To think boys shouldn’t go in to men’s toilets???

[Scotlandma]

This is hypothetical I seen another post about someone not letting their 9 year old use mens public bathrooms

what age do other people let their children go in to toilets on their own?

and how do you navigate them using the disabled toilets if not?? I’d be so worried in case someone actually disabled needed them

You too @roaringmouse x

As if you dont know what genuine concerns there are sending a kid into men's toilets which mums can't go in to.
In york at some public toilets and a dad had a young daughter who i actually escorted into the ladies because he didnt want hrr in the mens EVEN with him present.

Thanks so much for the heads up. I'll be sure to check the coast is clear before we exit the loos with our heads hung in shame. I think we'll be ok though 👌

But if you thought there was a problem you obviously would go in the mens if you really needed to. Clearly though, the dad thinks his daughter should also go in the female toilets. In the same way boys should go in the males.

It’s really not the same thing though is it. The daughter would have to walk past men at the urinals.
Girls don’t use stand up exposed urinals.

Good idea. I think you definitely should check the coast is clear. Very wise indeed. I can't do anything about your shame though. That's yours to deal with. And your son, sadly.

No, the girl can use the girls toilet.

I wouldn't like you to be standing topless if I walked in either. Just because I have breasts, doesn't mean I want to see yours.

These threads always bring out women saying they don't want boys in women's toilets because they might be undressed or washing their knickers or something. I have literally never seen anyone doing these things in all of my years of using public toilets and I assume that someone who does probably isn't bothered about who seems them.

my boy uses the loo himself - he normally speaks to me so I can hear him (shouts - mummy there’s wee all over the floor in here most times) and make sure he’s ok - he’s super quick too. For some reason if he needs to do a number 2 he’ll ask for the disabled loos - but for a wee he will use the mens. He’s 7. He just doesn’t want to go to the women’s with me anymore and that’s ok. No issues with any weird men and most men actually let him in first - quite kind.

Bizarre. Who strips off in the public area of the ladies toilets? The cubicles are for anything that requires you to take your clothes off. I’d be very uncomfortable if I went into the ladies and someone was standing there with her tits out. Public decency still applies even if you’re in the ladies!

No issues with any weird men and most men actually let him in first - quite kind.

Tbh, I haven't found any difficulties or issues with men either, with this, anyway. They've gone back to check on son for me if I've asked, they've come out and said they think he needs me and let me go in, and warned others at the door that I'm in there, they've been absolutely fine when I've had to call out on a couple of occasions to say I need to come in. Plenty of men do actually realise it's difficult when you're on your own and you need to get through this rite of passage. I was a single parent, so I had to get through this process by myself.

And deal with it I will. All with the peace of mind that my sons are content, happy and I've done my very best to keep them safe 😊

I'm sure they'll thank you for not enabling their independence and keeping them close to you at whatever cost. 👍

The girl can use the girls toilet ….correct. The girls dad didn’t want her to see men at the urinals ( I’m guessing ) That would be very uncomfortable for her…quite right.
The boy could use the boys toilet alone but there are safeguarding issues if he is young, small etc. A boys dad could bring him into the mens toilet…quite right.
A boys mum legally could take him into a mens toilet…correct. A boys mum however is also vulnerable in a mens toilet even with her child present…quite so. A boys mum can legally take him into the woman's toilet as this space is deemed safer for both….correct.
A young girl may also be in the woman's toilets and feel uncomfortable sharing it with young boys….correct. A young girl may also be in a woman’s toilet sharing it with any male that feels more comfortable using that space…correct.

Solution
use Family toilets where present
Use the disabled toilets…it’s not against the law. Respecting any disabled people heading in the same direction and allowing them use of the space first. Including all those women rushing to the disabled toilet as there are never enough woman’s toilets anyway ( despite female architects campaigning for them at least since the 80s ) and there’s a huge que because women, their children and anyone who feels more comfortable in them is actually allowed to now use them.

Blimey I need a gin

If the cost is them potentially being sexual abused, then of course they'd thank me 👍 I don't force them in the ladies anyway, they're really not fussed - it's just a loo.

So women shouldn't be using the women's toilet if they have a young child with them?

How did we reach a stage where 'standing topless' in the ladies became a possibility

@depre

The last toilet thread I read had a poster objecting because she might be washing her period stained knickers in the sink.

I don't think you're very good at assessing actual risk.

Well we'll never really know for sure will we?

Not we. You.

Well presumably you won't know either unless you possess some kind of magic power that enables you to see into my past and what might have happened if I'd made different choices 🤔 If it's all the same to you, I'll stick with my gut instinct.

Well I have read this whole thread and decided I would be in favour of adult only bathrooms.

Now be fair, I'm sure that when her dear son is 21 the apron strings will be worn out!