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I know it's been done to death, but I wish DH would stop WFH

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Iwrote · 28/04/2023 13:08

Anyone else in the same boat?

DH has the office and I have the dining table, but he's up and down, chatting, getting drinks, moaning, generally distracting me until I have to ask him to please leave me in peace. He doesn't do anything useful in these frequent trips, too busy to empty the dishwasher but not busy enough to not drive me nuts.
Days I don't work I pick youngest up from nursery and then have to stop her busting in on her Dad when he's on calls etc, I feel like my home isn't my own.
I wish he'd just fuck off back to the office, as least a few days a week. I know there's a commute, but I feel like I'm a woman on the edge.

OP posts:
Comedycook · 29/04/2023 09:15

Or women who have nice partners who don't act like you've described in your unhinged rant? Sorry you married a dud, I guess

my DH is a wonderful man and I love him to bits...but, I really struggle being with him all day. That's not a reflection on him. I don't want to be with anyone all day every day.

nomoredriving · 29/04/2023 09:44

Fourwallsclosingin · 29/04/2023 08:25

@nomoredriving personally I think it's unhealthy for people to be together 24/7, I think they should also have their own friends and other interests otherwise it can be very co-dependent, obviously of a couple wants to spend 24/7 then good for them, but when you don't and don't have many options it can definitely wear you down

I'm not arguing with that, but this post has so many women disrespecting men having time in their own homes it's shocking.

We've got one person saying women get released because their husbands retire! Jesus fucking Christ, really?

My DH is due to retire in three months, I WFH most days and won't retire for some years. We've discussed time alone in the house, so I'm going to go into the office twice a week now. He's going to do some volunteering on the days up home

Mutually respectful and I cannot wait for him to retire.

Rosesbloomingnow · 29/04/2023 09:58

SecretsIWouldNeverTell · 28/04/2023 22:08

@Iwrote

You're not being unreasonable at all, OP. There's always people on these threads that say 'how come women can do what they want in their homes when they want?' and 'how come women should be allowed to stay at home but their men can't?' ...... blah blah blah yadda yadda?!

Basically, the long and short of it is when women are at home, they just tootle about and do their thing, tidy up, prep for dinner, do some cleaning, do some washing and ironing and home admin or childcare. AND/OR they'll do their 'work from home,' job. They do it peacefully and quietly and without fuss or drama.

When men are at home, whether they are just on days off, or are off sick, or whether they are working from home, they completely dominate the airspace, the home, every single room, and the atmosphere. As people have said, they expect the whole of the family: (their wife/partner and the kids, and any visitors, friends or extended family,) to keep completely quiet. Even the fucking dogs and cats must shushhhhhh!

And yet the MAN whenever he's ready, (and has shushed everyone from even breathing loudly while he does his big important job AT HOME,) goes around dominating the home and whistling and humming and tapping, and speaking loudly and yawning loudly, and eating loudly, and grunting and moaning, and following you around from room to room asking question after question........ 'what you doing, what you looking at, what's that, what you reading, who you been talking to, who you texting, who you messaging......' And giving you a running commentary of what he's watching, or what he's looking at on the computer..... And telling you shit you already know, coz he has told you 15 times already! And other banal fucking shit.

The fact is, the effect of a man stuck in the house all day - when a woman is trying to work from home, or get on with housework/childcare/home admin/chores etc, is completely different to the effect of a woman being around when a man's working from home or trying to do anything at home.

Many men are high maintenance and very irritating when they're stuck at home. This is why there's such a high level of depression from women when their husbands retire. Because they moan and mither and pester, and won't stop following their wife around and asking them questions, and whining, and commenting on everything.

I can't believe some people don't get it. These people are clearly single women, or women whose husbands are out from 8 in the morning til 8 at night. Away all the time doing their big important job and their 'man hobbies.' And they do not get what it's like to have a man hanging around the house instead of being where he should be .... out at work! AWAY from the home. YES that's what I said. Don't question me about it. This is my opinion and no dissing or nagging or goading will change it.

You've clearly met my husband😁

raincamepouringdown · 29/04/2023 10:15

He has an office option; you don't. So you get the home office. Be firm.

If he can't function at the dining room table when your toddler is home, he goes back to the office.

BarrelOfOtters · 29/04/2023 10:26

We work from home on different days…he keeps suggesting we coincide and I murmur how the boss likes us all in on certain days that just happen to be the days he wfh….

he’s too irritating.

