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AIBU to think this homage to the King will go badly wrong?

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MRex · 30/04/2023 06:40

According to BBC news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

There are hopes that people will say out loud: "I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God."

The Archbishop of Canterbury will then proclaim "God save the King", with all asked to respond: "God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the King live forever."

This is surely madness. Asking everyone in the Abbey - sure. People crowding nearby might be swayed to say "Hail the King" or something similarly short. But hoping for video footage of crowds in parks and pubs shouting a great long sentence that most don't fully buy into, then doing it again and with "live forever"! Does Charles really think he's liked that much? Is he? It doesn't seem very British at all, and seems destined to be a mess of people saying random stuff loudly.

The new photos were taken in the Blue Drawing Room at Buckingham Palace

Coronation: Public asked to swear allegiance to King Charles

The pledge is among several changes to the service, which will incorporate female clergy and other faiths.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

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uokayhun · 01/05/2023 20:53

benkenobi · 01/05/2023 18:17

I'm with the Celtic fans on this one ✌🏿

Indeed.

Cultish nonsense for weirdos and losers. I am nobody's 'subject'.

SockGoddess · 01/05/2023 21:26

The whole thing’s a bloody travesty. Two adulterers being head of the church, anointed with holy oil and religiously higher up the ladder to God than the Bishop of Canterbury!

Well adultery in monarchs is definitely something with a long history.

Even some popes were at it in the past too.

asdfgasdfg · 01/05/2023 21:30

I'll be gardening but thanks for the extra day off Charlie

Blossomtoes · 01/05/2023 22:09

SockGoddess · 01/05/2023 21:26

The whole thing’s a bloody travesty. Two adulterers being head of the church, anointed with holy oil and religiously higher up the ladder to God than the Bishop of Canterbury!

Well adultery in monarchs is definitely something with a long history.

Even some popes were at it in the past too.

Exactly. The Church of England only exists because of its founder’s adultery.

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 22:09

SockGoddess · 01/05/2023 21:26

The whole thing’s a bloody travesty. Two adulterers being head of the church, anointed with holy oil and religiously higher up the ladder to God than the Bishop of Canterbury!

Well adultery in monarchs is definitely something with a long history.

Even some popes were at it in the past too.

Yep and they raped children as well. A couple of Charles mates were child rapists.

LadyKenya · 01/05/2023 22:18

pookie999 · 01/05/2023 19:49

It makes me feel disgusted that any person thinks they are that important. Beggars belief

He has been treated as such since the day he was born, and has gone through life with people seeing to his every whim, and the public at large treating him, and his family as if they are some sort of deity. Of course he will naturally feel important, and entitled.

Teribus21 · 01/05/2023 22:37

Fortunately, it’s pretty much a bunting and sycophancy free zone here in Scotland. We’ll be going to Glasgow for the independence march on Saturday where the turnout is expected to be high although I don’t suppose the lickspittles at the BBC or in the MSM will cover it. I understand we’ll have the opportunity to pledge allegiance to an independent Scotland which I am thankful to have the opportunity to do. What a pity Humza Useless has decided he’d rather tug his forelock to KfC3.

Owl55 · 01/05/2023 22:59

I agree With Dusty Lee123 Camilla will never be my Queen! 🥶

Swallowdoubleandrunamile · 01/05/2023 22:59

ClaraThePigeon · 30/04/2023 08:03

Will it be followed by the traditional Two Minutes Hate?

Excellent.

AlinaRawlings · 01/05/2023 23:13

MRex · 30/04/2023 06:40

According to BBC news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65435426

There are hopes that people will say out loud: "I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God."

The Archbishop of Canterbury will then proclaim "God save the King", with all asked to respond: "God save King Charles. Long live King Charles. May the King live forever."

This is surely madness. Asking everyone in the Abbey - sure. People crowding nearby might be swayed to say "Hail the King" or something similarly short. But hoping for video footage of crowds in parks and pubs shouting a great long sentence that most don't fully buy into, then doing it again and with "live forever"! Does Charles really think he's liked that much? Is he? It doesn't seem very British at all, and seems destined to be a mess of people saying random stuff loudly.

If you do this you need your hard drive checking you absolute weirdo 😂

Bababette · 02/05/2023 01:15

That doesn’t excuse it

Bababette · 02/05/2023 01:23

SockGoddess · 01/05/2023 21:26

The whole thing’s a bloody travesty. Two adulterers being head of the church, anointed with holy oil and religiously higher up the ladder to God than the Bishop of Canterbury!

Well adultery in monarchs is definitely something with a long history.

Even some popes were at it in the past too.

Just because other equally moral deviants did it doesn’t make it ok. They are meant to be an example to their subjects - well god help us all!

Junosui · 02/05/2023 01:41

The NHS is on its knees. Millions of people don't have enough food. Services and safety nets have been slashed to the bone. Schools don't have enough money to resource education properly. The rivers are fucked. The workplace is getting more dangerous again. There's no money for anything.

