To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

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When there are people reliant on food banks to survive and we are told that there is no money to pay for nurses and teachers pay rises?

Whatever your thoughts are on having a monarchy, having a coronation is unnecessary and was abandoned by other monarchies years ago. If he really wants one, can’t he pay for it himself, given that he has billions of pounds?

Public spending is about choices. We can 'afford' this nonsense because this is where the government has chosen to spend the money. Just like Brexit, dodgy PPE procurement, dodgy Covid grants - all of which have wasted billions not millions. Personally I think this is a turning point for the monarchy - obvious point but many of us tolerated it because the Queen was an exceptional person, but Charles isn't and Wiiliam certainly isn't and I suspect this will be the beginning of the end for the overblown version of the monarchy we have endured in this country.

You can have separate head of government and head of state. Ireland does. Works well for us.

Yes, but if they are both same type, which they would probably be based on who people here vote for.... Not helping, eh.
That's what I meant

Well done on being deliberately obtuse

You queried how we can afford to pay for a coronation when 'we cant afford to pay for nurses'

We can afford to pay for nurses. We can afford to pay for the coronation. It is simply political will that prevents money for the former. Its that simple

We can also afford to pay for better public services, MH services, hospitals, schools, teachers, pot holes, local government provisions, social housing, care homes, etc etc. We as a nation simply choose not to, because 'blah blah blah, socialism bad, blah blah blah, high taxation, blah blah blah, labour bad for the economy'

All these arguments about the coronation and monarchy are a red herring, it makes not a jot if there is a monarchy or not, if there is a head of state or not, the fact is we have a populace who want to vote in right wing governments whose sole aim is to starve public services and local governments and who do not want to pay for the services they then moan about. The public gets what they vote for and the moans about it.

I do agree that it’s crazy to be having a really opulent celebration in a time of crisis and I don’t agree with it.

However, while £250m sounds like a lot of money, it’s equivalent to £3.50 per person in the UK, or about £180 per nurse or teacher. It is a lot of money, but it wouldn’t otherwise be used to provide meaningful solutions to the nations problems.

No I’m not being deliberately obtuse, your point was that the people voted for all of this, therefore they should suck it up, was it not?

Although I do actually agree with you to an extent regarding Brexit, etc.

I thought it was £100m

Either way OP not spending that on the coronation is going to make zero difference to the cost of living crisis in this country. People stopping voting Tory would make a
bigger difference.

YABU.

I don't understand that either. Let them pay for it, they have enough cash. And I most certainly won't be swearing allegiance. They were right to keep that idea under wraps!

Exactly!

OP, you've see the phrase "bread and circuses"?

OP can you link to the official breakdown of the cost?

Only reporting I've seen of it states 100M (same as a US inauguration every 4yrs).

Charles is a billionaire, he should pay if he wants the pomp. Other countries with monarchies don’t have this huge spectacle when a new monarch is announced. The revenue to the economy argument is nonsense, France brings in good revenue from Versailles without a monarchy.

I hope it rains.

Most of that money will be going into pay packets and business accounts tho, it's not like it's being burnt sacrificially. Not to mention the visitors who'll be spending a fortune on accommodation, food, tourist tat and travel.

I hope it rains

What difference is that going to make to anything, given it’s in Westminster Abbey?

Theres always money for the WEF puppet family…

The world wide tv rights alone will cover that.

The worldwide television rights income do not go back to the state ffs

@TooOldForThisNonsense are they teleporting there?

So much nonsense on this thread. The tourism dollars to businesses far outweigh thr cost and no one other than those who are in the abbey are being asked to swear allegiance

Yes. All these events are boost to many businesses. Frankly, hospitality quite needs that in many areas. People will be going out or ordering in, same like with any other major event.

Imagine their sense of entitlement and size of their egos to be planning this whilst so many are going through such hardship. They truly believe they’re deserving of it. They’re clueless and out of touch, but people like them because they visit their city, meet the crowds and pretend they’re one of them.

People on mumsnet are told to read the room if they ask for opinions on picking between 2 nice houses to buy or 2 holiday destinations, paid for with their own money, yet the Royals do this and we’re expected to be good with it. And so many are. 🤯

YABU
We are not spending £100-250million on a coronation. We are producing a coronation akin to making a movie but using real Royalty instead of actors like in The Crown. So while it costs that to produce it, the coronation itself will generate profits of £800m at a minimum that the royal family is then donating to the U.K. Treasury…to us, for our benefit.

Bit on the fence here. If that is how much it all costs it seems relatively small for national budgets - looking at the fiasco of HS2 and garden bridges. But I agree with the premise that national services and the people who provide them are rather more important.

So you have figured and evidence for this.

I keep hearing it said but cannot find anything myself that says net profit to the country will exceed the cost.