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To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

375 replies

Kedfs · 30/04/2023 09:13

When there are people reliant on food banks to survive and we are told that there is no money to pay for nurses and teachers pay rises?

Whatever your thoughts are on having a monarchy, having a coronation is unnecessary and was abandoned by other monarchies years ago. If he really wants one, can’t he pay for it himself, given that he has billions of pounds?

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Fansandblankets · 30/04/2023 09:15

Well it’s closer to £100 million and the revenue it will generate will far outweigh what it costs.

ZenNudist · 30/04/2023 09:15

I've been pro monarchy as I don't want an elected head of state but this coronation stuff is putting me off. The cost is hair raising.

Soontobe60 · 30/04/2023 09:16

They’ll have been saving up, a bit like parents saving up for their child’s university fees from the day they’re born. I mean, it’s not like we haven’t been expecting the event for a good few years, is it?

Whatthefnow · 30/04/2023 09:16

I agree op.

What a joke to be honest.

I'd be ashamed of myself taking that money for myself to just to pay for a load of pomp to put a silly hat on.

Just goes to show the little bubble they live in.

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Kedfs · 30/04/2023 09:16

By the time security has been factored in, it is now estimated that it will cost around £250 million, although I still wouldn’t understand even if it was £100 million.

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CherryCokeFanatic · 30/04/2023 09:17

There is always money available for tax cuts for the super rich and corporations, bailing out banks when the big bosses mess up and socialising their losses, and the coronation of course.

The magic money tree doesn’t exist for ordinary people only.

Soontobe60 · 30/04/2023 09:18

ZenNudist · 30/04/2023 09:15

I've been pro monarchy as I don't want an elected head of state but this coronation stuff is putting me off. The cost is hair raising.

How much has it cost you personally?
How much will you benefit from the revenue it generates?
How many people will be employed directly as a result of this event?

The financial cost / benefit is not as simple as “it costs X to hold the event”.

bellac11 · 30/04/2023 09:18

When will people like you OP realise this is not about 'not having the money to pay for nurses/public services', its that the political decisions are not to pay for these things

Brexit has cost us an arm and a leg, the public voted for this, wanted this and dont care
Covid contracts for privateers cost us an arm and a leg, the public wanted and supported this

I cant stand it when people start winging on about 'why has the government done this' when the populace at large voted for this, and keep voting for this. The role of the tories is to run down public services until they are not fit for purpose and then to bring in privateers to provide them, its very simple, not hard to understand and the public seem to want it. So dont moan about it.

Tinyant · 30/04/2023 09:19

I mean we can of course afford it because we are spending it, the money is there it’s just distributed in a way that doesn’t benefit people who actually need it. That’s why it gets on my tits when people rabbit on about how nurses are being unreasonable to request a decent wage because the country is broke….

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 30/04/2023 09:19

Worldwide TV rights cover most of it, and the boost to the economy (said to be in excess of 1 billion) will be a massive boost from tourism etc.......

I have no issue with it.

VeronicaBeccabunga · 30/04/2023 09:19

I totally agree. I'm also absolutely gobsmacked at the proposal that we all 'pledge allegiance' on the day.
The Grauniad has been running an investigation into the royals' property and wealth. My heart to go out to the tenants of the Duchy of Cornwall/Lancaster who are treated like feudal peasants. I'm also angered about the vast art collections [they have a Vermeer!] that we are not allowed to see. £30.00 to go into Buckingham Palace? This stuff should be freely accessible to us all.

Tinyant · 30/04/2023 09:19

bellac11 · 30/04/2023 09:18

When will people like you OP realise this is not about 'not having the money to pay for nurses/public services', its that the political decisions are not to pay for these things

Brexit has cost us an arm and a leg, the public voted for this, wanted this and dont care
Covid contracts for privateers cost us an arm and a leg, the public wanted and supported this

I cant stand it when people start winging on about 'why has the government done this' when the populace at large voted for this, and keep voting for this. The role of the tories is to run down public services until they are not fit for purpose and then to bring in privateers to provide them, its very simple, not hard to understand and the public seem to want it. So dont moan about it.