Mortimercat · 29/04/2023 10:36

I think you are unreasonable saying he should go back to the office unless you are planning to do the same or have looked into it and can’t go in for some reason.

My DH goes in usually one day a week, doesn’t bother me at all that he is at home, he works in the home office and then is “home” by just after 5pm rather than around 7pm.

Crikeyalmighty · 29/04/2023 10:47

@SecretsIWouldNeverTell others might not like it but I think you are incredibly accurate for a great many men- )not all obviously) especially as they get older and particularly ones without local friends/hobbies. It's why I sorted the co working hub for me all those years ago. It was a daily running commentary of moans and opinions - . I envy those women whose partners disappear into a room only to emerge for a very occasional coffee or to make their lunch. As I said below it made me feel like a pensioner before I was anywhere close to it.

Mirabai · 29/04/2023 10:48

Could you afford a garden office? One takes the office pod the other had them study.

Howtohideasausage · 29/04/2023 10:48

Of course he should go to the office, at least 3 days a week.

Crikeyalmighty · 29/04/2023 10:50

@Fourwallsclosingin I don't think many realise how co dependent they sound and blooming old before their time too. I can appreciate the convenience of it if you have young children but I think it works far better if just 1 of you has a job like this.

SkyandSurf · 29/04/2023 11:00

raincamepouringdown · 29/04/2023 10:15

He has an office option; you don't. So you get the home office. Be firm.

If he can't function at the dining room table when your toddler is home, he goes back to the office.

I agree with this.

I would love to see data on how many husbands vs wives have the plumb office space in the home.

It seems like every thread on here, the man is in the proper office while the woman is expected to make do somewhere else.

SallyWD · 29/04/2023 11:08

I completely understand. I love my DH but can't bear it when he works from home. I feel sooo much more comfortable when he's in the office!

celticprincess · 29/04/2023 11:08

I’m actively seeking a work from home job. I’m a teacher but want out. Only part time at the moment. All this talk of work from home sounds bliss - the worst part of my job is the commute. I was in every one of my working days through lockdown. I’m a single parent so wouldn’t have the other person to worry about at home. And the kids are both school age. Used to have a hybrid job about 15 years ago and it was fab. Office, home, visiting different places, extended trips away to conferences (before kids). I’d settle for the home now though.

MadCatLady27 · 29/04/2023 11:08

I prefer mine WFH as it saves money on the commute, but it sets my teeth on edge the rare times I get to do it and he's there too (I'm mainly office based but occasionally get to WFH if I need to concentrate on something)

Concentration is not assisted by bursts of hee hawing and guffawing erupting from downstairs if he's on a call. The volume he speaks seems to be doubled. I'll be concentrating on something, then there'll be a huge burst of laughter that makes me want to either rip off my ears or hit him over the head with something

Are they really THAT FUNNY?!

He's going into the office more and I had a day completely alone at home. I got an absolute tonne done as no calls from office and a silent house!

orangenzaft · 29/04/2023 11:54

Need to get him in line more. Dh and I both wfh and we love it. It's his lack of respect for you that's an issue. You should be able to maintain your personal space and home without him dominating all the rules around it.

I think dc should be able to be kept out of a room though. We have a couple of rooms the dc aren't allowed in. They know and are reprimanded if they go in them (one containing large items that could hurt them so they HAVE to stay out) compromise is your friend here.

RosesAndHellebores · 29/04/2023 11:56

It sounds like the op's dh isn't that busy. That's what would annoy me.

During the first lockdown DH and I worked from home and DC came back from uni and had digital lectures/tutorials.

The dc worked in their bedrooms which obviously had desks due to school work. DH had his study. I set up a desk elsewhere.

It was all fine. We didn't get under each others' feet. In fact a huge positive was that DH realised how hard I work and how senior I am. DH and I now share his study. If one of us has to work from home the other goes in. I tend to go in Monday, Tuesday, Friday. DH is most likely to work from home Monday/Fridays.

Like all things in marriage there has to be compromise.

SkunkFiles · 29/04/2023 12:02

yanbu that’d drive me batty

squishee · 29/04/2023 12:43

Plus there's no point in asking your DP how their day was, since you already know the answer and have been in the same 4 walls with each others' calls going on all day. Tedious and cloying.

squishee · 29/04/2023 12:58

Comedycook · 29/04/2023 09:15

Or women who have nice partners who don't act like you've described in your unhinged rant? Sorry you married a dud, I guess

my DH is a wonderful man and I love him to bits...but, I really struggle being with him all day. That's not a reflection on him. I don't want to be with anyone all day every day.

