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AIBU to think this homage to the King will go badly wrong?

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MRex · 30/04/2023 06:40

According to BBC news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

There are hopes that people will say out loud: "I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God."

The Archbishop of Canterbury will then proclaim "God save the King", with all asked to respond: "God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the King live forever."

This is surely madness. Asking everyone in the Abbey - sure. People crowding nearby might be swayed to say "Hail the King" or something similarly short. But hoping for video footage of crowds in parks and pubs shouting a great long sentence that most don't fully buy into, then doing it again and with "live forever"! Does Charles really think he's liked that much? Is he? It doesn't seem very British at all, and seems destined to be a mess of people saying random stuff loudly.

The new photos were taken in the Blue Drawing Room at Buckingham Palace

Coronation: Public asked to swear allegiance to King Charles

The pledge is among several changes to the service, which will incorporate female clergy and other faiths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

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SinnerBoy · 07/05/2023 12:06

sashagabadon · Today 10:59

Under 45’s grow up though and start to value duty and service

Oh god, not the duty and service, they work so hard and just think, if we got rid of them, we could get President Boris schtick!

They're massively over privileged, with vast amounts of unearned wealth. They're born with hot and cold running lackeys and none of them lift a finger, even if they do shake hands with Mugabe etc.

Aside from anything else, they don't stay out of politics, Queenie didn't and Chucky certainly hasn't. They've had a veto on what the BCC could say about them in the behatment rigmarole.

Hollyhead · 07/05/2023 12:15

@Novella4 well I’ve got more left wing with age so that doesn’t necessarily come in to it.
Based on facts, a slimmed down monarchy - which I think Charles will start, is still my preference over making constitutional changes based on emotion, which is what we did on Brexit and look where that got us.

Novella4 · 07/05/2023 12:25

@Hollyhead

Slimmed down monarchy hasn't appeared and if it does , it will not mean less money taken by the Windsors
Just more money for a smaller group

I'm sure people on working on it now
At least I hope so !
The monarchy can stay if people want that .Just separate it from our democracy and no more money.
I think the Windsors would walk first once the money stops
The House of Lords need reformed
Let an elected person rubber stamp laws - rather than letting the Windsors have a look to see what they exclude themselves from before letting it all apply to the rest of us
I mean , it's a mockery what they get away with

If they were subject to the law and paid all their taxes that would be a start

BadgerB · 07/05/2023 12:30

SinnerBoy · Today 12:06
Queenie didn't and Chucky certainly hasn't.

Any argument that feels the need to use name-calling can't be worth even considering...

CriticalAlert · 07/05/2023 13:41

vera99 · 07/05/2023 12:01

Remember them - I saw them and was a bit of a punk and trot back then, derxa. So no change there. I took part in 1977 Stuff the Jubilee and still have my badge ! But it was a lot easier to muddle along, drop in or out if you wanted to, cheap rents, squatting was a thing, and you didn't need a load of stuff to be happy. I basically had a free university education from lower middle class parents and dole in the holidays was there to be had and could buy a studio flat in Eastbourne for 2x my salary. Rock against Racism gigs, the GLC Red Ken - happy daze. Then came Thatcher .....

You are so right! Along came Thatcher with the ethos that the working class had had it too good for too long! The Tories are now eating us alive.

derxa · 07/05/2023 14:19

nd you didn't need a load of stuff to be happy. I basically had a free university education Well people seem to need a lot of stuff to be happy now. Keir isn't going to give people a free university education either.

Earlydancing · 07/05/2023 14:38

Slimmed down monarchy hasn't appeared and if it does , it will not mean less money taken by the Windsors
Just more money for a smaller group

But that's because the money that's given in the sovereign grant doesn't go to pay any wages. It goes on things that would still have to be paid for no matter who was in charge. Like upkeep of buildings and hosting and entertaining.

Earlydancing · 07/05/2023 14:42

Out of interest, did the homage go badly wrong yesterday?

Blossomtoes · 07/05/2023 18:14

CriticalAlert · 07/05/2023 13:41

You are so right! Along came Thatcher with the ethos that the working class had had it too good for too long! The Tories are now eating us alive.

That wasn’t Thatcher’s ethos at all. Her aim was to turn the working class into Tories by bribing them with the chance to buy council houses at knock down prices and urging them to buy shares in the public services she sold off.

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