Indeed

Original poster
Kedfs · 30/04/2023 09:20

bellac11 · 30/04/2023 09:18

When will people like you OP realise this is not about 'not having the money to pay for nurses/public services', its that the political decisions are not to pay for these things

Brexit has cost us an arm and a leg, the public voted for this, wanted this and dont care
Covid contracts for privateers cost us an arm and a leg, the public wanted and supported this

I cant stand it when people start winging on about 'why has the government done this' when the populace at large voted for this, and keep voting for this. The role of the tories is to run down public services until they are not fit for purpose and then to bring in privateers to provide them, its very simple, not hard to understand and the public seem to want it. So dont moan about it.

So the people voted for the monarchy and coronation did they? Sorry, I must have missed that one 🤣

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L1ttledrummergirl · 30/04/2023 09:21

It's not because there is no money. It's because successive governments have wasted money, or outright given it away to family and friends.
The country has been robbed.

SweetSakura · 30/04/2023 09:21

They found the magic money tree!!

Arginalia · 30/04/2023 09:22

One million would be too much to spend on it in my opinion.

Deadpalm · 30/04/2023 09:22

Even if you have elected head of state they cost shotload AND will not be giving money away to people (in 99.9%).
You would end up with someone like Boris as president AND prime minister....

Not having coronation eill not stop foodbanks. Thinking before voting will

Anotherusernameagainitseems · 30/04/2023 09:23

It's marketing for the UK ( people see it on TV and then want to come here on holiday) and building international relationships with foreign dignatories to help build trade and security links.

In addition we could afford to pay better benefits and NHS but enough people have voted conservative so have chosen a government that has prioritised giving money to the rich instead.

LindorDoubleChoc · 30/04/2023 09:23

What does the £250 million get spent on? I can't imagine it. I guess most of the cost will be paying the wages and salaries of the people who work on it?

Highlyflavouredgravy · 30/04/2023 09:24

The thing is, the country CAN afford to pay nurses and teachers more. The governor is making an ideological choice NOT to fund public services.

This a tactical plan; defund public services until they reach breaking point, people get pissed off, you eclare the sevices broken and unworkable and privatise them.

Same is happening in education- cut funding to the bone, rate the school inadequate. Turn it into a privately run academy.

The coronation can be affordedxand this is what they choose to spend the money on.
And people keep voting for it!

Oblomov23 · 30/04/2023 09:24

It's too much. It's disgusting,

LuckyStone · 30/04/2023 09:25

Its because there is always money for the governments cronies, mates, pet projects and themselves. They simply dont want to spend money in a way that would benefit ordinary people.

LightlySearedontheRealityGrill · 30/04/2023 09:25

Because the UK is a two tier country, the ruling tier get expensive parties and millions for their mates fraudulent contracts. And the peasant tier get appalling healthcare, education, public services etc. Peasant tier pay for everything with punitive taxes, ruling tier spend it on themselves and pay no tax.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 30/04/2023 09:25

bellac11 · 30/04/2023 09:18

When will people like you OP realise this is not about 'not having the money to pay for nurses/public services', its that the political decisions are not to pay for these things

Brexit has cost us an arm and a leg, the public voted for this, wanted this and dont care
Covid contracts for privateers cost us an arm and a leg, the public wanted and supported this

I cant stand it when people start winging on about 'why has the government done this' when the populace at large voted for this, and keep voting for this. The role of the tories is to run down public services until they are not fit for purpose and then to bring in privateers to provide them, its very simple, not hard to understand and the public seem to want it. So dont moan about it.

Whilst I agree with you about the Tories and their political will and decision making - the whole point of an elected democratic government is that the public should think critically about what they do and talk about it (moan) if they are unhappy about it. How would it help if everyone just threw up their hands and said 'better suck it up, lots of people voted these clowns in so they can now do as they like with no scrutiny'?
Quite apart from the fact that a significant number of people did not vote this government in.

OP - I agree, it's disgusting. And I don't care if they've been saving for however long. If I left my kids without shoes while I bought a diamond ring 'because I'd been saving for years and so that's a totally separate pot' that would not be ok. Don't see that this is different. I'd like to see a reliable source that shows that revenue directly generated by the coronation will be more than is spent. Even if that were so - how much of that revenue will line the pockets of rich companies who don't pay enough tax? How much will actually benefit the people who actually can't afford to feed and clothe themselves/their children?

Highlyflavouredgravy · 30/04/2023 09:27

Government not govenor