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To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

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Kedfs · 30/04/2023 09:13

When there are people reliant on food banks to survive and we are told that there is no money to pay for nurses and teachers pay rises?

Whatever your thoughts are on having a monarchy, having a coronation is unnecessary and was abandoned by other monarchies years ago. If he really wants one, can’t he pay for it himself, given that he has billions of pounds?

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Parisj · 30/04/2023 10:07

These are worth a read whatever your viewpoint

'Now we know how fabulously wealthy Charles is why can't he pay for his own coronation?' www.theguardian.com/uk-news/commentisfree/2023/apr/29/charles-coronation-pay-king-uk-taxpayers?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

'Revealed: royals took more than £1bn income from controversial estates' www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/05/revealed-royals-took-more-than-1bn-income-from-controversial-estates-king-charles-queen-duchies-cornwall-lancaster?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

RosaGallica · 30/04/2023 10:08

I hope it rains That’s just made me smile, and I’ll second it!

Deadpalm · 30/04/2023 10:09

Considering the fact that royals don't have all that wealth in liquidity (obviously), which of the estates would people have them sell of into private hands to pay for the coronation themselves?

electriclight · 30/04/2023 10:09

I'm not a royalist and doubt I will watch but it is reportedly generating more than that in revenue so I have no problem with it.

Sometimes you do have to look into the detail a bit rather than reading the headline.

Polkadotties · 30/04/2023 10:09

If you think that this amount wouldn’t have been spent if there was a labour government in lower than quite frankly you are deluded.

Astralitzia · 30/04/2023 10:09

It is estimated that smoking costs the NHS £2.6bn annually. Drinking £1.7bn. Obesity costs the NHS £6bn annually.

If we want to free up more money for doctors and nurses payrises, I'm not sure £250m on the coronation is where we should start looking.

Emotionalstorm · 30/04/2023 10:10

The royal family more than pay for themselves and do a great service to the country. I think this thread is a bit petty. £250 million isn't that much in the scheme of government spending. We spend way more on other things.

itsgettingweird · 30/04/2023 10:10

Anotherusernameagainitseems · 30/04/2023 09:23

It's marketing for the UK ( people see it on TV and then want to come here on holiday) and building international relationships with foreign dignatories to help build trade and security links.

In addition we could afford to pay better benefits and NHS but enough people have voted conservative so have chosen a government that has prioritised giving money to the rich instead.

And they want to run down education to make sure that the people coming up through it aren't able to have to skills to critically analyse what they are doing.

The rich will afford independent education where they'll be taught big corporate is possible for everyone. Everyone can be millionaires if they just out their mind to it 🙄

Nolosomi · 30/04/2023 10:10

Even if a quarter was spent (paid for by Charlie would be nice and right) there would still be the same revenue - it’s just such a disgusting amount of money to spend.

ChopperC110P · 30/04/2023 10:11

Nolosomi · 30/04/2023 10:01

The worldwide television rights income do not go back to the state ffs

Yes they do because the state is paying for it. The RF would only get royalties r a fee much like an actor would, but they are donating the royalties they’d get back to the state.

itsgettingweird · 30/04/2023 10:11

Highlyflavouredgravy · 30/04/2023 09:24

The thing is, the country CAN afford to pay nurses and teachers more. The governor is making an ideological choice NOT to fund public services.

This a tactical plan; defund public services until they reach breaking point, people get pissed off, you eclare the sevices broken and unworkable and privatise them.

Same is happening in education- cut funding to the bone, rate the school inadequate. Turn it into a privately run academy.

The coronation can be affordedxand this is what they choose to spend the money on.
And people keep voting for it!

This.

KnittedCardi · 30/04/2023 10:12

Most of the money will go to "ordinary" people though. The "costs" are, for example, security. Security is people. Or set up, all the people involved in putting up barriers, stage set ups, cleaning up afterwards. There will be thousands and thousands of people being paid to do something. It's not money down the drain.

Bloopsie · 30/04/2023 10:12

DoggosAloud · 30/04/2023 10:05

Imagine their sense of entitlement and size of their egos to be planning this whilst so many are going through such hardship. They truly believe they’re deserving of it. They’re clueless and out of touch, but people like them because they visit their city, meet the crowds and pretend they’re one of them.

