Page 33 | To wish people would stop saying 'Jesus' all the bloody time

Sortyourlifeout · 2023-04-25T19:19:11+00:00

I can't read a thread on here without someone saying "Jesus Christ" or "Jesus wept" or similar. I'm not a prude AT all and I have no issue with people swearing but as a Christian I find it highly offensive when people throw Jesus' name round in a negative way, without a thought for others' feelings and religions. Most people wouldn't dream of using words that were offensive to other religions so why is it acceptable when it's 'Jesus?'. This is a genuine message to ask people to PLEASE think before they post/speak.

pointythings · 28/04/2023 17:16

@Marshmallowblondie oh come off it. That's a complete whitewash of what happened. There's no doubt that Ireland's abortion laws were a contributing factor and that is quite enough. And yes, the law has now changed - but I followed the news around the referendum and there were an awful lot of religious people campaigning for a 'No', with all the usual lies about abortion and its effects.

LuckyPeonies · 28/04/2023 17:28

AwaaFaeHom · 28/04/2023 08:54

I know many very lovely religious people.

The flip side is, some of the very worst people I have ever met also claim to be Christian - pretty much exactly as your describe.

Sometimes religion can be a useful tool for awful people.

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I have met very nice religious people as well (I won’t limit this to christian as some have been of other faiths) and, in my experience, you don’t even realize they are religious until you’ve known them a while because they are quietly devout. The pharisaic are the problem, and give religion a bad name.

Marshmallowblondie · 28/04/2023 17:39

pointythings · 28/04/2023 17:16

@Marshmallowblondie oh come off it. That's a complete whitewash of what happened. There's no doubt that Ireland's abortion laws were a contributing factor and that is quite enough. And yes, the law has now changed - but I followed the news around the referendum and there were an awful lot of religious people campaigning for a 'No', with all the usual lies about abortion and its effects.

Yes, I agreed they were a contributory factor. I just explained it wasn't the whole story. Not a whitewash at all. The abortion laws stated it was legal to abort if a mother's life was in danger, but it didn't happen in her case and that was a tragedy. The laws did complicate treatment of course (because there can often be uncertainty about prognosis), but in her case the assessment, montitoring and clinical treatment was substandard as well.

bossonext · 28/04/2023 17:39

HeadbandOverMyEyes · 28/04/2023 16:16

Who the fuck is Phyllis, @SpeedSnap? Well, maybe mentioned in the video, I'm guessing, but I'm not spending over half an hour of my life watching a random video that I would never willingly inflict upon myself, at least, not without you giving me a really compelling reason to do so. If you want me to make the effort of watching, you can first make the effort of explaining why I should.

I'm not sure why you're so determined to go down this pointless abortion/obstetric route, though. Of course, I don't at all doubt that you're telling the truth when you say you don't want to talk about abortion. However, an uncharitable observer might note that: you brought up the subject of abortion, whether deliberately making a spurious accusation or simply making an honest mistake; when given a simple explanation of your factual error, you completely ignored the actual post that had been written, instead choosing to go off on a rant about being asked about your views on abortion (which you weren't); and when given a more detailed explanation of your error, you completely ignored that, too, and posted a long Christian propaganda video you expect people to watch, with a cryptic comment, and a claim about Irish obstetric procedures.

It's funny, how you keep bringing us back to this topic you don't want to talk about, and avoiding engagement with other posters' actual points.

Quit the evasive, broadcast-only "debate" tactics, and if you have an argument to make, make it.

Basically, some guy who belonged to the hate group focus on the family talking about how some woman called phylis converted him to catholicism after he was abusive to her and how he never managed to successfully pressure his father into joining his religion. Nothing to do with satanic abortion priests of whatever the fuck speedsnap is going on about now.

TBF, is Phyllis worked for FotF she probably was at least a little bit evil.

CurlewKate · 28/04/2023 17:55

HeadbandOverMyEyes · 28/04/2023 18:45

bossonext · 28/04/2023 17:39

Basically, some guy who belonged to the hate group focus on the family talking about how some woman called phylis converted him to catholicism after he was abusive to her and how he never managed to successfully pressure his father into joining his religion. Nothing to do with satanic abortion priests of whatever the fuck speedsnap is going on about now.

TBF, is Phyllis worked for FotF she probably was at least a little bit evil.

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Thank you for the summary — so, some random irrelevant thing dumped on the thread with no explanation as to why, but presented as though it's in some way related to the discussion, and with no attempt made to address any points made by other posters who are trying to engage in good faith? Sounds about right.

I can't believe Focus on the Family is still going! Well, I can, these things never die, unless maybe multiple leaders are found in compromising positions with young men, and even then it's more of a metamorphosis cum redemption arc. But yeah, that takes me back… must be at least twenty years ago, probably more, I went through a phase of being fascinated with American fundamentalist Christianity (probably what my psychiatrist would term a "special interest" — I could read about them for hours, in a sort of morbid fascination/anthropological way), and the FotF website was a rich vein of material

OMG12 · 28/04/2023 19:15

SpeedSnap · 28/04/2023 15:45

Some people really struggle with life then they meet evil people like Phyllis.

Irish hospitals were performing D&Cs after placenta abrupions and saving life back in the day.

Can’t be arsed to watch but no doubt it will involve some random, none specific mention of the corrupting forces of the “occult” with no mention of what that means but then random road to Damascus moment he was saved from the clutches of evil by Jesus Christ??? Am I warm?

The inverted pentagram is only used by a tiny minority in the world of the occult to symbolise matter over spiritualality most use it point up. Like Christian’s to symbolise man and spirit over matter. The cross is an ancient symbol predating Christianity either expressing rebirth or the elements. Largely why it’s depicted as a Roman cross rather than the usual low tau cross which is more likely to have been used to crucify Jesus

SerendipityJane · 28/04/2023 19:38

Largely why it’s depicted as a Roman cross rather than the usual low tau cross which is more likely to have been used to crucify Jesus

I believe the most accurate depiction of how the crucifixion may have looked is in Life Of Brian. Apart from the song. Which would of course have been in Aramaic.

Againstmachine · 28/04/2023 20:38

SerendipityJane · 28/04/2023 19:38

Largely why it’s depicted as a Roman cross rather than the usual low tau cross which is more likely to have been used to crucify Jesus

I believe the most accurate depiction of how the crucifixion may have looked is in Life Of Brian. Apart from the song. Which would of course have been in Aramaic.

Nah Jesus being son of god would have known it was best in English.

OMG12 · 28/04/2023 21:00

SerendipityJane · 28/04/2023 19:38

Largely why it’s depicted as a Roman cross rather than the usual low tau cross which is more likely to have been used to crucify Jesus

I believe the most accurate depiction of how the crucifixion may have looked is in Life Of Brian. Apart from the song. Which would of course have been in Aramaic.

Nah would definitely have been in Greek so the writers of the NT could write it down verbatim so nothing would be lost