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Original poster

To not understand how the UK can afford to pay £250 million for the coronation?

375 replies

Kedfs · 30/04/2023 09:13

When there are people reliant on food banks to survive and we are told that there is no money to pay for nurses and teachers pay rises?

Whatever your thoughts are on having a monarchy, having a coronation is unnecessary and was abandoned by other monarchies years ago. If he really wants one, can’t he pay for it himself, given that he has billions of pounds?

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Lovelybrowneyedboy · 30/04/2023 13:19

bellac11 · 30/04/2023 09:18

When will people like you OP realise this is not about 'not having the money to pay for nurses/public services', its that the political decisions are not to pay for these things

Brexit has cost us an arm and a leg, the public voted for this, wanted this and dont care
Covid contracts for privateers cost us an arm and a leg, the public wanted and supported this

I cant stand it when people start winging on about 'why has the government done this' when the populace at large voted for this, and keep voting for this. The role of the tories is to run down public services until they are not fit for purpose and then to bring in privateers to provide them, its very simple, not hard to understand and the public seem to want it. So dont moan about it.

Totally agree, a majority voted for it but a hell of a lot of people didn't. So I think the odd moan is in order.

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Kedfs · 30/04/2023 13:20

It will interesting to monitor those over the next few years!

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DownNative · 30/04/2023 13:26

Kedfs · 30/04/2023 13:20

It will interesting to monitor those over the next few years!

Put it this way, the last seven years of Brexit nightmare negotiations has not sent the UK plummeting down the soft power rankings.

And that's the most vulnerable period when things are still up in the air...

The rankings aren't likely to significantly change from here on for the medium term at least.

Denise82 · 30/04/2023 13:41

bellac11 · 30/04/2023 09:18

When will people like you OP realise this is not about 'not having the money to pay for nurses/public services', its that the political decisions are not to pay for these things

Brexit has cost us an arm and a leg, the public voted for this, wanted this and dont care
Covid contracts for privateers cost us an arm and a leg, the public wanted and supported this

I cant stand it when people start winging on about 'why has the government done this' when the populace at large voted for this, and keep voting for this. The role of the tories is to run down public services until they are not fit for purpose and then to bring in privateers to provide them, its very simple, not hard to understand and the public seem to want it. So dont moan about it.

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Denise82 · 30/04/2023 13:46

It's because there is enough money, the government just like you to think there isn't so they don't have to put enough into public services.

Toomanylatenightprogs · 30/04/2023 14:00

Because it’s organised by the elite to pander to the elite.
They don’t care about people using food banks, or being homeless, or living in abject poverty. These are a mass of people they don’t have to meet, see or think about. As long as enough people turn up and swoon and wave and cheer for a man who happened to just be born to the right woman and his mistress -become - wife then that gives the impression that all is well in Britain.

dizzydizzydizzy · 30/04/2023 14:01

Whatthefnow · 30/04/2023 09:16

I agree op.

What a joke to be honest.

I'd be ashamed of myself taking that money for myself to just to pay for a load of pomp to put a silly hat on.

Just goes to show the little bubble they live in.

This!

MidgeHardcastle · 30/04/2023 14:32

Interesting that people gnash their teeth over the cost of royal events then are completely disinterested in the revenue/profit afterwards. I suppose there's no frothing to be had that's why.

Conkersinautumn · 30/04/2023 14:41

By not caring about its population enough to do the decent thing. Just serfs that have to pledge allegiance to a non working man past retirement age. The bankers are literally telling the poor to know their place, these are not the signs of a modern nation. Its a joke gor the rest of the world at least. Ye olde worlde UK.

User165342 · 30/04/2023 14:44

It's not that much in the scheme of things, lots of things cost a lot more

Florenz · 30/04/2023 14:44

Plenty of other countries have monarchies, and plenty of other countries without monarchies have a far greater divide between rich and poor. I don't see any correlation between the 2 things. If Charles wasn't head of state it'd just some piece of shit politician and it'd cost even more money and there'd be all kinds of corruption and horse trading over who it ended up being. And more accominity as about half the population would always want it to be someone else, just like politics.

