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I’m “entitled” for actually being a woman?

129 replies

ThreeblackCats · 02/05/2023 19:07

I was a bit pissed to be referred to as a “cis” female and I stood my ground.

I’m not cis, I’m not a terf, I’m a woman, born a woman, lived a woman for 60 years and Michael called me “entitled” so, am I wrong for defending woman from this BS?

I’m sick of being relegated to third place after men and then trans men.

I’m “entitled” for actually being a woman?
I’m “entitled” for actually being a woman?
I’m “entitled” for actually being a woman?
I’m “entitled” for actually being a woman?
I’m “entitled” for actually being a woman?
OP posts:
Notimeforaname · 02/05/2023 19:12

Get off the internet and calm down, dont let people wind you up so much. I thought this was someone in your office or something.

I feel like you're just looking to get into an argument online. I get what youre saying but dont go out lookin for it..you'll be constantly wound up..

Notimeforaname · 02/05/2023 19:15

Live a nice life. Talk to like-minded people. Dont waste time arguing your opinions online, you wont change their minds much like they won't change yours.

Make changes where you actually can.

Luredbyapomegranate · 02/05/2023 19:15

I wouldn’t have these arguments with randomers online, that way madness lies.

MintJulia · 02/05/2023 19:16

Notimeforaname · 02/05/2023 19:15

Live a nice life. Talk to like-minded people. Dont waste time arguing your opinions online, you wont change their minds much like they won't change yours.

Make changes where you actually can.

This. Ignore the rubbish that others talk. It's really not worth head space.

Just enjoy and be proud of who you are.

BluebellBlueballs · 02/05/2023 19:17

Terf has pretty much been reclaimed now

Most GC I know use the term proudly

Not saying everyone has to but its not the slur they want it to be

Miri13 · 02/05/2023 19:20

You were 100% right. There are trans people out there, and have been for many years who just get on with things and don’t bother anyone. However, there now appears to be this group emerging with another agenda. They are vicious men trying to erase biological women. I too am a woman, not a terf and not a CIS woman! Doesn’t exist as far as I’m concerned and I could care less what they think.

cadburyegg · 02/05/2023 19:21

A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. If you had spent 2 seconds on google rather than arguing about it then you'd have realised it's not an insult

WhyCantYourPartnerDoIt · 02/05/2023 19:22

You sound a little unhinged.

PSNonsense · 02/05/2023 19:23

cadburyegg · 02/05/2023 19:21

A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. If you had spent 2 seconds on google rather than arguing about it then you'd have realised it's not an insult

It is an insult to those who don't agree with gender identity nonsense. It's a useless, made up word. Woman is fine.

PSNonsense · 02/05/2023 19:25

To steal from another poster, Cis is like inventing a word for someone who doesn't collect stamps.

Ostryga · 02/05/2023 19:27

Why are women so desperate to allow men to have their little fantasies? And will tell women to ‘calm down’ and stop being SO upset about it when it’s taking away from their lives as well? I’ll never understand that. Why are some people so desperate to please men? Is it because we’ve been taught from a young age that pleasing men makes us worthwhile?

OP YANBU.

Ostryga · 02/05/2023 19:29

WhyCantYourPartnerDoIt · 02/05/2023 19:22

You sound a little unhinged.

I’d like to say what I think you sound like but it’ll get me banned. So I shan’t. Have a great day!

TerfIngOnTheBeach · 02/05/2023 19:32

cadburyegg · 02/05/2023 19:21

A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. If you had spent 2 seconds on google rather than arguing about it then you'd have realised it's not an insult

It really is.

Astralitzia · 02/05/2023 19:34

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drpet49 · 02/05/2023 19:34

Miri13 · 02/05/2023 19:20

You were 100% right. There are trans people out there, and have been for many years who just get on with things and don’t bother anyone. However, there now appears to be this group emerging with another agenda. They are vicious men trying to erase biological women. I too am a woman, not a terf and not a CIS woman! Doesn’t exist as far as I’m concerned and I could care less what they think.

Completely agree with this.

TiredOfCleaning · 02/05/2023 19:34

cadburyegg · 02/05/2023 19:21

A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. If you had spent 2 seconds on google rather than arguing about it then you'd have realised it's not an insult

CIS is a slur. if you had spent any time following the narrative then you would know this.

Abra1t · 02/05/2023 19:36

cadburyegg · 02/05/2023 19:21

A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. If you had spent 2 seconds on google rather than arguing about it then you'd have realised it's not an insult

We don’t want to be a subset of our own sex.

I rarely hear about cismen. Always ciswomen.
Telling.

Brefugee · 02/05/2023 19:36

cadburyegg · 02/05/2023 19:21

A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. If you had spent 2 seconds on google rather than arguing about it then you'd have realised it's not an insult

Many many people consider it an insult and have repeatedly asked that people don't use it in connection with them.

It is misgendering them. And that is literal violence

UthredofBattenberg · 02/05/2023 19:37

While the term "cis woman" may be accepted terminology, I don't personally like it. I don't really know why tbh.

I am woman. Just a woman, I don't feel the need to identify myself as anything other than that. That's what I've always been. Then the past few years, I've been told I'm a "cis woman". Maybe that's why I don't like it. I don't want or need to identify myself as anything other than a woman. I'm just me. A woman. Nothing more nothing less.

I don't feel the need to identify as anything other than that, and I don't need anyone telling me what I am or am not.

I understand why people may choose to use it, or not. But I choose not, "cis woman" means nothing to me as an identity.

Brefugee · 02/05/2023 19:38

I reject the epithet "cis" and anyone who continues to use it in my direction will be roundly and soundly told to get to fuck.

CantFindTheBeat · 02/05/2023 19:39

If a term IS needed (it's not), why haven't they chosen 'original' or 'birth' instead of CIS?

Sorryyoufeelthatway · 02/05/2023 19:39

Cis is a slur. Do not Cis me. Thanks!

TiredOfCleaning · 02/05/2023 19:40

Or indeed 'woman'.

You know. The old fashioned cunty types.

Who has an interest in erasing the very category of women. Who? And why?

People who think this does not matter need to start paying attention.

Inkypinkee · 02/05/2023 19:41

I reject cis too. I don’t want to be a subset of women. I think the people who are identifying into the term need to be the subset. They can be trans women and we can be women.

Do you think a trans woman is a male bodied person identifying as a woman? Or do you think they are a woman born in the wrong body?

FuckNuggets · 02/05/2023 19:44

cadburyegg · 02/05/2023 19:21

A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. If you had spent 2 seconds on google rather than arguing about it then you'd have realised it's not an insult

@cadburyegg You're wrongly assuming everyone on the planet has a gender identity. Putting labels on people when we don't want them is annoying. I'm a woman because I was born female, not because I identify with the gender stereotypes forced on me by the patriarchy.

No one is assigned a sex at birth. Sex is determined at conception, observed in the womb and confirmed at birth. If you'd spent 2 seconds engaging your brain you'd know that.

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