To think boys shouldn’t go in to men’s toilets???

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This is hypothetical I seen another post about someone not letting their 9 year old use mens public bathrooms

what age do other people let their children go in to toilets on their own?

and how do you navigate them using the disabled toilets if not?? I’d be so worried in case someone actually disabled needed them

@QueefQueen80s I won't mind! Many mums get it. Don't get how some women are so unsupportive of other mothers.

Mum of 3 now adult ( 22 - 19 yrs )sons here.
I took boys with me into the ladies when they were young. We all used the toilet at the same time. My eldest was probably 10ish and still using ladies loos because I would also have to be around for the younger two. My older child was very small for his age and could not be expected to support / protect his two younger siblings ( huge anxiety issues ).
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We only occasionally went anywhere where this was necessary. ( only service stations really ) We re not at the shops that often and our large shopping centre has family rooms which the boys would use together with me outside. Or they used the disabled toilets with me outside. ( using disabled toilets is not against any law )

Once two younger ones were 9/10 ish then they used the mens toilets but all went at the same time.

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I should say, I have no experience of having one child to cope with and really don’t know what I’d do if I wanted to use the loo. Disabled toilet / family room where they can stand outside if the outside space is public….possibly? Ladies toilets tend to be in banks of cubicles so you wouldn’t be able to be that close to your dc.

I'm not interested in upsetting anyone, but yes, if I had to choose between causing 'upset' to girls and women in order to keep a vulnerable boy safe from predatory adults, then yes, it would be my responsibility to make this call. It's not about about showing more respect to males than females, but making the necessary, sometimes uneasy, judgement calls to keep all my children safe.

You seem to think your only options are risking them with perverts alone in the men's bathroom, or taking them into the women's. Why can't you go into the men's bathroom with them? That is the bathroom assigned to them. I'm sure men will understand that boy children are too young to use the bathroom on their own.

Or is it not actually about the children's safety at all but rather about you and your feelings and need to feel comfortable? You don't go into the men's bathroom because you would feel uncomfortable even though your child is safe and using the right bathroom.

I meant the parent cringe moments at the ridiculous levels of over protectiveness.

Did your 25 year old use the womens toilets at age 11?

I reckon exactly this.

I'm not sure adults are allowed to use opposite sex toilets? It's different for children, but for an adult to do it may be illegal?

You clearly haven't been following the trans debate then.

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If it wasn't about her child's safety surely she'd just send him in the mens alone?

Personally I wouldn't go in the mens. They generally stink and I wouldn't want to surprise a man with his dick in his hand. That's not going to happen the other way round in the ladies. My sons aren't going to walk in and see anything but females washing their hands, touching up their make up.

Teaching your child to be afraid / ashamed. He also has a penis? The men's toilet is the right place for those who have a penis.

My boys were 8. I was near the door.

@Jonei No, not really. But if you are not trans I would think it may be cause for complaint and an offence?

What ? There aren’t “many men” using the ladies loos, who wants to queue that long ?

You don’t see dicks in men’s toilets. You just don’t.

Well it's not a debate for this thread, but I will say, when born males self identify as trans, then what's the difference between them, and males? And more importantly, how are we supposed to know the difference...

I honestly can't remember. I assume I must have been of the same opinion as I am now though, so if it was a particularly dodgy loo, I'd have taken him in with me, or suggested he pee in a bush. It's all about circumstances though... this issue isn't black or white.

What is this obsession with men with their dicks?? If you're seeing dicks in the men's bathroom it's because you're looking for them. Men don't whip them out the second they enter the bathroom then walk around with them in their hands until they're ready to leave.

Go in, stick your child in the cubicle, don't look at dicks, then leave.

Just asked my partner. He said sometimes. Actually to quote him he said "last time I was at Spurs, 1 blokes was huge and I couldn't miss it. I said 'fair play, mate'" 🤣🤣

So what if dicks can be occasionally seen in the men's toilet? It is the place where dicks go to the toilet.

I'd prefer not to see them, thanks.

Unless you're 2ft tall and eye level with crotches, you'd have to actively look down and around to see a dick.

Maybe you shouldn't be allowed in the men's bathroom after all.

I don't know, can't really get my head round all that! Single unit toilets are what I'll be requesting from venues, if I get a chance. I have been followed into women's loos by my dance teacher, who was definitely not trans by the way, and had a girlfriend. I never feel safe in these communal places and totally avoid them when possible.