KingSpaniel · 30/04/2023 14:48

@Fansandblankets where is your EVIDENCE that it will pay for itself? This BS gets trotted out all the time but the evidence just isn’t there.

OP it’s obscene. It’s Emperor’s new clothes on a grand scale. He’s a vile nasty egotistical arsehole who doesn’t give a shit about any of his fawning subjects. He’s showing this in spades.

Peppapigboresme · 30/04/2023 14:48

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KingSpaniel · 30/04/2023 14:49

@Florenz ”it would cost even more money”. No it wouldn’t. It absolutely categorically wouldn’t. Look at Ireland. It would be far far far cheaper.

KingSpaniel · 30/04/2023 14:50

@User165342 thats not an argument for spaffing £100 million up the wall 😩🤦‍♀️

2bazookas · 30/04/2023 14:57

The Coronation revenue to HMRC will far out weigh the cost to taxpayers. Think of the huge tourism boost, the sale of global film , news, TV, and publicity rights; the souvenir market, the huge volume of food sold for catering streetparties tec.

KingSpaniel · 30/04/2023 15:00

@2bazookas I’d love to see actual proof - real tangible proof of this. The tourist argument is bullshit and god knows about the rest.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 30/04/2023 15:01

L1ttledrummergirl · 30/04/2023 09:21

It's not because there is no money. It's because successive governments have wasted money, or outright given it away to family and friends.
The country has been robbed.

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4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 15:04

electriclight · 30/04/2023 10:09

I'm not a royalist and doubt I will watch but it is reportedly generating more than that in revenue so I have no problem with it.

Sometimes you do have to look into the detail a bit rather than reading the headline.

but it is reportedly generating more than that in revenue so I have no problem with it.

We never get the numbers on this claim though do we?

In the last few years we have had the Platinum Jubilee, state funeral for Prince Phillip, state funeral for the Queen, now this. They look really expensive to me.

What is the total cost of those events? They all happened within a year to 18 months.

Why is it so hard to get the numbers?

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 15:05

electriclight · 30/04/2023 10:20

Retail and hospitality benefited from a spending boost during jubilee weekend last year of about £100m so presumably they can expect similar.

You need to show some evidence of that claim.

I can never find the numbers.

Please help?

XenoBitch · 30/04/2023 15:06

Maybe my understanding of it all is too simplistic, but no one is being deprived of a wage rise or having to use foodbanks because of this. There is not one big pot of money that everything comes out of.

The New Year just gone, there was a few threads about the cost of the London fireworks and how it was distasteful due to the increase in the cost of living.

This event will make a lot for the country, just like the NYE fireworks in London did too.

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 15:07

2bazookas · 30/04/2023 14:57

The Coronation revenue to HMRC will far out weigh the cost to taxpayers. Think of the huge tourism boost, the sale of global film , news, TV, and publicity rights; the souvenir market, the huge volume of food sold for catering streetparties tec.

Can we get some numbers on this?

Some actual data?

It is bandied about so much there has to be source material?

Flappingtarps · 30/04/2023 15:07

4plusthehound · 30/04/2023 15:04

but it is reportedly generating more than that in revenue so I have no problem with it.

We never get the numbers on this claim though do we?

In the last few years we have had the Platinum Jubilee, state funeral for Prince Phillip, state funeral for the Queen, now this. They look really expensive to me.

What is the total cost of those events? They all happened within a year to 18 months.

Why is it so hard to get the numbers?

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Yes in order for this claim to hold its validity, there must be clarity on the figures.

KingSpaniel · 30/04/2023 15:07

@XenoBitch again, EVIDENCE?!? Evidence evidence evidence. The royals have an amazing PR machine that trot this bullshit out but there is no evidence to back it up!

Florenz · 30/04/2023 15:09

KingSpaniel · 30/04/2023 14:49

@Florenz ”it would cost even more money”. No it wouldn’t. It absolutely categorically wouldn’t. Look at Ireland. It would be far far far cheaper.

How would it cost less money? There'd be the expense of an election every few years, the security for not just the current President, but all former Presidents as well, and all the corruption and dodgy dealings that would go as politicians stab each other in the back as the vie to become president and get on the gravy train that lasts a lifetime. Saying "look at Ireland" makes no sense. We aren't Ireland.