And yet. £100 million on this fucking circus.

Since Brexit, this country looks like an insular, vain, stupid little mess of a nation, yet we still deludedly chuck millions at ceremonial shit like this and preen for a day, before sinking back to looking like a fucking xenophobic, moronic joke on the world stage, as a result of our self-inflicted wounds.

No, I will not be 'swearing allegiance.' FFS. It's 2023. It's grotesque.

Northernsouloldies · 02/05/2023 02:26

Teribus21 · 01/05/2023 22:37

Fortunately, it’s pretty much a bunting and sycophancy free zone here in Scotland. We’ll be going to Glasgow for the independence march on Saturday where the turnout is expected to be high although I don’t suppose the lickspittles at the BBC or in the MSM will cover it. I understand we’ll have the opportunity to pledge allegiance to an independent Scotland which I am thankful to have the opportunity to do. What a pity Humza Useless has decided he’d rather tug his forelock to KfC3.

As to regards to the indy march. A few thousand face painted fools with nylon saltires draped over their shoulders like bairns with their jackets roon their necks pretending to be superheroes do not speak for the whole of Scotland.

MummyNeedsADrinkDear · 02/05/2023 03:21

The whole thing can just fuck off.

mathanxiety · 02/05/2023 03:57

Luredbyapomegranate · 30/04/2023 08:24

I am not a royalist but this thread is silly, they are just extending the offer to join in from just peers to whoever wants to.

There’s nothing wrong with that, and it is not the same as expecting most people to
do it - of course they don’t expect that.

If you read the statement made by the Archbishop I think you'll see that they do actually expect (in the sense of anticipate) a deafening roar - 'a chorus of millions of voices' - from the populace. I think they've misjudged it, but heyho.

The swearing of allegiance by the populace is to replace the peers' oath.

BadgerB · 02/05/2023 06:03

I'm amazed at the depth of hatred on MN for Charles. It seems many think he ought to be "an example to us all" Why?

And, no, I wont be pledging allegiance in front of my TV. But I wish him well.

BadgerB · 02/05/2023 06:16

Rockybooboo · Yesterday 20:15
Its different. Charles is being crowned this week and we're supposed to swear allegiance to him.

He's being crowned, not canonized! His moral standing has nothing to do with it.

And you don't have to swear allegiance, unless you're in the Abbey. I won't be doing it.

SinnerBoy · 02/05/2023 06:23

Why would I? What has the over-privileged, arrogant snob ever done to deserve it? Born with a ruby encrusted platinum spoon in his ill advised gob, hot and cold running sycophants to put toothpaste on his brush and tell him how wonderful he is.

Lecturing us on the environment, whilst being driven hither and thither in his 8 litre Bentley, flying his mistress around to meet him - when he was married - on the public tit.

Not to mention being a member of the worst load of benefit scroungers ever to have existed.

I couldn't care less if he slips on the holy oil and breaks his dentures.

Anonymouseposter · 02/05/2023 06:24

I don’t dislike Charles and I will watch on TV but I won’t be joining in a crowd scene from a Monty Python sketch.

Joystir59 · 02/05/2023 06:32

BadgerB · 30/04/2023 08:44

I prefer a constitutional monarchy to an elected Head of State (we elect such wonderful people, don't we?) and I shall be watching the whole thing on T.V.

However, no way will I do something so ridiculous as "pledge allegiance" with only the dog as witness - he's an anarchist and might bite me.

My dog will go ape if I stand up and proclaim my allegiance in front of the telly. Anything that detracts from my allegiance to him will not go down well.

greyhairnomore · 02/05/2023 06:46

Vegetus · 30/04/2023 06:55

It's such an odd thing a good majority of the British public will bow to a man who just happened to fall out of the right vagina at the right time.

Get rid of 'em.

Exactly

jamdonut · 02/05/2023 07:08

You don’t HAVE to do it!
(And I’m a Royalist!)
They can’t keep tabs on the people saying it, at home or at work, so if you don’t like it - don’t say it!!! But for those attending the service or in the armed forces (or other governmental services) it might be expected?

(A bit in my wedding ceremony, recently, the congregation were asked to promise to support us in our marriage ( or something like that - a bit like God-parents at a christening )…. It was new to us, we’d not heard anything like that in a wedding service before!… they didn’t have to, but people did!)

it’s your choice…. You are “invited” to.

jamdonut · 02/05/2023 07:13

…..and another thing: that’s the media blowing it all out of proportion so that people who likely to be, or are anti- monarchists anyway, will be offended. This is the usual way with “news” outlets these days. They just can’t help shit-stirring.

sashagabadon · 02/05/2023 07:23

I think it’s a great idea. The monarchists can say the oath with gusto. The republicans can NOT say the oath with equal gusto and the rest of us can do whatever they want and no one will care one way or the other