To think boys shouldn’t go in to men’s toilets???

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This is hypothetical I seen another post about someone not letting their 9 year old use mens public bathrooms

what age do other people let their children go in to toilets on their own?

and how do you navigate them using the disabled toilets if not?? I’d be so worried in case someone actually disabled needed them

Yes you do. I've wandered into the men's loos on occasion (I'm absent-minded) and there were definitely men standing holding their penises as they peed against the urinals.

There's been a sexual assault on a boy at my local community garden loos and another in our local swimming pool changing room in the last two years. Those are just the ones I've heard about. So I don't think it's "hysterical" to want my DS (10) accompanied to the loo or with me in the women's.

Well lucky you! Sorry I didn't know it was a competition. You win 🏆

@Satsumastocking why can't you accompany your 10 year old son into the men's loos? Wouldn't that be better than insisting he's in the women's toilets because you're not confident that he can go to the toilet alone?

10? Poor kid.

I actually used the mens loos at a service station and in a Theatre as the wait for the ladies was too long and I can’t hold it in that long.

Definately saw men at urinals and everything on show.

No one said anything about a competition. I said that in my experience (which like SimonJT's will be far wider than yours) men's toilets aren't generally like the picture you paint of your workplace.

🤣 these threads are so embarrassing to most normal women 😳

That’s not what I said. It’s that these issues always be one door thing for women to solve or deal with how about designing toilets for families. Actual kiddie loos that are safe where parents can take kids matter what the sex if either is instead of once again shoving everything to do with kids onto women.

Because of dodgy weirdos in men's loos!

When does a boy go from being a boy to a dodgy weirdo? Because by this analogy it's not safe for women to have a potential fifth weirdo in their space?

Dodgy not fifth FFS!

Why did you walk up to them and purposely look over their shoulders?

Only on Mumsnet are some people obsessed with toilets.

I've just asked DH if he's ever seen a dick at a urinal and he looked at me as though I'm mental and said 'No but then I don't deliberately look for them over men's shoulders'!

@Satsumastocking unless all the men in that toilet had 12 inch ducks when flaccid, you wouldn't see a thing!

What a load of twaddle!

Men's toilets can be dirty and sleazy but most are perfectly ok. Both my sons went in alone at a fairly young age while I waited outside. It's a judgement call the same as letting them walk to the shops, catch a bus or cross the road. They need to be independent but with caution.
I've also been in the ladies loos to rescue my daughter when she was locked in a cubicle and a few other occasion. I've never felt uncomfortable or had any problems and always found women very helpful in that respect.
sometimes we see problems which aren't there.

Exactly! My DH said the same.

Here we're talking about prepubescent males. I'm sure if they're already weirdos, they're pretty much harmless before then. Not forgetting they'll be with their mum, unlike the grown adult males in the mens.

@CellophaneFlower I thought on MN every make was presumed predatory.

Oh yes, I forgot that bit 🤣

Or even male

In my 35 years the only one I’ve seen that isn’t mine is my husbands when I jokingly had a look (no one else was at the urinals), plus the law of the urinal states unless there is only one free, never ever pick one thats next to an occupied urinal. On top of that when they’re flaccid you’d be hard to pushed to see anything unless someone is a very impressive shower.

I used to use the men's toilets quite alot because the queues are always much shorter, and I don't think I've ever seen a dick. Although I'm guessing that's not relevant if some perve wants to attack a young child, I think that scenario will be quite different

Clues are in the names… School toilets are used by school kids and public toilets are used by anyone… so big difference.

The child is safe in the ladies toilets with his mum, and so are all the girls and ladies in there. Get a bloody grip.

"99% of sex crimes aren't committed by women. I'll take my boy into the women's until he's 8/9"

Presumably 99% of sex crimes aren't committed in the men's toilets.