To wish people would stop saying 'Jesus' all the bloody time

[Sortyourlifeout]

I can't read a thread on here without someone saying "Jesus Christ" or "Jesus wept" or similar.

I'm not a prude AT all and I have no issue with people swearing but as a Christian I find it highly offensive when people throw Jesus' name round in a negative way, without a thought for others' feelings and religions.

Most people wouldn't dream of using words that were offensive to other religions so why is it acceptable when it's 'Jesus?'.

This is a genuine message to ask people to PLEASE think before they post/speak.

Wow MNHQ, a comment comparing religion to unicorns was deleted? They are both absurd to many people but censorship exists I guess.

Well how dare they compare God to a mythical creature, referred to extensively in stories, and for which there is no proof of existance....

No wonder you think it's poppycock you have zero understanding and clearly never read the Bible.

The first miracle is at a wedding.

In revelation Jesus marries his church, the church is his bride.

A priest stands in for Jesus, so is male, hoe can a woman stand in and say "this is my body"?

There are plenty of nuns who take Holy orders.

If you have a woman stand in for Jesus it makes the marriage at the end a trans or lesbian marriage and you leave Christ out of his own church, it makes no sense.

If it's not your religion, stop imposing ignorant weird ideas on others who follow that religion.

This offence seems to be a very C of E passtime. Maybe instead of just not understanding it, you could look into why you find it offensive, what cultural meaning has been overlayed on the words, that hasn't for the Christians that don't find it offensive, and why.

If Catholic Christians are banding it about like there's no tomorrow and Jesusing and Christing all the day long, and CofE Christians find themselves wincing and feeling nauseous at the mention, why is this?

It's the same Jesus, no? Surely wherever he is up there/ at the right hand of god/ everywhere/ in the heart of each of his flock/ we aren't really sure/ all of the above, he'd either be offended or not when Susan gets to the front of the long queue at Aldi with extra sausages tin foil and there's a load of people turning up any minute at home for a BBQ, and realises she's forgotten her card and lets out an exasperated mention of his name?

Does Jesus mind what flavour of Christian she is? Arguably the Catholic kind are putting far more effort in, their masses are way longer and all that confessing is a bit of an undertaking. Maybe it balances itself out.

Also I just really love the bit where you asked everyone to please just think before they open their mouth to swear, for pity's sake, swiftly followed by the bit where, actually do you do do a swear now and again, but it just pops out. Kind of sums the whole thing up nicely really.

No wonder you think it's poppycock you have zero understanding and clearly never read the Bible.

Which one ?

And you think the above is a logical and sensible explanation?!

@SpeedSnap There's a massive difference between zero understanding and zero belief.

And you think the above is a logical and sensible explanation?!

It's a description of a man-made institution, with women very much the second sex. Of course, some denominations have pastors or ministers rather than 'priests', and some of these have had equality for over a century. I was brought up in the URC so the god I don't believe in isn't quite as misogynistic as some.

As a ChristianI find your interpretation of it wierd and ignorant

There were female disciples right at the start of the church and Jesus was clear about the equality of women in a time when women werent equal. The Christian Church was often only developed in areas in the early church due to women.

Leaving women out of the structure of the Church has nothing to do with Jesus and everything to do with patriarchy and men grabbing power

And given various churches now allow female ministers I'm assuming what you actually mean is you should be able to impose your wierd ignorant ideas from your section of Christianity on other sections of Christianity who feel differently. Its not just your religion.

What they said 👏

I quite like being part of a religion that allow you to swear in the name of your chosen deity without fear of execution, and will continue to do so. I would never use hard swear words, so my go-to is blasphemy.

I might try and bring back some good old fashioned Tudor blasphemy.

Drop your slice of toast on the kitchen floor, buttered side down? Don’t say ‘Oh fuck, say ‘GOD’S WOUNDS!’ or ‘GOD’S GUTS!’

You're amazing!

You can wish for anything you like, feel free!

Personaly I prefer saying Jesus H Christ.

You crack on with your religion. You have gay marriage, women priests etc. Did you delete bits of the Bible as Jesus taught about marriage in the Bible? You know at the end it tells you not to delete parts.

My religion was started and organised by Christ, yours I believe was started by a random man, who took 7 books out of the Bible didn't like certain bits he wanted to remove more and I gather he like Judas killed himself.

I don't expect anyone else to follow my religion other than my children as minors, one isn't into it as an adult, though belives in God, she has free will.

'Complaining others shouldn't use christian expletives and querying why they don't use terms from other religions as expletives in a country you presumably regard as a christian country. '

This. Culturally I was brought up in this mostly christian country, and here we says Jesus Christ! or jesus wept or for god's sake or whatever.

I don't know what the equivalent is in majority muslim or Jewish or Buddhist countries but I'm sure if I was brought up there i would say whatever they say or do

@Sortyourlifeout

Don't you think it's staggeringly hypocritical of you OP to expect people who don't believe in your religion to change their language so they don't offend you, when you do believe in your religion and have admitted that you 'take the lord's name in vain' without thinking and have done so elsewhere on MN?

Why are you holding atheists to higher standards than Christians when they don't believe and you do?

@SpeedSnap "There were female disciples right at the start of the church and Jesus was clear about the equality of women in a time when women werent equal."

References, please.

That's a whole lot of assumptions and judgements about other parts of Christianity and what I follow personally

You really come across as someone who doesnt like it that other people have different opinions to you about religion

In this you are right though, I will crack on with my religion because I wont be joining people who think it's okay to justify self righteous homophobia through translations of the bible made in the middle ages which are not wholly accurate

@SpeedSnap

You know at the end it tells you not to delete parts.

Do you, in 2023, live your life accordingly to every word of the bible then or are you a hypocrite with the audacity to chastise others for not doing so?

It was me who made that comment and my reference is the bible

Mary, Joanna, Suzanna where part of the larger group of disciples (as opposed to the 12 apostles)

😆😆😆 Thanks for the morning laugh.

@SpeedSnap

If it's not your religion, stop imposing ignorant weird ideas on others who follow that religion.

Hold on, can't you see the irony and hypocrisy in this statement / demand?

You're imposing your religious ideas on people who don't follow that religion, every time you say they shouldn't use phrases like 'Jesus Christ' or 'oh my god' or 'fucking hell'.

Why is it right and fair for religious people to impose their ideas on non believers but not ok for non believers to use language that has an entirely different meaning to them than it does to religious people?

I think that poster has forgotten

Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.

With all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love,

I can't say I always demonstrate them either but I also dont go jumping down the necks of atheists and using my religion to justify bigotry.

I have so much more respect for atheists and agnostics who question and study religion before making decisions than I do for people who blindly follow without questioning and assume superiority of thought for doing so.

You crack on with your religion. You have gay marriage, women priests etc. Did you delete bits of the Bible as Jesus taught about marriage in the Bible? You know at the end it tells you not to delete parts.

I quite agree. You'll need to tell me how you shun menstruating women (Leviticus 15:19-33). I tried, but kept on being told it was none of my fucking business. Clearly a lot of women are intent on preventing me following the word of our Lord. Which would have caused me immense offence if I hadn't realised that the word of God was mainly bollocks.

I also struggle to not mistreat the resident alien. And since the bible is quite pernickety about how you treat your slaves, since it doesn't condemn slavery at all.