I second this. And I feel like the more time DH and I spend together, the less time we spend having sex. Maybe that particular argument would convince him to spend more time at the office Grin

Thankfully though, his WFH days are now numbered... Hurrah!

Mrstwiddle · 29/04/2023 13:19

@SecretsIWouldNeverTell

Absolutely agree. You've put it far more eloquently than I ever could.

"Many men are high maintenance and very irritating when they're stuck at home. This is why there's such a high level of depression from women when their husbands retire. Because they moan and mither and pester, and won't stop following their wife around and asking them questions, and whining, and commenting on everything."

The above is exactly what my mother is going through atm due to my fathers recent retirement, it's quite reassuring in a way to know it's not just him!

LlynTegid · 29/04/2023 13:56

I don't think he should go back to the office, he should change his behaviour. Such as putting things in and out of the dishwasher or just being quiet.

Unless he is one of the minority who can drive considerately or be reasonable on public transport, I'd prefer him not to travel, for the benefit of those whose job cannot be done at home.

revealmyjackpot · 29/04/2023 14:04

Homes aren't offices. People shouldn't be doing their jobs in them. Small children should be able to see their homes as homes. It is shit for them, never mind for the person who is constantly badgered by the person who is supposed to be working.

WFH is one of the many shit things to emerge from lockdown. It can't be good for your sex life, either.

Theluggage15 · 29/04/2023 14:06

You don’t need to do anything to make life easier for him. If he doesn’t like it, tough. He has a perfectly good office to go to.

Luckily both me and my husband enjoy going into our offices, on the occasional times we work from home we make sure the other is in the office! Works for us.

nomoredriving · 29/04/2023 14:11

Mrstwiddle · 29/04/2023 13:19

@SecretsIWouldNeverTell

Absolutely agree. You've put it far more eloquently than I ever could.

"Many men are high maintenance and very irritating when they're stuck at home. This is why there's such a high level of depression from women when their husbands retire. Because they moan and mither and pester, and won't stop following their wife around and asking them questions, and whining, and commenting on everything."

The above is exactly what my mother is going through atm due to my fathers recent retirement, it's quite reassuring in a way to know it's not just him!

Some women are so territorial and lack the understanding that the home isn't theirs alone.

So greedy and selfish, they struggle.

nickelbabe · 29/04/2023 14:50

I'm going to give advice, hope that's okay!

Firstly, open the channels of communication. Tell him that you find it very hard to work when he comes downstairs, as his breaks aren't the same time as your breaks.
Sit down with him and make a timetable. Yes, I know that's giving you more mental load, but he is obviously oblivious to what's happening. In your timetable, put what number of hours each of you works, when you have to do pick up of child/ren and who will do that. Schedule joint breaks - lunch or a quick ten minute teabreak together.
Have core hours when you cannot be disturbed. Make sure he understands he can't just keep chatting to you just because he's in the same room.
Also put into this timetable all non-work hours, and cleaning times for both of you. You can both have this as a flexible timetable - update it weekly, or whenever you need to.

I also think you need to separate your working space from family space. If you have to work when the toddler is at home, set up an area in your room so they can play when you're working. If your toddler is at home when your dh is working, I really do agree with those who say a stairgate, and yes, if you're the one looking after the toddler, you'll have to make sure they don't barge in on the office (even if it means getting a lock for the office door). He must give you the same deal if he's in charge of toddler.
Separating your workspace - it sounds like your dining room is in the same space as your kitchen, so I think you should get one of thosefolding changing screens and a little desk (even if it's a foldaway one) and set it up at the far end of the dining room. If you need to, you can put a "do not disturb" sign on the outside when you absolutely cannot be interrupted. That way, you've got your own office, too, and he can't confuse it with you being "at home". And you can fold it all away when you need the dining room to be family space.

I honestly think that he's not going to offer up a solution because he just doesn't see you as "at work" because you are in a family space.
I used to work in a big open office, and there were always colleagues who needed to talk or interact with others all the way through the day, especially when work was boring, so I can see why he's doing it, even though it's driving you batty.

Hope some of this is useful

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