Page 5 | To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

Kedfs · 2023-04-30T08:13:17+00:00

When there are people reliant on food banks to survive and we are told that there is no money to pay for nurses and teachers pay rises? Whatever your thoughts are on having a monarchy, having a coronation is unnecessary and was abandoned by other monarchies years ago. If he really wants one, can’t he pay for it himself, given that he has billions of pounds?

PinkiOcelot · 30/04/2023 10:35

Polkadotties · 30/04/2023 10:09

If you think that this amount wouldn’t have been spent if there was a labour government in lower than quite frankly you are deluded.

OMG. Here we go!! What the hell has Labour got to do with this. Have you got any evidence, at all, to support this?!

Davros · 30/04/2023 10:35

HS2 is at £150 BILLION so far. Work on part of it has been suspended after spending millions. It is already out-of-date. It will no use to most people

LlynTegid · 30/04/2023 10:36

There is money to pay for a decent pay rise for nurses, doctors and have a Coronation. The government voted in having more votes than other parties has decided not to give a decent pay level to nurses and junior doctors.

If you have local elections on Thursday please express your opinion via the ballot box.

Sunshineandrainbow · 30/04/2023 10:36

Wow didn't expect it to cost that much. Unbelievable

DownNative · 30/04/2023 10:40

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is well up the rankings when it comes to global soft power. We're always in the top five and sometimes shift from second to third before shifting back to second.

The Royal Family is very much part and parcel of UK soft power, tbh. The Coronation will ensure we remain so and possibly overtake the US again which we did not too long ago.

The Astra-Zeneca vaccine is another example of British soft power.

Funds for the Coronation was set aside years ago, so takes nothing away from the current budget. These things are always planned years in advance.

Mafelicent · 30/04/2023 10:42

Sunshineandrainbow · 30/04/2023 10:36

Wow didn't expect it to cost that much. Unbelievable

It's somewhere between £1.40 and £3.50 per person in the UK (or £2-5ish if you only count the adults.) It's really not a huge amount of money.

Emotionalstorm · 30/04/2023 10:44

Sunshineandrainbow · 30/04/2023 10:36

Wow didn't expect it to cost that much. Unbelievable

It's not.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 30/04/2023 10:54

ChopperC110P · 30/04/2023 10:06

YABU
We are not spending £100-250million on a coronation. We are producing a coronation akin to making a movie but using real Royalty instead of actors like in The Crown. So while it costs that to produce it, the coronation itself will generate profits of £800m at a minimum that the royal family is then donating to the U.K. Treasury…to us, for our benefit.

Please can you explain exactly how £800 million is going to go back to the state?

namechange3394 · 30/04/2023 11:11

To be fair, the total number of teachers plus nurses in the UK is well over a million (500k+ teachers, 600k+ nurses). So if you split that money between teachers and nurses (ignoring doctors, civil servants, the rest of the public sector) it's only about £200 each. A 4.5% payrise (what they've been offered) for someone on 30k is well over a grand a year, ignoring the additional NI, pension and other employer costs.

£250m sounds like a lot but it's a drop in the ocean when you consider the cost of public sector payrises.

I don't agree with spending £250m on the coronation AT ALL but it's going to take a lot more than 250 mil to give nurses/teachers etc the pay rise they deserve.

yeahscience · 30/04/2023 11:19

Everyone complaining about the costs of the coronation...did you object to the cost of hosting the commonwealth games? That cost us £778 million, and at a time of war in Europe, looming economic crisis etc etc. Or do you recognise the benefits it brings to the country outweighs the cost? Apparently it contributed at least £870 million to the UK economy.

Aishah231 · 30/04/2023 11:27

Fansandblankets · 30/04/2023 09:15

Well it’s closer to £100 million and the revenue it will generate will far outweigh what it costs.

But the revenue generated won't go to the same people whose taxes paid for this shite. I also doubt the price range has taken into account security - that usually gets left off

KnittedCardi · 30/04/2023 11:38

Aishah231 · 30/04/2023 11:27

But the revenue generated won't go to the same people whose taxes paid for this shite. I also doubt the price range has taken into account security - that usually gets left off

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So where do you think the revenue goes?

