To buy my white daughter a brown doll - thats OK right?

[Capaldifan94]

Just that really..

Ahh. Thank you.

My black daughter has got a white doll. It's a doll, don't worry about it.

No because black and other people of colour are used to paying more for there things from hair, to food, to toys. While white people aren’t: so manufacturers can and do change prices depending on where they’re selling the doll. Example - there used to be a barbie yonks ago in a saree. Whenever it was sold in mainstream British-UK based retailers the price was 9.99 (pound or dollar depending on location). Everywhere else the price was £30 everywhere even in India.

@NameChangeNumber359

Me too! She was called Mandy and I absolutely loved her.
I wonder if I had the same doll as you? I loved mine too! She was called Amanda Jane (but might be shortened to Mandy), very similar to this one:

Buying your little one a doll of a different race (assuming it's made in good faith and not as a caricature) is not appropriation. That doesn't even make any sense

Claiming that it might be seen that way, and that therefore your innocent child cannot play with a doll for fear of attracting criticism, is the equivalent of the stereotypical middle-aged businessman saying, 'You can't even smile at a woman these days without being accused of harassment'

I had a black doll back in the 70s. Her name was Louise. Im sure shes still in the attic. She was one of my favourites because she cried when you tipped her upside down.

Me too, there's a photo of 3 year old me holding her 😍

If someone is offended by a coloured/black brown Doll then they have bigger problems than racism.

Unfortunately the term cultural appropriation is used so loosely , it's hard to tell what is and what definitely isnt cultural appropriation.

This definitely isnt . Most things arent really

That's furiest ! 😂

@Capaldifan94 as pp said as long as you are not buying it to say 'look how aware we are ' then it fine * *

Another one here who had a black doll as a child! I had so many of the baby barbies (I can’t remember her name, Shelley or Kelly perhaps?) and loved that I had a fully diverse collection! There was a black one, white ones with all different hair and eye colours, an East Asian one and a Hispanic one. I even had a lone boy one!

Tell her it's preparing your child for their next sibling that will shut her up or you will be dialing 999

It's mad to think that it would be offensive, assuming it's just a doll and not a golliwog or something?!

Of course 🤷‍♀️

You're joking right?

Unfortunately I dont think she is. I was hoping this was a troll post .

Children don't notice the colour, my dd picked up a plastic figure at a parent and toddler group of a black man with an Afro and said daddy.
Daddy is bald with pale freckly skin.

So you live in a mixed-race family and city, full of people from all parts of the world, but you defer to your 'very old-fashioned' mother for what is and is not acceptable in terms of cultural politics?

Sounds legit.

So if your child does not have a a triangle on their head they can’t play with a Tinky Winky toy? Your Mother needs to stop reading the Daily Mail.

At one point all my white DD's dolls were Black because they were hand-me-downs and her cousins are all Black. And I'm too cheap to buy new when I can use old.

No one ever said anything and DD loved them. They were all passed on years ago.

I’m worried now as I gave my child a farm playset and we aren’t farmers.

I do think this is a bit more nuanced than some of the faux wide-eyed responses are claiming.

There is clearly nothing wrong with a young white child choosing and playing with a black doll.

But for an adult to choose a black doll for a white child is a bit more complicated, because, unfortunately, the dominance of white dolls means that choosing a non-white doll is a deliberate choice. So this means it becomes a question of why the adult has chosen a black doll.

Perhaps its simply because the doll in question has cooler accessories, in which case all good.

Or perhaps it might be because the adult wants to normalise diversity, which is at least well-intentioned.

But it could be because the adult just wants an easy way (consciously or unconsciously) to signal to other adults just how right-on they are as parents, while not concerning themselves in any way with the real issues surrounding diversity and racism. Which while not cultural appropriation, is something not completely dissimilar.

DD2 had one because when we were ELC one time I hadn't realised she'd picked one off the shelf (in her buggy) and had "kissed" it very wetly all over. I didn't really have the money to pay for it, but there wasn't a choice! She called her "Dodo" because that was her word for doll, and it stuck.

Several years down the line I was doing a nativity display for church and I called into her room to ask to borrow one of her (many) dolls for it. I put it in a bag without looking and when I got to church there was Dodo. Didn't think too much of it, till we started getting comments of how lovely it was to have her as baby Jesus. I think people thought it had been done deliberately, but it hadn't.

YANBU I'm not sure if you should refer to it as 'brown' though.

Out of interest ,If your daughter was black, would you buy her a white doll?