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AIBU to think this homage to the King will go badly wrong?

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MRex · 30/04/2023 06:40

According to BBC news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

There are hopes that people will say out loud: "I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God."

The Archbishop of Canterbury will then proclaim "God save the King", with all asked to respond: "God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the King live forever."

This is surely madness. Asking everyone in the Abbey - sure. People crowding nearby might be swayed to say "Hail the King" or something similarly short. But hoping for video footage of crowds in parks and pubs shouting a great long sentence that most don't fully buy into, then doing it again and with "live forever"! Does Charles really think he's liked that much? Is he? It doesn't seem very British at all, and seems destined to be a mess of people saying random stuff loudly.

The new photos were taken in the Blue Drawing Room at Buckingham Palace

Coronation: Public asked to swear allegiance to King Charles

The pledge is among several changes to the service, which will incorporate female clergy and other faiths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

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Doagooddeed · 30/04/2023 08:01

I personally don't understand the idea of swearing allegiance to anything other than God (I'm a Christian). I'll be watching on TV but I wouldn't swear allegiance to a person

I do believe the Bible specific says " there is but one God" on several occasions.

You'd think the head of the CoE and the 'Bishop would know this?

Or is it just politics, trying to unite the nation? i suspect there is Govt influence on this.....

ClaraThePigeon · 30/04/2023 08:03

Will it be followed by the traditional Two Minutes Hate?

Arginalia · 30/04/2023 08:05

"No it's not. It's a huge pumpkin, with a pathetic moustache drawn on it."

Hotcuppatea · 30/04/2023 08:05

Terrible idea that will go down like a damp squib.

Dedodee · 30/04/2023 08:05

Xenia · 30/04/2023 06:42

I think they might have been better just leaving thing as they were for the previous monarch.

I have already been exercised by what I think is called an Oxford comma before the "and" which I really don't think should be there.

A work colleague used to write up the minutes of our laboratory meetings. Her haphazard use of commas was very annoying.

Novella4 · 30/04/2023 08:06

How about 'No'

Hollyhead · 30/04/2023 08:07

I think this has just been misinterpreted and reported badly. It's just a way of including people watching from home/televised broadcasts.

I don't think any part of the instituion thinks that this is something people should do - it's just inclusivity within the formal coronation itself.

FWIW I might watch it on TV but won't join in with any refrains!

Dibbydoos · 30/04/2023 08:08

I thought Charles and William had modernised the coronation. If this is what they came up with it's a joke!

Please let's dismantle the Royal family and elites who hang from their coat tails. They don't need public funding, they are plenty rich enough.

SquidwardBound · 30/04/2023 08:09

Or is it just politics, trying to unite the nation? i suspect there is Govt influence on this.....

presumably even the dimmest member of the government could anticipate that a mass pledge of allegiance to Charles isn’t going to unite the country.

Novella4 · 30/04/2023 08:11

@Mummynew08
You aren't in the minority- the vast majority of the population are not interested in this nonsense
The young no longer want a monarchy

Auxbutteschaumont · 30/04/2023 08:12

I don’t get why people are so worked up by this? It’s just words, they’ll get their montage from the people watching in parks and on the street etc in London, they’re not going to be in your living room filming.

If you don’t want to say it then don’t, surely. It’s ‘all those who desire’ to, and frankly those who can be arsed to sit in a park or line a street for hours to watch a coronation I imagine will also happily repeat the pledge or whatever it is.

It’s for show, for the BBC to put together their little highlights reel, it’s really not that deep.

SoShallINever · 30/04/2023 08:13

How about getting the crowd to sing Oasis "Live forever".

lavenderlou · 30/04/2023 08:13

The sort of people who show up to watch the Coronation on a big screen are far more likely to say this than those that are horrified by the idea and probably won't even be watching.

I'll be watching at home and certainly won't join in, but I'm also not bothered enough about it to go to a special screening. Those that do go are by nature much more interested in the monarchy.

ClaraThePigeon · 30/04/2023 08:14

We'll all be required to have a portrait of him at home at this rate. This is utterly insulting and also rather sinister.

mrsgreggspastry · 30/04/2023 08:15

How about getting the crowd to sing Oasis "Live forever".
Grin

Why do we want him to live forever? surely we should give him a few years in the job first, see how he does.

JulieHoney · 30/04/2023 08:15

The whole thing is ill judged.

strawberryfluff · 30/04/2023 08:15

ClaraThePigeon · 30/04/2023 08:14

We'll all be required to have a portrait of him at home at this rate. This is utterly insulting and also rather sinister.

No one is required to do anything

sashagabadon · 30/04/2023 08:16

I think you are overthinking it! The crowds up the mall etc may or may not say it but it does not really matter!

sashagabadon · 30/04/2023 08:17

ClaraThePigeon · 30/04/2023 08:14

We'll all be required to have a portrait of him at home at this rate. This is utterly insulting and also rather sinister.

🙄😁

TheNefariousOrange · 30/04/2023 08:17

We should haggle for a few more bank holidays.

Cooknook · 30/04/2023 08:17

I highly suspect it'll be one of those things where the complaining about it is far worse than the actual thing. No one has to do it.

CrunchyCarrot · 30/04/2023 08:18

"Long live the King" would have been acceptable to me, but not "May the King live forever"! It's an odd thing to include.

DustyLee123 · 30/04/2023 08:18

It’s ‘Queen’ Camilla that pisses me off the most. She’s not my queen and he’s not my king.

ClaraThePigeon · 30/04/2023 08:19

I don’t get why people are so worked up by this? It’s just words,

You're right. There's absolutely nothing sinister about an struggling population being encouraged to stand en masse, in front of their televisions and declare allegiance to an incredibly rich and unelected leader.

LyndaSnellsSniff · 30/04/2023 08:19

It will certainly separate the Daily Mail-reading, bunting bedecked Royalist sycophants from the rest of the human race.

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