ChopperC110P · 30/04/2023 11:40

Aishah231 · 30/04/2023 11:27

But the revenue generated won't go to the same people whose taxes paid for this shite. I also doubt the price range has taken into account security - that usually gets left off

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It goes to our struggling hospitality sector and the tv rights income goes to Parliament to spend how they wish. It’s not King Charles fault we have the Tories in power, he doesn’t even have a vote.

Zebedee55 · 30/04/2023 12:14

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 30/04/2023 10:25

You clearly don't see the tourism that is being generated from this. Just because you're miserable about the coronation, doesn't mean everyone is.

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France, with their palaces etc, generate the highest rate of tourism. They haven't had a royal family for a very long time.

You can still generate the money with the "historical" stuff - you don't need fatcat royals.

GretaGood · 30/04/2023 12:19

Zebedee55 · 30/04/2023 12:14

France, with their palaces etc, generate the highest rate of tourism. They haven't had a royal family for a very long time.

You can still generate the money with the "historical" stuff - you don't need fatcat royals.

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Thanks to all us Brits holidaying - unfortunately the U.K. has a v wet climate.

JMSA · 30/04/2023 12:20

It's absolutely shocking. YANBU.

LadyKenya · 30/04/2023 12:42

LuckyStone · 30/04/2023 09:25

Its because there is always money for the governments cronies, mates, pet projects and themselves. They simply dont want to spend money in a way that would benefit ordinary people.

This. It would not be of any benefit to the top tier of society if we were all equal, in terms of economic stability/ wealth.

DownNative · 30/04/2023 12:55

Zebedee55 · 30/04/2023 12:14

France, with their palaces etc, generate the highest rate of tourism. They haven't had a royal family for a very long time.

You can still generate the money with the "historical" stuff - you don't need fatcat royals.

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The French rank below the UK in the soft power rankings. The Royals and all the pageantry that goes with them is a big part of British soft power.

Florenz · 30/04/2023 13:00

It's a one off cost, at least until Charles dies. Giving pay rises to doctors and nurses is an ongoing cost, they are never going to accept a pay cut even when the cost of living crisis is over.

SunnyEgg · 30/04/2023 13:03

DownNative · 30/04/2023 10:40

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is well up the rankings when it comes to global soft power. We're always in the top five and sometimes shift from second to third before shifting back to second.

The Royal Family is very much part and parcel of UK soft power, tbh. The Coronation will ensure we remain so and possibly overtake the US again which we did not too long ago.

The Astra-Zeneca vaccine is another example of British soft power.

Funds for the Coronation was set aside years ago, so takes nothing away from the current budget. These things are always planned years in advance.

Just googled to see the rankings. Didn’t realise we were so high up.

drpet49 · 30/04/2023 13:06

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 30/04/2023 09:19

Worldwide TV rights cover most of it, and the boost to the economy (said to be in excess of 1 billion) will be a massive boost from tourism etc.......

I have no issue with it.

Yes this. It will generate more than £250m

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Kedfs · 30/04/2023 13:07

SunnyEgg · 30/04/2023 13:03

Just googled to see the rankings. Didn’t realise we were so high up.

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How old is the data that produced the soft-power ratings though? Family, friends and colleagues abroad think that the UK is a joke at the moment, and I can’t see someone having millions spent on being crowned leader just because of his family background is going to change that!

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SunnyEgg · 30/04/2023 13:11

Kedfs · 30/04/2023 13:07

How old is the data that produced the soft-power ratings though? Family, friends and colleagues abroad think that the UK is a joke at the moment, and I can’t see someone having millions spent on being crowned leader just because of his family background is going to change that!

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Have a google but the one I found is current. 2023, so reflects Ukraine going up, Russia down and Aus and NZ down a bit after pandemic. eg

https://amp.smh.com.au/world/europe/australia-slips-again-in-global-soft-power-ranking-20230302-p5coqa.html

DownNative · 30/04/2023 13:13

Kedfs · 30/04/2023 13:07

How old is the data that produced the soft-power ratings though? Family, friends and colleagues abroad think that the UK is a joke at the moment, and I can’t see someone having millions spent on being crowned leader just because of his family background is going to change that!

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The UK climbed three places to rank second in 2022. The French are sixth and climbed seven places which means they previously ranked 13th.

To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

DownNative · 30/04/2023 13:14

And 2023.

Anything else?