SIL tried to get them as excited as DN but they’re 9 year old boys at the end of the day, they’re just not that bothered, much to her distress.

And no, we’re expected to give the boys what they want all the time too. They’re just not ever allowed to be disappointed and people must think of them and consider their feelings at all times. It’s exhausting.

Fuck that! There is no way I would be pandering to SiL and her spoilt kids. Although it seems it’s the whole family…
I would not be going to stay with MiL for her birthday. Nearby hotel so you can get away if I truly had to attend….
And in answer to the WhatsApp message of niece singing… I would be sending SiL a message to say that your baby was so upset last time with all the prodding and poking, and you are sure she will be able to explain to DN nicely that babies are not dolls and that they will be able to play together when baby is older.
And start saying no! Just because your in laws won’t say no doesn’t mean you can’t. She is your baby and you don’t want her upset. I would loose my shit with this family. The only saving grace is the 200 mile separation

Maka21 · 03/05/2023 16:08

Can you channel the enthusiasm in to helping with tasks I.e. DN could you go and get the nappies for me please? Surely explaining to a child in a calm but kind way is a lot more easier than the politics that go on with adult in laws?! 😆 or saying for example. DD is feeling a little overwhelmed DN would you mind giving her some space? It sounds like she adores the baby so will want to please.

Naimee87 · 03/05/2023 16:23

Not quite identical but i have a DN whose 6 and i find him to be very full on. He is glued to me 24/7 when we get together with my sister who also has a baby as well. I have one DS whose 13 and even he finds DN a lot. I dont know if maybe it is the age/stage, perhaps in a few months she will lose interest in DD. Do you think her behaviour is being fuelled by SIL to keep her occupied, is DN an only child? Seems SIL feels shes entitled to a break so is encouraging this behaviour so she doesnt have to occupy DN. I agree with a few of the posters to speak to SIL that certain actitvities are better done without DN. Could you bring/buy her a toy next time you see her to occupy her. Ive found this quite helpful with DN. Last time was a little RC car. I got almost an hour to catch up with my sister before he was hanging off my neck again. I tend to give in as my sister has a lot on her plate but also any type of resisting from her or me or my DS just makes him try harder to get attention. I just keep telling myself he wont be 6 forever...

CornedBeef451 · 08/05/2023 09:13

That sounds like a bit of a nightmare!

We had something similar and it turned out DH was entirely unable to stand up to his family for me or DD in any way so I had to be the one to manage the situation.

When we took DD to meet his family for the first time a couple of hours away I arranged for my parents to come too. They "happened" to have a caravan holiday nearby at the same time so they could come and help out under the guise of getting to know DH's family better.

When it all got too much for DD meeting 20 people I threw her at DDad and he did his baby whispering magic and carried her off for a walk while me and DMom caused a distraction and stopped anyone going with him to "help".

You shouldn't need to have to plan to exert boundaries for the good of your baby but your SIL sounds like an overindulged madam so you're going to have to decide what to do next time, agree with DH and then have a backup plan if he is unable to do his part.

Codlingmoths · 08/05/2023 09:30

This is brilliant advice and what I would normally do if it were anyone else’s child, but I know if I say these things, however gently to DN, that SIL’s head will fall off, and then MIL and FIL’s will too. You’re not allowed to tell her children no, they’re not allowed to be disappointed.
well, I’d explain to Dh that this will be happening. And again and again as much as necessary because the way you feel about it right now you give not a single fuckwhether sil never speaks to you again, so he can help manage it or he will have to deal with it either way, there’s no out. He needs to call his parents and explain that baby and you need to be anle to have a break from dn, that no matter what shit sil spouts this is your baby not her doll and we just won’t be able to come to things if we can’t get some time free of dn. We will go for walks she is not invited on. We will take baby to another room to settle her and db can’t come in. We will insist we change her if she’s tired not dn even if she wants to. if we can’t do these things we just can’t come. I’ll still come but it’s not fair to our baby to be treated like a 6 year olds property.

Lines I’d have prepared ‘baby just wants her mummy now, she’s a bit upset. You wanted your mummy when you were that small and tired.’ ‘I’m taking baby for a walk now. No, you can’t come.’ Honestly if sil wants to act up at that then let her. There is no way you can get through the next 20 years without being able to say the most reasonable of things.

Bedofroses85 · 08/05/2023 12:08

If I was in this situation I would take the opportunity to send a message/video back to DN knowing SIL will see it, explaining that due to DD’s age, she’ll need some time to be on her own with mum or she’ll get grumpy, tired etc.. for example, when feeding, napping, etc. This will give you the upper hand before you are all together as you’ll have set up some rules and can remind DN of them. If SIL shows any sign of being dismissive when seeing the message I’d feign an illness and not join in the weekend away.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread