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To wish it was seen as the most beautiful thing ever to be super overweight

228 replies

weeducky · 30/04/2023 12:00

Okay I know I am being because health but I am sat here really bloody hungry because I need to lose weight and I've had my morning 300 cals and it's just miserable. Heroin chic thin was in and I feel like if a BMI of 26/27/28 was seen as the pinnacle of beauty life would be lovely and I could eat what I wanted. Eating delicious food is such a source of joy and life would just be so much better if it was without guilt.

Don't worry, I know this isn't sensible realistically (even though we're potentially going that way) just dreaming because I really really want something delicious and filling for my lunch and I can't have it.

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SecretsIWouldNeverTell · 30/04/2023 13:19

@Kyse you have got a smashing figure. 😍

sheusesmagazines · 30/04/2023 13:23

weeducky · 30/04/2023 12:09

My BMI is 25.5. Usually I'm at about 22 and still feel miserable but gained weight due to a considerably shit year causing insane stress. For me it's 100% about looks. I know it shouldn't be, but growing up with Cosmopolitan and 'fat' Bridget Jones will do that to you.

I had the same influences and feel the same OP. I've been rewatching Friends and it really reminded me why I am how I am and why I value thinness so much.

I'm at my "dream" BMI and I'm still not happy. It sucks so much. I know my thinking is 100% disordered and frankly, obnoxious. I'm hoping my daughter doesn't grow up like I did. I know I need to work hard to prevent it. I hope that super thin is never as "in" again as it was in the 1990s/2000s.

Valour · 30/04/2023 13:28

OP is getting a hard time on here, when she's clearly stated that given the Bridget Jones culture that was around a few years ago, her reasons for wanting to lose weight aren't the best.
Horrible that someone who has issues around weight and dieting can't come on here to talk about it, just because she isn't overweight enough. It's body shaming.

Botw1 · 30/04/2023 13:29

@Kyse

You look lovely

SophieinParis · 30/04/2023 13:30

Tbh though you CAN eat delicious food and be slim! I love eating delicious filling food and I’m pretty slim. But..I don’t have snacks, and I eat small portions say 4 days out of 7. And if I want a lovely almond croissant, for example, I’ll have one, but that counts as breakfast and I’ll have a bit of sushi, an apple and a Diet Coke for lunch rather than a sandwich that day.

Deadpalm · 30/04/2023 13:31

Valour · 30/04/2023 13:28

OP is getting a hard time on here, when she's clearly stated that given the Bridget Jones culture that was around a few years ago, her reasons for wanting to lose weight aren't the best.
Horrible that someone who has issues around weight and dieting can't come on here to talk about it, just because she isn't overweight enough. It's body shaming.

It's not body shaming.
There is a different issue. MN is rife with ED and posters like this set off others. I can basically guarantee that in next 24 hours there will be another at least 6 weight posts at least half will be questionable. Then 4 days nothing. Then someone sets it off again. It's ALWAYS like this

TheGoogleMum · 30/04/2023 13:31

If super overweight was fashionable OP would have to gain a lot more weight to attractive! 25.5 is fine. BMI isn't everything either, as we all come in different shapes and sizes and carry weight different. As someone with mesomelic drawfism it bugs me that health care professionals use it on me when I don't meet the criteria it is supposed to work for (having said that, I am overweight. My BMI is just over 30, I dont think of myself as 'super overweight' though. Im a size 14 with short limbs)

Disco2023 · 30/04/2023 13:38

No one needs to starve themselves and not eat nice tasting food. Plenty of information available how to eat healthily and so you are full with good nutritious content.

Id rather be just on the overweight section of the BMI that I probably am. I know I’m trying to be as healthy as possible with a balanced diet of all food groups and consistent exercise that suit me. Than to try and achieve a slightly lower number on the BMI by falling for fad diets/ being hungry because a scale/society tells me so.

I can guarantee I’m healthier than some much slimmer than me that don’t look after their health.

Zola1 · 30/04/2023 13:40

I feel I'd be the happiest woman in the world if I could just eat shite all day long. I often think if I had a wish it'd be that food didn't have calories

JeepersCreeperrs · 30/04/2023 13:50

If you give up the junk and eat real food, you’ll realise junk isn’t delicious at all.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/04/2023 13:52

"Much of Africa. “You’ve put on weight!” is a compliment! If you were slim."

Where my friend comes from (in Africa) slim people are pitied because they don't wobble when they dance.
I assume overweight is seen as attractive in the Carribean too.

Gwenhwyfar · 30/04/2023 13:56

"I agree. The middle girl (3rd one) is not overweight. "

The image is of an overweight person so she is overweight. In any case, it's not overweight or slim, there are sizes in between.

Businessflake · 30/04/2023 13:57

Botw1 · 30/04/2023 12:08

Also most slim people aren't healthy either so it really shouldn't be about looks

On what possible basis are you making this statement?

That's almost as ridiculous as saying most obese people are actually healthy.

Yankeedoodlemandy · 30/04/2023 13:58

A BMI of 26/27/28 is NOT very overweight.

DollyP88 · 30/04/2023 14:00

Cordeliathecat · 30/04/2023 13:13

I worked with someone from Ghana. I went on holiday for a few weeks, came back and the first thing she said to me was “wow, you’ve put on so much weight!” In front of the entire office. She meant it as a compliment, I was mortified 😳

Yes! My in-laws are exactly like this. My African husband really loved how I looked just after having kids although I felt fat. It’s so funny how we have such different ideals of beauty around the world.

Botw1 · 30/04/2023 14:02

@Businessflake

On the basis that looks dont determine health?

Slim people could eat a really unhealthy diet.

They could smoke

They could take drugs

They could have cancer or any other illness/disease

They could do no exercise.

They could starve themselves

Theycould be unhealthy in any number of ways because you can't know a person's health's status by looking at them

Gwenhwyfar · 30/04/2023 14:02

"It’s so funny how we have such different ideals of beauty around the world."

Basically fatness equates to wealth in some cultures,
Is it Mali where girls are force fed to make them more marriageable? Horrible practice.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 30/04/2023 14:02

Your bmi seems to be in the range of slightly overweight to overweight.
And many healthy and athletic people do have a bmi in that range.

My ideal weight range (according to my primary care physician, who measured lean mass, fat deposits etc) puts me at a bmi of about 24 - about 27.5.

But I do quite a lot of resistance training and don't really carry weight around the stomach, which is of course relevant in regards to hight-waist circumference and the associated risk.

I used to drive myself mad trying to have a bmi below 24.8. But I just couldn't do it!
It took me ages to accept that (very slim, no curves was the trend when I was a teen). And that I am apparently destined to have a big bum (and boobs)...

It was therefore such a relief to have my primary care doc talk to me about my healthy weight range....

I'd recommend it to everyone in a similar situation btw!

Gwenhwyfar · 30/04/2023 14:03

"Theycould be unhealthy in any number of ways because you can't know a person's health's status by looking at them"

Yes, but you said that MOST slim people are unhealthy.

Matchymatchylemonscratchy · 30/04/2023 14:03

You need to have things you enjoy eating that are healthy to be readily available. Starving yourself isn’t the answer. I have lots of healthy snacks in the fridge for when I’m feeling peckish. It stops me eating rubbish.

Deadpalm · 30/04/2023 14:04

Tbh 300 cal for breakfast isn't particularly starving oneself

Botw1 · 30/04/2023 14:05

@Gwenhwyfar

Yup.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 30/04/2023 14:05

sheusesmagazines · 30/04/2023 13:23

I had the same influences and feel the same OP. I've been rewatching Friends and it really reminded me why I am how I am and why I value thinness so much.

I'm at my "dream" BMI and I'm still not happy. It sucks so much. I know my thinking is 100% disordered and frankly, obnoxious. I'm hoping my daughter doesn't grow up like I did. I know I need to work hard to prevent it. I hope that super thin is never as "in" again as it was in the 1990s/2000s.

Ooh, yes. That's exactly what I was getting at! For those of us who had these influences of the early 90s /00s.

It was a hard time for curvy and or stocky girls. (Not obese or overweight, just genuinely curvy and or "broad").

ThinkTheresBeenAGlitch · 30/04/2023 14:07

I wish beauty standards weren't so oppressive, that 90s superwaifs and Bridget Jones hadn't got inside our heads and ensured we'd never feel good enough no matter how hard we starved ourselves and how much misery we endured. I wish that as beauty standards change, they became more realistic rather than moving towards another impossible ideal leading women to risk their lives on butt implants or get the fat sucked out of their face or whatever else comes into fashion. I agree the paintings in galleries showing soft curves and flesh are beautiful but so are all kinds of shapes. I wish the OP hadn't called a BMI of 26-28 'super overweight'. I wish women on here didn't glorify eating as little as possible and advocate cutting calories all the time. I wish we valued our wellbeing more, that we all ate nourishing food and no one called it bad or good or 'naughty' or 'treats'. Diet culture has done nothing good for any of us and this OP is one of the most depressing I've ever read.

Businessflake · 30/04/2023 14:08

Gwenhwyfar · 30/04/2023 14:03

"Theycould be unhealthy in any number of ways because you can't know a person's health's status by looking at them"

Yes, but you said that MOST slim people are unhealthy.

Yes exactly. Ridiculous to assume most slim people are unhealthy. Most people do not starve themselves or take drugs. It’s the kind of thing obese people say to make themselves feel better.

The fact is if someone is obese they do have health issues. It’s visible for all to see. Of course slim people can also have health issues but you cannot say most slim people are unhealthy. There is absolutely no basis for that statement.