People on mumsnet are told to read the room if they ask for opinions on picking between 2 nice houses to buy or 2 holiday destinations, paid for with their own money, yet the Royals do this and we’re expected to be good with it. And so many are. 🤯

As per in this post people are still eating up the but they bring in money with tourism,no, the houses and the land they have grabbed do not them-how many of these people themselves met the queen? Tourists are not expecting to see any of then they come to look at the architecutre and the stolen loots the royal family has pillaged from across the globe.

france dosent have a parasite family but they still get the tourists.

im puzzled there are people listening these taxpayer funded leeches telling us about the climate when they are the ones flying private jets,helicoptere,4x4s with an entourage etc- i like how william turned up in an electric 150k bmw with catherine and made a point everyone should have one,lol..clueless

GretaGood · 30/04/2023 10:12

So rich people shouldn’t make money from their estates.
So we force them to give them to the state - so some highly skilled and non grabby local councillors🙄- will hand the housing and land round fairly to needy people - yeah! Right!- ………………who will then flog them to the highest bidder who will then become a rich land owner with an estate and on and on

Hoppingmad231 · 30/04/2023 10:13

It's a joke the whole thing basically laughing in the face off everyone struggling it won't be long before there's more cut backs and more kids going hungry but hey ho 1 man has his day. I won't be watching thats for sure!

LakieLady · 30/04/2023 10:13

Deadpalm · 30/04/2023 10:09

Considering the fact that royals don't have all that wealth in liquidity (obviously), which of the estates would people have them sell of into private hands to pay for the coronation themselves?

That's a very good point.

Far better to abolish the monarchy completely and nationalise all the estates, art, jewels etc that were gifts to the monarch because they were the monarch, rather than to RF members personally.

Then all that income could be used to fund our public services. I wouldn't even mind if they sold off some of the art, I believe they have something like 50 Canalettos, and we already have a fair few in national collections.

Summerof76a · 30/04/2023 10:13

Fansandblankets · 30/04/2023 09:15

Well it’s closer to £100 million and the revenue it will generate will far outweigh what it costs.

How do you know it'll generate revenue?

Ostryga · 30/04/2023 10:14

Who on earth is going to watch old sausage fingers have a crown stuck on his head and thinks “wow the U.K. is so aspirational we must holiday there immediately!”

GretaGood · 30/04/2023 10:15

Well the media are fighting over live filming rights and access - obviously a lot of income to be made

ChopperC110P · 30/04/2023 10:15
Come On Shrug GIF

The Yanks spend more every four years on their Presidential Inaugurations.

ChopperC110P · 30/04/2023 10:16

Ostryga · 30/04/2023 10:14

Who on earth is going to watch old sausage fingers have a crown stuck on his head and thinks “wow the U.K. is so aspirational we must holiday there immediately!”

Hotel rates are up 120% over the Coronation and most hotels are fully booked. Airfares have also gone up.

ThinkTheresBeenAGlitch · 30/04/2023 10:18

The Tories can always find a magic money tree when they want. Remember Theresa May bribing the DUP with two billion pounds? They'll justify austerity, forcing families into poverty and running public services into the ground by pretending there is no money. There is plenty of money, it's just all channelled into the pockets of the already wealthy and used to buy power and influence. Charles could easily pay for the coronation himself. It shouldn't be taxpayers footing the bill - not for the coronation, not for the appalling waste of sending portraits of the monarch out (similarly the ridiculous books given to primary school kids for the Jubilee at a time when footballers had to campaign for those children to be fed while the government preferred for them to go hungry!) There is no justification for this bloated display of opulence in a cost of living crisis and I think it will enormously backfire on the royals.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 30/04/2023 10:18

Personally I think paying for the Eurovision Song Contest is a bigger waste of money.

ChopperC110P · 30/04/2023 10:18

LakieLady · 30/04/2023 10:13

That's a very good point.

Far better to abolish the monarchy completely and nationalise all the estates, art, jewels etc that were gifts to the monarch because they were the monarch, rather than to RF members personally.

Then all that income could be used to fund our public services. I wouldn't even mind if they sold off some of the art, I believe they have something like 50 Canalettos, and we already have a fair few in national collections.

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They’ve already done this bit hundreds of years ago by creating the Crown Estate:
”nationalise all the estates, art, jewels etc that were gifts to the monarch because they were the monarch, rather than to RF members personally. Then all that income could be used to fund our public services.”

Around £300m a year of income comes to us from this.

Harebrain · 30/04/2023 10:19

Rather than asking us all to take part in a “great help out” it would have been nice if he’d put the cost of his coronation towards good causes and had a small, family event.