Is she English or Portuguese? Please help me settle a debate

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I live in Portugal, I’m English, as is Dh, but Dd was born here.
My dad says Dd is Portuguese as she was born here, I say English because we’re both English…who is right? How does it work if you’re born in a different country to your parents etc?

A quick google search reveals that a new law that came in in November 2020 grants citizenship to children born in Portugal to foreign parents, if at least one parent had been legally resident in Portugal for at least a year. It also seems that both the parents' marriage and the birth must have be registered with Portuguese authorities, but I'm not entirely sure about that bit - you should probably consult an immigration lawyer in Portugal.

British automatically and will hold a British passport.

It's a lot more than that, as a Portuguese passport would give her rights to live, work etc in all EU countries in future, as well as getting Home Fees for universities all over the EU. And of course her British citizenship will entitle her to the same in the UK (apart from the Home Fees bit if she was born after 2020).

I was born in Africa to British parents. My birth was registered at the British consulate and I was a British citizen from birth. Never a citizen of the country I was born in. I’m not African. I’m British.

She’s a duel national - so both.

Whether she feels culturally Portuguese or English will depend on how you bring her up and how much she mixes in the local culture and how long you all stay there.

No, she's definitely British (as long as at least one of her British parents was born in the UK). Whether or not she's also legally Portuguese will depend on the specific laws in Portugal. She may well be both.
Her IDENTITY may well be mainly Portuguese if that's where she grows up - but legally she's British and entitled to a British passport.

She’s both

Agree.

@Whalesong

I meant in terms of her identity. I was not thinking legally. If she is going to reside in Portugal throughout her childhood, then she is technically Portuguese but her heritage is British/English due to her parents.

If she has citizenship for both, then she's whatever she wants to be when she's older.

I was born in England, lived most of my life in Wales, to one English and one Welsh parent.
I consider myself English. My younger brother considers himself Welsh, despite living most of his adult life in England. More of his childhood was spent in Wales though, so that's the nation he mostly identifies with.

https://immigrantinvest.com/blog/blitz-eu-citizenship-at-birth-en/#:~:text=This%20means%20that%20a%20child,of%20soil%20is%20in%20Portugal.

I dont know. Definitely get her an EU passport though!

So, someone born in U.K. to Irish parents is Irish according to Irish laws.

but can also have British citizenship according to U.K. laws

This.
It depends on whether you are asking about ethnicity, or citizenship, as they are two different things. Eg my DH is a British citizen, but only half British by ethnicity.

She can be British but may need to register. She may be lucky enough to be Portuguese and therefore European as in thr sense that she can have freedom of movement etc all the things Brexit deprived us of.

''English'' is not a nationality...

Your daughter should have the right to claim both Portuguese and British citizenship.

She is not ethnically Portuguese and legally it depends on Portuguese law. For example, You wouldn’t be British if born to French parents living in London, unless those French parents had acquired British citizenship.

Is she grows up in Portugal, she will most likely identify as Portuguese despite her parents being British.

I have a relation born outside the UK to two British parents. It was a bit of a nightmare to get British citizenship. Grandparents documents (birth certificates at least)as well as the parents, had to be sent to the Consulate.

For example, You wouldn’t be British if born to French parents living in London, unless those French parents had acquired British citizenship
That's actually incorrect if one parent has settled status, they don't need citizenship.

She is both, because she is entitled to citizenship in both countries.

If you were talking culturally and not legally I would flip it the other way; if an immigrant family move to the UK and have children here I would class the kids as British with XXX heritage. Certainly when these children return to their parents homelands on holidays they are considered British too :)

In fact isn't this question a little like the 'where are you REALLY from?' problem? Your daughter is Portuguese:)

How do you feel about Rishi Sunak, op? Is he 'really' British? After all, neither of his parents were born in Britain. Is he maybe half British, or a bit British, or British-ish. I guess it is the same for your own children, but Portugese-ish.

Where do you live now? Where is your permanent home ?

Or ilr or euss